hello friends well for turn arounds of the life i lost al my oblivion data :brokencomputer: , NOW i want to start a new game but i need some motivation i meant something that brings aventure role playing epic, well last time i played oblivion i have this mod list


Oblivion.esm

Windfall.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm
. Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
. Note: May have a problem with Shivering Isles due to changed FormIDs causing a script to be written into cell data by mistake.
. Note: A fixed edition (for Shivering Isles ONLY! is avaliable here: http://tinyurl.com/kmgaxd

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate,C.Light,C.Owner,Delev,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats,Relations}} and remove the C.Water tag.

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp
. Note: May cause CTDs when used with Deadly Reflex. Unverified.

300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp
. Note: Do NOT use with 300_Lore Dialogue.esp

Days&Months.esp

kuerteeSittableRocks.esp

Packhorses v1.esp

TryBeforeYouBuy.esp

Crowded Roads 15.esp

Choices and Consequences.esp
. Note: Make sure you have the latest version.

C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner,Relations}}

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2.esp
. Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug.

Quick Clothes and Spells.esp
. Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug.

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

CSR - Fine Iron.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

CSR - Golden Saint.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

M&BAxes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent}}
. Note: make sure to load an overhaul or something after or manually rename the cells that this edits.

MandBSwords.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent}}
. Note: make sure to load an overhaul or something after or manually rename the cells that this edits.

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp
. Note: Requires Shivering Isles expansion.

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Invent}}

Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Factions}}

Kragenir's Death Quest.esp

KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp

Nascosto Isles 3.esp

SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp

thievery.esp

Villages1.1.esp

Windfall.esp

Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

BrewHouse.esp
. Note: Use v1.5 or later to avoid extensive compatibility issues.

ElsweyrAnequina.esp
. Note: Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).

road+bridges.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenLeafEverglade.esp

LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
. Note: Make sure version is 1.6.2 or later.

BrewHouse-LostCoast patch.esp

xulbravilbarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
. Note: Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

bartholm.esp

Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
. Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.

Roleplaying Dialogues.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealSleepExtended.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Graphics}}

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_COBL.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_UnlockSpells.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp
. Note: Requires Supreme Magicka.
. Note: Only use if placing L.A.M.E. files before Supreme Magika to keep SM spell stats.
. Note: Always place this file after Supreme Magika.

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP.

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
. Note: See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues.

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

Cobl Races.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH: Eyes, Hair, R.Relations, Voice-M, Voice-F}}

Cobl Races TNR.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}} and deactivate.
. Note: Requires the Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 files installed.

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}} and deactivate.
. Note: Requires the Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 files installed.

bgBalancingEVCore.esp
. Note: bgBalancingNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp is required if Shivering Isles not installed.

bgMagicEV.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Delev,Relev}} if you are running more than one magic overhaul and want to use LAME spell names.
. Note: Move Supreme Magica after LAME if you want Supreme Magica spell stats.

bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp

bgMagicItemSigil.esp

bgMagicEVStartspells.esp

bgMagicBonus.esp

bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp

bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp

bgMagicAlchemy.esp

bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp

bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp
. Note: Requires LAME and Shivering Isles.

bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp
. Note: Requires LAME and Shivering Isles.

bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-F,Body-M,Eyes,Hair,R.Relations}}

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

BadderFireFX.esp

BadderFrostFX.esp

BadderShockFX.esp

bgMagicEVShader.esp

bgMagicLightningbolt.esp

NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
. Note: Requires New Roads+Bridges.
. Note: Use only one road record file. Recommend importing into Bashed Patch.

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp
. Note: Make sure it is deactivated. Must be merged into Bashed Patch

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

well thats my old list, i also already have installed better cities kragenir, midas magic, ash odd jobs, blades mod, mmm

anyway many other, now i looking for something new i always have listened about oscuro oblivion, that make the game harder, add new item somethign else??what about Martigens Monster Mod ? its good?? only add monsters? its the 3.1 the last version??

mmm actullay new landscapes like anequina barthlom, windfall will also like me, a new levellin sistem i used reallistic levelling, a GOOD mod for EATING??
greetings to everyone im actually researching mods!!

Well looking at that load order, uhhh... you do know that Cobl Races pretty much is race balancing project... except for the fact that it's outdated, and maybe has an option to not make gameplay changes. Also having Shivering Isles, LAME, and RBP without http://www.moddb.com/mods/integration-the-stranded-light? Blasphemy!

