Bethesda is making Novels for the Elder Scrolls!!!! Its a well known fact that the ADHD 13 year olds oblivion was targeted towards don't read books. Could this be a sign that bethesda are abnadoning the 13 year olds and coming back to us true fans that won't hold back the next game from achieving true depth, and lore!!!!Could this very well be a sign!!!!!

T&B is coming along great, finished the third book, "Blood Knight." He has a great grasp of how to design interesting, threatening monsters, is a master of suspense, and knows how to show when the line blurs between political machinations and fear for your own life.

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Well, I've read the entire Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone and loved it. So I now know as a fact he can write really good. The other question, that I don't know how to answer for myself before the book is out anyways, is "does he have a grasp of continuity in fiction he didn't create?" Now, I know he wrote some Star Wars books, but SW continuity is so beyond me at this point, I really only get the movies and the KotOR games. So, if anyone knows SW continuity and has read the keyes books for them, did he nail it good?

I've stopped caring about star wars anything for a while, so I'm sorry I can't say for certain. Star Wars isn't TES, though, that I remember. It may be bigger, but it ain't deeper. What you see is what you get. The books always followed their own little motif anyway.

I disagree with this. Certainly, there are times and places in Tamriel that are very, very different from the world in which we live, but going out of one's way to make something alien for the sake of being alien is just as bad as an unwillingness to go outside the familiar. Morrowind was the ONLY game in the series that was overtly alien, and even that had contrasts in communities like Ebonheart, Pelgiad, and Caldera. Arena, Daggerfall, Redguard, and Oblivion all had familiar fantasy tropes, and there's nothing wrong with that, so long as one isn't setting out to make a carbon copy of an existing setting.



As Lady Nerevar said, you're thinking of Artaeum (which is one of the Summersets, but not the main one). That would TOTALLY not fit the lore, IMO. More likely, in my opinion, is that the Necromancer's Moon is moving in on Nirn proper. Maybe there will be a God of Worms there; maybe not. But I strongly suspect the plot of this novel will explore the consequences of what the King of Worms accomplished in Daggerfall. Heck, it may be the result of the creation of a God/Realm/Planetoid by/for the KoW, followed by the cutting off of the head (the death of Mannimarco) in Oblivion, resulting in the God/Realm/Planetoid roving without any kind of direction.



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I checked out the book on Amazon online. The page did not feature a front cover of the book yet and it'll be released on November 24, 2009. Oh come on! Maybe there's a dispute between the author and the illustrator. *Shrugs* I know we should not ever judge anything by the front cover but you know how the front cover can have an impact just like clothes on a human can have an impact on others. How many of you are really considering buying it?

Also, there should be a few pages of the book for us to preview. Hmmm. I guess its nothing more than a waiting game for pictures and snippets to be released.

yeah, that's the whole thing. Even if the Star Wars books were good, I wouldn't be able to tell if he stuck to the continuity. That's why I even wonder that: how good is he at remaining true to established lore and continuity that is not of his making?

i am goin to buy the book just to see greg keyes perspective on the series and lore and how he interpret's it, i also think it would be a good read even if it doesn't fit in with the lore

from what I've saw in the article about the author it sounds like he can make a fine TES book.
Also. was there anything like a TES book before this?

Nope. Unless you count the online comic book associated with Redgard (including the excerpt printed in the manuel), or the Pocket Guides that came with Redgard and the Collectors Edition of Oblivion.

Oh I also heard you can learn alot about the lore in the Imperial Library.

I hope Keyes spent an extensive time at the Imperial Library. Damn fine website, it is.

The luxury of working in a library: I can make a genuine statement with my wallet. I've already ordered a copy for the library, and I get first crack at it before it's put into the computer system to be let out to the public. So that way, I can read it for free either way, only buying (and thus giving them my money) the book if I find it meeting the standards of the storylines of Daggerfall or Morrowind.

I've now read three of the four Kingdoms of Thorn & Bone novels.

Best things I've read in ages!

Seriously, if you've not read them, do so. I'm really looking forward to the Elder Scrolls novels if they exhibit even a fraction of the talent he shows for storytelling in The Briar King.

Do they have to do with TES and is it in the Imperial Library?
I read the The Pocket Guide, First Edition yesterday.

No, Keyes' series is his own creation. But after reading the first two novels in it, I have to agree that Bethesda chose well by getting Keyes for the novelizations. He's not some faceless hack who's in it for the money.

The dev Ted Peterson who wrote the PGEs and many of the other in-game TES books (he was one of the founders of TES) once said in this forum that he also approves of the choice of Keyes. Without getting my hopes up too high, I'll buy the novel when it comes out.

I can't wait to read them. I think I will have to buy the book the day it comes out! I hope he is a good author, for I have not read any of his work.

which books did he write?

nvm, I found it. He apparently wrote a few of the post-original trilogy novels, (which I unfortunately have not read). outside of the other new jedi order novels, there probably wasn't anything to really conflict with lore wise.

I can go with that. They definitely managed to drag me in, and it also averts several cliches (mostly in relation to the heroes of the story) while gloriously redefining several tropes like "our Dragons are better" and "our elves are different."


I recall that back when there were two book threads, this one and the lore forum one. Not only Tedders, but MK also said that they didn't mind the guy taking the reins for a while.

@Ravager: Ah, okay. Guess we have to wait then.

There was a floating land mass out by Vivec in Morrowind, so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility, especially if the Sloads are around.

When you think about it, there really isn't a problem. I thought there was and I figured out why. Do you know how I discovered the books? Yu know the picture links on IGN? I saw one that said "Elder Scrolls V" on it, then realized it led to an article called "No elder scrolls?" regarding an interview with Pete. In that article they mentioned the books and through some accident of the Pavlovian persuasion I was against the books. Now that we all basically know Bethesda likes us and like making TES so will eventually continue the series as soon as they have something awesome to show us I really can look at it objectively. Yes it's a small blurb, and yes it sounds odd, but knowing Keyes theres way more to it than that.

The first (best) PGE was written by MK and Kurt Kuhlmann (who is overseeing Keyes).

With so little competition it isn't much to say it's the best. They're both silly.

That's reassuring. Here I thought Bethesda bought the guy and just threw some facts his way.

I hope one of the books takes place in Varrdenfell, following a Native Dunmer!!!!!