I agree a mapmaker would be awesome, although what kind of features one could expect is anyone's guess. I doubt full cutscenes could be animated within the editor itself, although making it posible to import animations created in other tools would really make such an editor shine. The one thing I am worried is how the inclusion of primary/secondary objectives would/could be handled (and their possible use for xp farming?).

In the end, an editor would help keep the upcoming Brink community alive longer, so I'm all in favor of it!

I'm pretty sure if Splash Damage did release an editor, they would think of a way to guard against this (i.e. the XP awarded cannot exceed this amount; the objective must be this far away), so it would have to be delayed for quite a while to prevent against possible XP farming.

Maybe you could only use it for Private matches? That sounds fair, and then no XP balancing is required.

People are going to find ways to farm no matter what precautions SD takes, so I don't think removing worthwhile features just to prevent it is the best idea. Whats the worst that can happen? Someone farms to the level 20 level cap in an hour instead of a few days, and has to play against a bunch of experienced lvl 20 players with no experience of their own.

Wasn't there such an editor for a recent RPG?

people have made thousands of objective based maps for W:ET w/GTKRadiant and lots for ET:QW, it isn't that big a problem

There are plenty of people willing and able to make good maps. No mapmaker would be a horrible decision. As Nail said, they made thousands of maps for RTCW, W:ET and some of them were really really popular. (Venice, Supply Depot, Caen, ...)

Map editor is hard man forget that!!
What about you paint, color, or camouflage your gun that could be it!! :goodjob:

That's.. not really the topic of the thread.

:rofl:

For you it might be so. Not true for others.

There's going to be multiple camouflages available for the guns. Besides, custom camouflaged guns would put more of a stress on the game because all of the other players will have to download the camos to actually see them.

Most likely, one of the main reasons not to put a custom painter in the game would also be to prevent people from creating profane content or anything inappropriate (pictures of nudity, sixist/racist/hateful slogans, etc).

I don't want to see a guy running around with a picture of a naked woman on his t-shirt, or a freak with red armbands bearing Swastikas on a white circle :verymad:

Yes to the mapmaker, not because i will use (i tried it once and found out is not really for me) but i have a couple of friends who could spend countless hours making maps

Not really interested in a race mode to be honest :unsure2:

Well, there's a reason the ESRB doesn't rate online content. But wanting to limit people's customization options because you might not want to see what they would come up with is rather silly.

Oh, really?

They took snipers out because it ruins some people's enjoyment of the game.
They took OHKs out because it ruins some people's enjoyment of the game.

You could pick just about anything and claim to be offended by it. I suppose it's just a matter of personal principles. I'd rather just not play with someone or something that offended me rather than vying to limit someone's options based on my will.

I'm guessing you avoid playing WW2 shooters?

A create your own map feature might actually be pretty interesting. Even if it was only a block based enviroment it could be pretty cool. A map doesn't actually have to have a story behind it if it's a custom made map. People like playing game's for the arenas they can play in, not so much the story of the map. I don't believe that this will be incorporated into brink because it wasn't promised and the develepors don't want to delay the game another year... Cool idea tho

No, and find that argument pretty petty, actually. There's a huge difference between vivid imagery taken in and out of context.
Handcuffs on a policeman's belt don't depict the same idea as ones on a bedpost.
A zombie toy doll might be worth a laugh for some, but definitely not for a woman who just went trough a stillbirth.
A Nazi officer's outfit in an historical recreation has not the same impact as one, say, in a Synagogue.

Displaying hate related imagery out of context just for the sake of pissing people off is tasteless. SD went to great length to let people not have to deal with douchebags and other irritaters when playing online : you can turn mics off and let the game handle intra-team conversations. However what's the point if anyone can walk around with any hate-filled message written over their tshirt?

Am I against the use of Nazi imagery in W:ET? Hell no. In Brink? Definitely.

but how would you even play the map with your friends if you can't play custom games

Yeah but you're not even talking about just hate-filled messages. you said you didn't want to see a naked woman on someone's shirt either. It sounds to me like you're in favor of censorship for your own personal sensibilities.

who are you talking about

Censorship isn't all bad. I'd prefer it than seeing pictures of nvde women, animals going at it, guys touching themselves, and other things that people put in customizable objects like say a Black Ops Emblem.....

I knew eventually someone would say something about BO's emblems

Censorship is a slippery slope that is held to the whims and sensibilities of a typically prudish minority. It's better to just have the option of free association than to deny people the right of self-expression. The internet isn't all that censored in this country. How often do you find yourself running into animals going at it because of that?

I don't really run into animals going at it on the internet? :blink: