[Rachyroo]

For those that would like to continue the discussion. Mind the usual forum rules, please.

http://www.gamesas.com/eng/news/pressrelease_042709-3.html

Bethesda Softworks?, a ZeniMax? Media company, and Del Rey, an imprint of Ballantine Books at the Random House Publishing Group, are pleased to announce that Del Rey Books will publish two novels based on Bethesda Softworks' award-winning, high-fantasy video game series, The Elder Scrolls?. The best-selling game series is known for giving the player the ability to choose how their story will play out and unfold, and for the incredible amount of lore and depth found in these rich game worlds. Penned by New York Times bestselling author Greg Keyes, the novels will be all-new, original stories based in The Elder Scrolls universe. The first novel ? The Infernal City ? is set to be published in Fall 2009. Among Keyes' prior works are the Age of Unreason tetrology (for which he won the prestigious "Le Grand Prix de l'Imaginaire" award), and three New York Times bestselling Star Wars novels in the New Jedi Order series.

"We've been big fans of Greg's work for a long time, and we're thrilled he agreed to bring his talents to The Elder Scrolls," said Pete Hines, vice president of public relations and marketing for Bethesda Softworks. "We see these books as a natural extension of the franchise and think fans will love the stories and characters Greg has created."

The Infernal City is set after the events of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?, the latest game in the video game series, and finds the citizens of Tamriel once again facing an uncertain future. Floating high above the land is a strange and mysterious city that is casting a horrifying shadow ? wherever it falls, people die and rise again as undead. It is up to an unlikely duo ? a seventeen-year-old girl named Annaig and the Emperor's young son, Prince Attrebus ? to rescue the kingdom from doom. Annaig and Attrebus' quest will take them through the Elder Scrolls universe and their adventure is sure to add to the series' already magnificent

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The thing is that it would only take a coupe days for him to read the relevant lore, you don't have to have been around the forum for years or played all the games to know the basics (or even the bigger things). Hopefully he's competent enough to have familiarized himself with the setting in which he's working, something that's not that hard to do - if I were him I would have registered a false screenname and asked questions over in the Lore Forum, that way he'd know that he was heading in the right direction (then again who knows, maybe was smart and did just that :ninja: )...

As I mentioned before, until the book comes out it would seem we have no way of knowing how much of TES lore he actually knows. So looks like we need to wait.

I'm getting it too.

Yes, there are many sites that go completely offline when updating, so that could be a possibility. Hopefully it is something of that nature.

We can hope.

[teeny]

As I mentioned before, until the book comes out it would seem we have no way of knowing how much of TES lore he actually knows. So looks like we need to wait.

As I posted in the last thread, I got an early copy of the book about two weeks back. Keyes states that Pete Hines, Todd Howard and other people deserve acknowledgement for helping him out with the book. He also credits Imperial-Library.Info (!!) for being an "invaluable resource".
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a photo of that page :confused:

Apart from that, I think it's pretty close to lore - It's definitly no general fantasy stuff that uses a term like "Weye", "Dunmer" or "Azura" here and there. I'd say that it's a true and pretty cool Elder Scrolls book which was a lot of fun to read. And no, I'm not being paid for saying this :rolleyes:

[Kelly John]

I think a cool thing the Dev's should add into the next game could be like a page of this book, as if it were ripped out but with the actual book being lost. That way they can still make their money selling the real book in real life. And maybe have some extra notes added to the ripped out page in-game as if someone (eg. a wood elf) had written in it. So when you read the actual book (in real life) and read what the wood elf had inserted (in-game), it would give away more to the story.

And then bethesda can credit me by using my khajiit name on an in-game character, WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!

[Alisia Lisha]

As I posted in the last thread, I got an early copy of the book about two weeks back. Keyes states that Pete Hines, Todd Howard and other people deserve acknowledgement for helping him out with the book. He also credits Imperial-Library.Info (!!) for being an "invaluable resource".
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a photo of that page :confused:

How were you able to get an early copy?

[Laura]

How were you able to get an early copy?

Something about getting a reviewer's/previewer's copy off of Ebay.

[GLOW...]

Apart from that, I think it's pretty close to lore - It's definitly no general fantasy stuff that uses a term like "Weye", "Dunmer" or "Azura" here and there. I'd say that it's a true and pretty cool Elder Scrolls book which was a lot of fun to read. And no, I'm not being paid for saying this :rolleyes:

hm, as a control, what did you think of Oblivion's handling of lore?