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1072579-the-any-mods-list-of-topics/page__p__15593408__fromsearch__1&#entry15593408

So might the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1010109

The first one because it has a leveling category, and the second one because it has an immersion list

for landscapes you might consider getting http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1076009-relzthe-unique-landscapes-project/page__hl__unique%20landscapes

For http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1082120-relz-oscuros-oblivion-overhaul-133/page__st__20__p__15798263__hl__oscuro__fromsearch__1&#entry15798263 and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084290-relzmartsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/ check their individual topics... which just linked to.

That load order is a mess. You've got OOO and Fran's without FCOM, both Cobl races and RBP at the same time, the Cobl plugin for MMM without MMM, three conflicting water mods... RTFM.

Anyway, play through The Ayleid Steps if you haven't already. Try a new game with TIE instead of OOO and Fran's. Definitely get MMM if you want to keep OOO, or a full FCOM install if you want to keep Fran's too.

Remove Hrmmmn's Script Optimization mod and fix your load order.

hello thanks for the answer yes that load order was old XDD its a little complicated mmm any suggestion about eating mods??

EDIT: warcry its recommendable??

thanks diviner

im currently downloading mmm3.7 francescomod 4.5 and better cities , mmm really achieve all that promises??XDD

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Read this page about downloading mods: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/downloadmods. Look under the "Game Tweaks" section. One of the Guide's listed there should be "Delte's Thread of Immersion Mods." That should help with eating, drinking, sneaking, fatiguing, etc.

well downloading OOO 1.33 its really heavy 400 mb any suggestions for the dark brotherhood fighters guild mage guild?

See my PM.

Edit: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14560 is a good mod for that, and it is being worked on again too...or, at least, it is supported actively now.

Could you post your load order with http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/postlo please? What type of immersion mods are you looking for? I can recommend a few.... If you are not using Wrye Bash, you need to get rid of the COBL Merge late mod because you do not have a bashed patch for the mod to be merged into.

well actually im installing OOO after that frans levelled and then MMMM finally fcom right?

well im looking for a mod to let me manage or work in mining farming wines companies

Refer to my guide for help installing FCOM if you are using BAIN. (See my sig.) Otherwise, check out the http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcominstall.html. Your installation order is wrong, kind of...

Edit: Someone recently released a mining mod: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30682. This sounds even cooler: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29126. Then again, I have absolutely ZERO interest in mining.


Recommended install order...

View PostShikishima, on Feb 21 2010, 03:09 PM, said:
For compatibility reasons with the MMM BSA it's now important in which order some mods are installed:
Recommended order by Shikishima and Corepc:

Unofficial Oblivion Patch
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch(if applicable)
DLC's + Patches(if applicable)
Francesco's 4.5
OOO version 1.33 full patched to OOO 1.34 beta5
Oblivion WarCry patched to 1.085b
Bob's Armory 1.1
Armamentarium and Armamentarium Artifacts(optional)
Martigen's Monster Mod 3.7b3
COBL(optional)
COBL Races(optional)
FCOM 9.9 beta + supported add-ons(add-ons optional)
Body Replacement mods (Roberts, Exnem. EVE etc)(optional)
Texture replacers(optional)

To complete FCOM, install the UFCOM files, overwriting where prompted.

this is my load order so far

Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 755 $, $Date: 2010-03-24 09:30:30 -0700 (Wed, 24 Mar 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}}

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Not compatible with 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.

DLCThievesDen.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Relev}}

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp

OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} and remove the C.Climate tag

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats}}

Harvest [Flora].esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

OOO-Level_Slow.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound}}

when i try to install MMM with this guide http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=995334 well it activates ALL MMM .esp files is that right??

When installing Fran's you need to choose separate files. In other words, there should not be a Fran "Optional Files" plugin in your load order. Get rid of OOO level slow. Use Progress instead. Also, you are not supposed to install Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/index goes step-by-step through the entire process of installing Oblivion and then FCOM (or any other setup.) I suggest you read through it to make sure you are not missing any requirements. You can ignore the warnings about only getting manual versions and avoiding OMODs of course, since you are using OBMM and not BAIN. Also, make sure you are using the latest version of Harvest Flora, which is not the version bundled in OOO. You can find the links to all of the mods I have mentioned in that guide.

Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 755 $, $Date: 2010-03-24 09:30:30 -0700 (Wed, 24 Mar 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}}

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

Mart's Monster Mod.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

FCOM_Convergence.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Factions,Relations,Relev}}

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
. Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

FCOM_Francescos.esp
. Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
. Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.
. Requires: Francesco's supplementary addon package.

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
. Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Not compatible with 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.

DLCThievesDen.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp
. Requires: 'Cobl Glue.esp' and 'OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp'.
. Note: Do not use COBL and Tamerielic Ingredients at the same time.

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
. Requires: 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
. Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp

FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp
. Note: Use only one: Reduced, SlightlyReduced or Stronger.

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats}}

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp
. Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}

OOO-WaterFish.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} and remove the C.Climate tag

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats}}

FCOM_Knights.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Relev}}
. Requires: DLC 'Knights.esp'.

Harvest [Flora].esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound}}

the cobl fcom is ther because i want to install cobl : D well right now i have a question the bsa file from MMM3.7 its called mmm only i know that i shoul change the name right? i should change it to "FCOM_Convergence_Mart's Monster Mod"??

Use Wrye Bash to http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/postlo. It gives more information, and it is more compact. Rename the MMM BSA "DLCShiveringIsles - MMM.bsa." Where is your bashed patch?

active mods
? 00 Oblivion.esm

? 01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

? 02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

? 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

? 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

? 05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

? 07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

? 08 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

? 09 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

? 0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp

? 0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

? 0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

? 0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

? 0E Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

? 0F Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

? 10 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 11 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 13 DLCHorseArmor.esp

? 14 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 15 DLCOrrery.esp

? 16 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

? 17 DLCVileLair.esp

? 18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

? 1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 1B DLCSpellTomes.esp

? 1C DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 1D DLCThievesDen.esp

? 1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 1F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 20 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

? 21 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

? 22 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

? ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 23 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

? 24 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 25 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

? 26 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

? 27 OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]

? 28 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 29 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 2A FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 2B FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 2C FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 2D Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2E Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 30 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 32 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 33 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 34 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 35 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 36 MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]

? 37 DLCFrostcrag.esp

? 38 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 39 Knights.esp

? 3A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

? 3B FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 3C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 3D Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 3E Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 3F Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 40 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

? 41 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

? ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]

? 42 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]

? 43 Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

? 44 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

? ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
i trey tehg ame for few minutes all was all right for the moment i saw the changes on the imperial guards aarmours
Leveled Lists


Delevelers/Relevelers
? Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [ADR]

? Mart's Monster Mod.esm [ADR]

? FCOM_Convergence.esm [ADR]

? Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR]

? Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_Francescos.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [ADR]

? DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR]

? DLCSpellTomes.esp [AR]

? DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR]

? OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [AD]

? FCOM_Cobl.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [ADR]

? Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_Convergence.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_RealSwords.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [ADR]

? FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [ADR]

? MMM-Cobl.esp [AD]

? Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR]

? FCOM_Knights.esp [ADR]

? Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [ADR]
RENAME MMM.bsa like you said

Remove the MMM Extra Wounding plugin. That is what the FCOM Durability and Damage plugin does. That MMM module is not compatible with FCOM. Remove the Francesco's day length rescale plugin. Use the tweak in the bashed patch to set the scale to 12 (or something close to it.) You can also use the console to set timescale to 12 in-game. If you go the console route, then mods cannot be used to change the timescale, so you may prefer using the Bashed Patch tweak. Also, post your load order by the instructions I linked. That is not just your load order. Right-click on the "File" tab, choose "List mods" (which copies the list for you) and paste the list here.

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
08 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
09 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
10 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
13 DLCHorseArmor.esp
14 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
15 DLCOrrery.esp
16 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
17 DLCVileLair.esp
18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1B DLCSpellTomes.esp
1C DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1D DLCThievesDen.esp
1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
20 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
21 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
22 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
23 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
24 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
25 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
27 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
28 OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]
29 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2A FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2B FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2C FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2D FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
30 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
32 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
33 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
34 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
35 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
36 MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
37 DLCFrostcrag.esp
38 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
39 Knights.esp
3A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
3B FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
3D Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3E Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3F Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
40 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
41 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
42 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
43 Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
44 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]
45 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

cobl was correctly installed right?

