New Game CTD : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:12 pm

EDIT - OK. I solved it somehow. There was apparently a problem with the menu folder.

It's been a while since I last played Oblivion. After a fresh install with FCOM and several dozen other mods I used to play with without problems, I can't start a new game. The loading screen comes up for a second then it crashes. I've used every one of these mods together before, and I can't recall a crash like this.

I'd appreciate any help finding the problem. I'm sure someone will spot something I've missed. I was thinking it might have something to do with the interface mods, but I haven't had any luck messing with them...

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0A  BathingMod_Base.esm0B  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  ScreenEffects.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]18  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]++  Symphony of Violence.esp19  AmbientTownSounds.esp1A  MIS Low Wind.esp1B  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp1C  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]1D  LightsOut.esp1E  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1F  7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp20  Chapel Tithe.esp21  P1DseeYouSleep.esp22  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]23  FF_Real_Thirst.esp24  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]25  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]26  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]27  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp28  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]29  ScreenControls.esp2A  Streamline 3.1.esp2B  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]2C  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9]2D  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]2E  WayshrineMapMarkers.esp2F  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]32  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp33  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp34  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]37  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]38  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]39  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoWyverns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]45  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]49  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]4A  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]4B  Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp4C  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]4D  za_bankmod.esp4E  Knights.esp4F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]50  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]51  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.4]52  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]53  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]54  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]55  xulTheHeath.esp56  XulEntiusGorge.esp57  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]58  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]59  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]5B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]5C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]5E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]5F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]60  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]61  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]62  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]63  xulPantherRiver.esp64  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]65  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]66  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]67  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]68  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]69  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6A  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6B  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6C  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]6D  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]6E  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6F  Cliff_RiskyInnBeds.esp70  Cliff_CountyNames.esp  [Version 1.1]71  Cliff's Daggerfall Uriel Septim and Ocato.esp72  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.2.1]73  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp74  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]75  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp76  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]77  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp78  BathingMod_Soap.esp79  BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp7A  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp7B  OWE&P.esp7C  RealisticFatigue.esp7D  RealisticHealth.esp7E  RealisticForceMedium.esp7F  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp80  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]81  Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp  [Version 3.1]82  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp83  RenGuardOverhaul.esp84  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 5]85  kuerteeNPCsYield.esp86  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp  [Version 4]87  Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp88  Oblivion XP.esp**  Dark Dungeons -  SI.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp89  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV3.esp8A  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp8B  Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp8C  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]8D  MiniMap.esp++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp8E  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]8F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]90  Bashed Patch, 0.esp91  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp92  OBGE - Liquid Water Basic.esp

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:19 am

It's been a while since I last played Oblivion. After a fresh install with FCOM and several dozen other mods I used to play with without problems, I can't start a new game. The loading screen comes up for a second then it crashes. I've used every one of these mods together before, and I can't recall a crash like this.

I'd appreciate any help finding the problem. I'm sure someone will spot something I've missed. I was thinking it might have something to do with the interface mods, but I haven't had any luck messing with them...

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0A  BathingMod_Base.esm0B  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  ScreenEffects.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]18  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]++  Symphony of Violence.esp19  AmbientTownSounds.esp1A  MIS Low Wind.esp1B  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp1C  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]1D  LightsOut.esp1E  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1F  7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp20  Chapel Tithe.esp21  P1DseeYouSleep.esp22  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]23  FF_Real_Thirst.esp24  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]25  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]26  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]27  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp28  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]29  ScreenControls.esp2A  Streamline 3.1.esp2B  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]2C  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9]2D  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]2E  WayshrineMapMarkers.esp2F  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]32  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp33  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp34  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]37  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]38  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]39  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoWyverns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]45  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]49  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]4A  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]4B  Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp4C  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]4D  za_bankmod.esp4E  Knights.esp4F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]50  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]51  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.4]52  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]53  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]54  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]55  xulTheHeath.esp56  XulEntiusGorge.esp57  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]58  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]59  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]5B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]5C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]5E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]5F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]60  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]61  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]62  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]63  xulPantherRiver.esp64  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]65  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]66  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]67  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]68  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]69  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6A  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6B  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6C  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]6D  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]6E  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6F  Cliff_RiskyInnBeds.esp70  Cliff_CountyNames.esp  [Version 1.1]71  Cliff's Daggerfall Uriel Septim and Ocato.esp72  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.2.1]73  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp74  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]75  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp76  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]77  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp78  BathingMod_Soap.esp79  BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp7A  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp7B  OWE&P.esp7C  RealisticFatigue.esp7D  RealisticHealth.esp7E  RealisticForceMedium.esp7F  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp80  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]81  Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp  [Version 3.1]82  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp83  RenGuardOverhaul.esp84  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 5]85  kuerteeNPCsYield.esp86  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp  [Version 4]87  Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp88  Oblivion XP.esp**  Dark Dungeons -  SI.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp89  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV3.esp8A  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp8B  Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp8C  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]8D  MiniMap.esp++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp8E  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]8F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]90  Bashed Patch, 0.esp91  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp92  OBGE - Liquid Water Basic.esp

Have you tried renaming your Configuration Settings (your ini file, it is named Oblivion) in Document\My Games\Oblivion to Backup to force Oblivion to generate a new one on startup? Have you applied the proper ini tweaks in Wrye Bash for the "User Interface" mods and Liquid Water?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 pm

OK. I solved it somehow. There was apparently a problem with the menu folder.