I know what you mean... bliviongate:

Not necessarily, many people post from there workstation at work, or from smart phones or mini laptops.

intel core i7 980 3.33ghz
Geforce GTX 570
12 GB DDR3 SD RAM

No problems.

ive been wondering, i know the graphics have been improved, but is it the same graphic engine oblivion has? or is a totally new system? reason i am asking this is that i built a new system this past year and i can play oblivion as smooth as butter... however i am currently using the on board video. i am going to up grade soon to a better video card soon.

You saw the video he posted?

And most household computers wouldn't stand a chance running Skyrim, or any game for that matter.

Oh it's a fact before the even comes out, interesting.

This is also the first out of 40 previews in the last 3 days we have heard of it, also interesting

Finally, most of what we have seen is xbox 360 content and 98% of people say it looks incredible. Very very interesting.

There are a lot of things that can be done to limit pop in, even on "dated" hardware. Which is why people complain, even if they have consoles. Because they play other games that do not have pop in. It's all about coding and priorities. I'm not complaining. The game sounds and looks fantastic from what I have seen. Just pointing out that "get a PC, duh." is not the last word on the subject for anybody capable of reasonable thought processes.

The pop in didn't bother me in Oblivion, it won't bother me(if it's there) in Skyrim. I started playing games on an Artari 2600, where my hero was a square. I guess my immersion is eased by perspective. Lucky Me.

For the record, I do have a good PC, with better hardware than my Xbox. I do play games on it. I am choosing to play Skyrim on my Xbox, for matters I pointed out in my previous post. Thank goodness we have a choice.

Agreed

New engine called "Creation". Recently upgraded my own vid card to Nvidia GT 9800 myself, so I'm hopeful.

Lol, this alone should debunk anything this article has to say...Did he/she even play Oblivion??

And PC users are the first ones to post all over the forums about issues on release.

You mean the re-skinned oblivion video? That's just better textures on an old engine. I thought you were supposed to be able to draw a lot farther in skyrim; any popping that's happening on the XBox version will either be severely mitigated to non-existant on a high-end PC. Vastly different hardware.

I don't think you can just say "Oh well get it on PC. You don't have a right to complain if you're playing on console." The point of consoles is that they're pretty much gaming rigs for those who cannot afford high end Gaming PC's. As long as we're buying a product from Bethesda, we as customers, have a right to complain that it is not fully optimized or doesn't run properly on our systems. If you buy a refridgerator that spontaneously shuts off for up to an hour, you complain, you don't just "Deal with it" because you're house can't put out enough electricity. Clearly something is wrong with the Fridge, as there would be something wrong with Skyrim if it suffered form serious performance issues on Xbox. Basically it would be false advertising. Companies can get sued for that, so they tend to try their hardest and make things they sell...work.

I'm not saying the XBox is crap; I'm saying that a better platform is the solution to any graphical nuances caused by inadequate hardware. The people who are bothered by this need to either upgrade or cope.

That's quite an extreme system to play a 5 year old game with no pop-in!! It's over the top and I can't afford that. The point is that if the engine was better coded then it wouldn't be such a strain on the system to increase the draw distance and you shouldn't need mods to fix these sort of problems. All I'm asking is, have they improved the LOD system since Oblivion? I'm hapy you have a mega system that can take these inefficient mods but most don't have that sort of system.

Again, this is not how buying and selling products works....

Have to admit I hadn't even bothered to read the article. What I have seen has proven to me that LOD in Skyrim makes Oblivion's LOD look like N64 graphics. That's good enough for me.

What, with the three hundred dollar video card and all.

And the tennis match just keeps-a-goin'.


Later all. :wave:

Again if a company is going to state they are releasing a product for a certain format, they are obligated to makes sure it works on the format as well as possible because you are buying it.
You said it would work fine, if it doesn't, that's false advertising.

I didn't notice a whole lot of pop-in while watching the demo so I don't think it's that big of an issue. Only one person previewing seemed to even notice at all, and I think this renovated engine for Skyrim is far better optimized. Still, it's the same console that Oblivion was released on. If you want to game on the XBox you're going to have to accept certain graphical nuances that will inevitably fall on dated hardware. Not saying that to be insulting, it's just reality.

I honestly doubt most console players would've even noticed if it hadn't been pointed out. We've all watched a lot of demo footage on the XBox and no one here brought it up, and people here will jump on anything. I think the people who are worried about this are overreacting.

It's not going to look as good on console as it does on PC. It not drawing as far or as efficiently as the PC isn't the game "not working."

Wanna hear a joke?

Consoles.

Constant Pop-in, Frequent Framerate issues, and lots of screen tearing are serious performance issues, just like how a fridge not cooling things for up to an hour sometimes is a performance issue. These things all constitute a product "not working properly", just to a higher or lesser degree.

Also, good to see another Godzilla fan in these dark times. =]