Ah, that is so much better. Does the Cobl Races - Balanced.esp depend on the ESP loading in front of it. (If it does, the Cobl Races plugin will be listed in its masters in the frame on the right.) If you are unsure, that should be mentioned in the BOSS log. You definitely do not want the race changes duplicated. That would be a waste. The only other thing is that MMM-Cobl is not yet compatible with FCOM, so get rid of it. Other than that, your load order looks pretty good. I am not sure if you read this part of my earlier post, but make sure you are using the latest version of Harvest Flora and not the version bundled with OOO. It has a major fix.

Remember to deactivate the plugins that are merged. Look for green text. Some plugins have green text but are not merged. If you deactivate one of those, the bashed patch will probably be deactivated. Just activate the bashed patch to correct that mistake, and keep going. After checking the few things I mentioned above, rebuild the bashed patch and go play.

Edit: If you have trouble with crashes. I am not sure if I mentioned this already, but make sure you have the Diverse WaterLife update. It fixes some nasty bugs, among other things.

If you do not have them already, download and install the latest version of OBSE followed by Fast Exit 2 and OSR: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/installobseplugins. There are no settings to change. Just install them as per the instructions on that page.

ouch i had already installed harvest flora from OOO ,

i have to deactivate all the mods that are in the bashed patch?all right?including the DLC=?


MMM extrawounding and MMM damage and durability are diferents esp

froms MMM official thread :

"Extra Wounding - It extends MMM 3.5.3 combat/wounding/fatique system to npcs / creature's that are not modified by MMM...vanilla npcs and creatures etc...those added by other mods...etc..."
"Damage & Durability: Increases weapon damage by 50%, weapon skill based damage by 50%, and armor and weapon durability by 100% to help fights go faster and armor last longer with the default increase in spawns."

that means that i can use mmm extrawounding cause from all that i read i didnt found any problems

note: im a little confused -to much information installing today XD- but there is a important factor to have in mind if you want to install MMM Diverse Creature Skins also in YOUR expert opinion i left something important behind? any plugin or something?


about cobl races in the descriptions says this :

cobl races : New races, hair and eyes.

cobl races balanced: Re-balances vanilla and Cobl races and birthsigns. Based on bg2408's Race Balancing Project (RBP).

im downloading race balancing project 10.5 its that compatible with cobl races??

wrye bash rock!

No. It says that COBL Races Balanced is based on RBP, so they do essentially similar things. I recommend RBP of the former however. Remove Cobl Races all together going with RBP.

MMM: Make sure the plugin is compatible with FCOM. The MMM readme should say if it is not compatible.

What about the DLCs? Only deactivate mods that are merged in the bashed patch. Deactivate means uncheck. If a mod is merged, after unchecking it a "+" will be next to it instead. Mergeable plugins have green text in the mods window. Not all green text mods are mergeable because some are tagged with NoMerge, but most are. You can also check the ReadMe for your bashed patch to see which plugins are merged. Right-click on the bashed patch, and click on docs (or files?)

WELL i found a "bug"? 4 outlaws where chasing me i arrive to the city gates and the guard started to fight with him then i enter to the city and go outside again and the guard and the bandits well were idle they started to fight when i appear again , i tested a every time i enter to the city well nothing happens weird no?

the dlcs question was because dlc tomes appears in green a i could agregate to the bashed patch right?

That is not weird. It would be terrible if your game still ran all kinds of AI packages without your PC present. Your CPU would die.

The DLCs question is irrelevant. Any mod that is mergeable is fine to merge unless the readme says otherwise. The reason why that mod is mergeable is because it does not add new records, content. (It created the tomes using records already available in the Oblivion.esm) Merging and deactivating mergeable mods whose readmes' did not give an explicit reason why is fine, AS LONG AS, no other mod depend on it. (That is the reason for the "NoMerge" Bash tag.) If something in your load order depends on the mod's presence, merging it is pointless because it needs to stay active anyway.

Hmm...are you absolutely sure about that? AFAIK it is compatible with FCOM and BOSS does not give any warnings about it.

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[quote name='Tomlong75210' date='02 April 2010 - 05:28 AM' timestamp='1270178902' post='15813002']
Remove the MMM Extra Wounding plugin. That is what the FCOM Durability and Damage plugin does. That MMM module is not compatible with FCOM.

Hmm...are you absolutely sure about that? AFAIK it is compatible with FCOM and BOSS does not give any warnings about it.
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I said I was not sure. Did you read my following post?