[Mario Alcantar]

As I posted in the last thread, I got an early copy of the book about two weeks back. Keyes states that Pete Hines, Todd Howard and other people deserve acknowledgement for helping him out with the book. He also credits Imperial-Library.Info (!!) for being an "invaluable resource".
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a photo of that page :confused:

Apart from that, I think it's pretty close to lore - It's definitly no general fantasy stuff that uses a term like "Weye", "Dunmer" or "Azura" here and there. I'd say that it's a true and pretty cool Elder Scrolls book which was a lot of fun to read. And no, I'm not being paid for saying this :rolleyes:

I can't see how the acknowledgement page would be off-limits, but just to be safe maybe contact Gstaff?

PS: Good idea Lady. Of course, since origins are colored by later iterations, we don'y know that something in this book shifts the perspective to make Oblivion more... normal.

[Ludivine Poussineau]

hm, as a control, what did you think of Oblivion's handling of lore?

Hmm. I guess we'll have to read it for ourselves before we can really make any judgements. I'm not saying you're an idiot, Grappa, but second hand opinions are hard to qualify.

[Jaylene Brower]

I don't really get what this is about :mellow:

I have a feeling that I'd disqualify myself from having a serious oppinion about any matter regarding Elder Scrolls for some people in case I don't think that the only game with true ES lore is Morrowind and everything after it just butcheres the lore...

Apart from that, the book states that the Infernal City thing is happening 45 years after Oblivion and Shivering Isles and Elder Scrolls will take place 155 years after the book ... Just in case some people are interested ...

[Karl harris]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a photo of that page :confused:

I don't think posting a single photo of the book, let alone of the acknowledgments, would be bad - but better be safe than sorry.

Also, I don't know what posting a picture would add to this, it's not like you just registered here and we have reasons to suspect you.

[Chavala]

I don't really get what this is about :mellow:

I have a feeling that I'd disqualify myself from having a serious oppinion about any matter regarding Elder Scrolls for some people in case I don't think that the only game with true ES lore is Morrowind and everything after it just butcheres the lore...

Apart from that, the book states that the Infernal City thing is happening 45 years after Oblivion and Shivering Isles and Elder Scrolls will take place 155 years after the book ... Just in case some people are interested ...

Saywhat?

[Avril Louise]

I don't really get what this is about :mellow:

I have a feeling that I'd disqualify myself from having a serious oppinion about any matter regarding Elder Scrolls for some people in case I don't think that the only game with true ES lore is Morrowind and everything after it just butcheres the lore...

Apart from that, the book states that the Infernal City thing is happening 45 years after Oblivion and Shivering Isles and Elder Scrolls will take place 155 years after the book ... Just in case some people are interested ...

Hmm...

Well, it's all a matter of taste, really as far as that goes, hell I even have ways to have it make sense. But as for the 155 years, well I suppose we'll see what they do with it.

[Rachel Tyson]

155 years? ....perhaps the 2 novels will set the scene for a new kalpa?
...interesting.
(Currently reading the Briar King so I can see Keyes being a great author to handle large leaps in time/ setting up & elaborating on lore)

[Kayleigh Williams]

Well, 45 years to the book, 155 years to the game from there, that's an even 200. I like that for one reason only: Whatever "Empire" Attrebus is the favorite son of will likely be at the point of the Septims in Arena or Daggerfall. That means it's all on the skill of the game's dev team and writers, with very few variables outside that. So it's either great or terrible. or just okay.

[kirsty joanne hines]

Sorry, I don't believe some random poster that they have the book already. *shrug* You could be telling the truth, but who knows. I could say that I'm Winnie-the-Pooh but that doesn't make it true (and as far as I know, Pooh wasn't a poet anyway).

[TIhIsmc L Griot]

Saywhat?

I second this saywhat. So they have released info about the next title with the novel?

Sorry, I don't believe some random poster that they have the book already. *shrug* You could be telling the truth, but who knows. I could say that I'm Winnie-the-Pooh but that doesn't make it true (and as far as I know, Pooh wasn't a poet anyway).

Yes, well, Random-Internet-Poster aside, he's not the only one who's claimed to have gotten an editorial copy from ebay. Further, he's inquired into posting book material on here which would certainly qualify as photographic proof of ownership. Sure, it could all be lies, but there's enough leeway here to make a cautions assumption that the truth is being told.

