Tamri-El can be found in places. Given that Pelin-El means 'Star-Made Knight,' that would likely be Starry Heart.

I did tag it. At least I'm pretty sure I did.

Maybe "Umbriel" is subliminal messaging, that TES V will use the Umbra occluder middleware (and/or have Umbra the NPC and sword return)? :bowdown:

I hope they do. Not because graphics are that important to me, but I'm worried half the forum will die of coronaries if they don't. and I like you people.


Well, think of it. "Iel" either means one of four things: starry, heart, dawn, beauty, and could be a different tense or whatever. we don't know how aldmeris/Ehlonfex syntax works, but since keyes is a linguist he may decide to work it out. Now, realizing that Umbra was a sword steeped in the lore and magic of souls, becoming one with, then devouring, the soul of it's wielder as well as any slain by it. So "Umbr" likely means something to do with Undead, with "iel" meaning any of the four. Work it out. It could even mean "soul's beauty." Or, what I think is the most likely for this style: Night's beauty, as a counterpoint to Tamriel the living world,

I must say I'm surprised by the cover. It looks much better than I was expecting. Although, like others have said, "don't judge a book by its cover."

I meant tell me the whole ending, but I'll just wiki it.

Well, since you finished the earliest T&B book (and I highly reccomend the rest) you may or may not remember the tricks he'd pull with words. For example, two languages with simmilar-sounding words that mean vastly different things. Like how Amazon means "without briast" in ancient greek, but to the actual amazons it meant something else. Likely it means a differnt thing in Aldmeris and Ehlonfex.

PS: Don't use web lingo on me, Paws. See what happens when you do? You just confuse me hopelessly. And read them the long way, it's well worth it.

Ahaha, wow I never thought of that! I hope that's true.

So, in this case Ubri-El seems to be somthing like "Star Shadow"?
Or, according to UESP, "-El" is "A title used to show holy/important significance, and/or god-like status (Used in a name, like a compound word, except that the "El" is separated by a hyphen. The El can be used as a prefix, or a sufix, but it must always be hyphenated, and the "E" must always be a capital.)".

I prefer it would be Umbra'Keth.

shiny I'm going to lick the cover when I get it!

The building architecture does seem odd, or perhaps 'advanced' is a better term. It only has very vague similarities to the Dwemer. It honestly looks more space-age/futuristic than it does anything else - lots of saucer type shapes, especially the tower in the middle left, which looks almost exactly like the Seattle Space Needle.

The river and the water pouring off suggests it was previously an aquatic city, as do the odd vine-like plants rising up around the buildings (which look like they could work underwater). Perhaps a dreugh or Maomer city? I have to say, using the Maomer would be a good move for him given that there's no real lore there to conflict with, and their king is an undying wizard so the undead thing does have a place as well...

It looks vaguely like the Almalexia temple, wheras those strange arches look like Eldar stuff from 40k.

Never heard of Greg Keyes before now (don't know how, I'm a regular at the library) and now I can't put his throne & bone saga (I'm sorry, but I'm not a big fan of Star lols, so I gave those books a pass). He's a great author, worthy of the TES series. As long as he doesn't put it in any of the games (especially Morrowind) I think he'll do a fine job of writing it.

As if elves weren't bad enough, there's now space elves! (don't take this as me being serious)

Elves that look like giant prawns, who are stranded on nirn because of a freak navigation error... lol.

Elves are wonderful. Literally. Wonder-Full. Giant Prawns are NOT elves . .. giant prawns are disgusting. . . execpt when properly steamed and spiced, or steamed and served in a light bisque sauce.

Was little parody of District 9 (an excellent movie, btw).

Only one building reminds me of Almalexia, I'm still going with Maomer...

Indeed it was, alot better than I thought it would be.

The Maomer would be a good move.

If its of any interest, Umbriel is the name of a nome from the [censored] of the Lock, a story crawling with inuendo. He's a spirit who ventures into the Cavern of Spleen to pull out a vial of tears, and a sack of boo hoos, when a lock of the woman's hair is snipped off and she needs to feel remorse. Heh, Umbriel's returned with a vengence on the woman, it seems.

If they ever do a Halflife movie, that's what it needs to look like.

I hadn't thought about Maomer. And now that you guys have, I'm thinking abiut it and it seems increasingly good.

Here's the issue books have that games don't. When we were speculating about Oblivion, we could speculate about gameplay, graphics, story, any of that. So you wouldn't be constantly building one thing up higher and higher, you'd even it out. With the books, really we can only speculate on the story, so it's hard not to set the bar even more impossibly hi9gh than we usually do.

Gears of War novelisation hack?!

That's Karen Traviss you're speaking about! How very dare ye.

(Admittedly I haven't read those books of hers, but still... Ootrajous)

Sorry. I haven't read them, so I shouldn't judge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Traviss

Has anyone thought of an Elder scrolls book that is a make your own adventure.
'A Dark brotherhood agent visits you and tells you to kill someone.'
Do as he says-Turn to page 9
Run away-Turn to page 67
Say yes but report him to the watch-Turn to page 125

I say leave interactivity to the games, let the books be books. Choose your own adventure books really don't need to exist for TES since the games work that way only better.