[sas]

Yo Grappa, could you pos a picture of yourself holding the book up at various angles? No need to show your face or anything.

[matt]

I don't really get what this is about :mellow:

I have a feeling that I'd disqualify myself from having a serious oppinion about any matter regarding Elder Scrolls for some people in case I don't think that the only game with true ES lore is Morrowind and everything after it just butcheres the lore...

Apart from that, the book states that the Infernal City thing is happening 45 years after Oblivion and Shivering Isles and Elder Scrolls will take place 155 years after the book ... Just in case some people are interested ...

Please clarify.

[james kite]

Please clarify.

I'm unsure what to think...

[Louise Andrew]

I think a cool thing the Dev's should add into the next game could be like a page of this book, as if it were ripped out but with the actual book being lost. That way they can still make their money selling the real book in real life. And maybe have some extra notes added to the ripped out page in-game as if someone (eg. a wood elf) had written in it. So when you read the actual book (in real life) and read what the wood elf had inserted (in-game), it would give away more to the story.

And then bethesda can credit me by using my khajiit name on an in-game character, WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!

not a bad idea

I don't really get what this is about :mellow:

I have a feeling that I'd disqualify myself from having a serious oppinion about any matter regarding Elder Scrolls for some people in case I don't think that the only game with true ES lore is Morrowind and everything after it just butcheres the lore...

Apart from that, the book states that the Infernal City thing is happening 45 years after Oblivion and Shivering Isles and Elder Scrolls will take place 155 years after the book ... Just in case some people are interested ...

um what?

[Emma-Jane Merrin]

I think he might mean Elder Scrolls V?

[Becky Palmer]

Sorry, I don't believe some random poster that they have the book already. *shrug* You could be telling the truth, but who knows. I could say that I'm Winnie-the-Pooh but that doesn't make it true (and as far as I know, Pooh wasn't a poet anyway).

No one is asking us to bet money or health on GH's claim, and while I don't suggest you simply assume he's telling the truth it would be strange for a long time member of the forums to just make this up. It's also common for bookstores to get advanced copies (for personal use, not for commercial sale) so it certainly wouldn't be strange for someone to have one of these. And if he's making it all up what has he really mislead us about, the acknowledgments and a few vague facts?

If he's just registered here I'd be skeptical, and if he was releasing seemingly juicy facts about the story I'd be suspicious, but neither of these is true.

[Milad Hajipour]

No one is asking us to bet money or health on GH's claim, and while I don't suggest you simply assume he's telling the truth it would be strange for a long time member of the forums to just make this up. It's also common for bookstores to get advanced copies (for personal use, not for commercial sale) so it certainly wouldn't be strange for someone to have one of these. And if he's making it all up what has he really mislead us about, the acknowledgments and a few vague facts?

If he's just registered here I'd be skeptical, and if he was releasing seemingly juicy facts about the story I'd be suspicious, but neither of these is true.

Okay, the book stuff aside (because I know he could be telling truth/is telling the truth), what about the game hints? I'm surprised you guys haven't edited that part out. Since you haven't, it leads me to believe that it isn't true. Bethesda is always secretive about their games. I doubt they'd let a random member give out information.

[ImmaTakeYour]

If he is telling the truth, it's strange to think that our player characters/RP characters will be long dead by the time of TES V, except for the mer. I know we can always roll up new characters, but those of us who have roleplayed in the past have characters that we kept alive during the events of "Morrowind" and "Oblivion". :shrug:

The timeline sounds reasonable overall. While I wouldn't say Oblivion "butchered" the lore, there are a number of issues with it. For just one example, the Imperial Cult is bland compared to what I've heard Daggerfall was like -- now you have a single model of Gothic cathedral that's supposed to suffice for all the Nine, instead of having a Dibellan temple, for one.

[Taylor Bakos]

The Infernal City is set after the events of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?, the latest game in the video game series, and finds the citizens of Tamriel once again facing an uncertain future. Floating high above the land is a strange and mysterious city that is casting a horrifying shadow ? wherever it falls, people die and rise again as undead. It is up to an unlikely duo ? a seventeen-year-old girl named Annaig and the Emperor's young son, Prince Attrebus

omg da lich king is coming with naxxramas! RUN