[Taylor Bakos]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4lrm97dBqNo/TUFlxQiW7CI/AAAAAAAAAZM/n_xn6TWnSA8/s1600/artofskyrim_013_femmonster.jpg appears to be a possible female variation of the creature in the second picture, leading me to believe it's probably an ice vampire.

That's what's throwing me off the ice vampire idea. The two really don't look anything alike, and I much prefer that female concept art for the final appearance of ice vampires.

For that ice vampire art:

• Ears are completely different, more erect and bat-like (could be accounted for by gender)
  
• Nose is completely different, much less bat-like (could be accounted for by gender)
  
• Actually has eyes
  
• Very different mouth
  
• Lips of pic 1 and 2 are devoid of color (do ice vampire women wear lipstick? :laugh: )
  
• Facial structure is considerably straighter, thinner, pointier

Unless they're approaching males and females from very different directions, or varying levels of hunger lead to drastically different appearances (which would be pretty cool) then I just don't see the resemblance.

[Jeneene Hunte]

The poll brought up pic 4: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb4.png

Guys, its obviously the Nordic Temple Ruins in the concept art: http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pes/31408182.jpg (sorr, but its identical, no objections). This is the temple at the throat of the world, which there is another screenshot of a dragon sitting atop the same structure.

[Claudz]

The poll brought up pic 4: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb4.png

Guys, its obviously the Nordic Temple Ruins in the concept art: http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pes/31408182.jpg (sorr, but its identical, no objections). This is the temple at the throat of the world, which there is another screenshot of a dragon sitting atop the same structure.

No, nevermind. I don't think it is. Consider the scale. The concept art ruins are huge, but pic 4 shows some people seemingly up close and it's maybe a 20 foot high arch. Also, the slope of the arch of the big ruins is gradual, while the arch of pic 4 is much smoother, more circular, and tighter.

Similar designs, but it may be a different location.

[Mrs shelly Sugarplum]

I don't really see the big deal, nor the need for such discussion, on these "pictures". They don't even look like in-game shots. :shrug:
Also, just lol@people saying it's an argonian or something. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't be surprised if Beth did this on purpose just to see your alls reaction.

[Gavin Roberts]

No, nevermind. I don't think it is. Consider the scale. The concept art ruins are huge, but pic 4 shows some people seemingly up close and it's maybe a 20 foot high arch. Also, the slope of the arch of the big ruins is gradual, while the arch of pic 4 is much smoother, more circular, and tighter.

Similar designs, but it may be a different location.

Considering its concept art, and just an initial concept for a design, i still go with it. Looks similar enough. And i have a hard time believing that they would have numerous Nordic temples with the same design as the Throat of the world, which is supposed to be the biggest-deal location in the entire plot.

[Kristian Perez]

I don't really see the big deal, nor the need for such discussion, on these "pictures". They don't even look like in-game shots. :shrug:
Also, just lol@people saying it's an argonian or something. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't be surprised if Beth did this on purpose just to see your alls reaction.

Yes, it could certainly be a deliberate marketing tactic.

In any case, I think it's fun to try to deduce what these pics are.

@Goth Observationist - excellent eye, BTW, I think you are onto something with the Nordic Temple concept art.

[Kerri Lee]

Lady Nerevar pointed out that the icy blue-white skin is based on a single account from some Nord. There's no evidence beyond that for what their skin looks like, so it shouldn't be taken too seriously.

I still want to know why he and this buddy seem blind. I've also said before that his posture is all wrong for Scamp, and his proportions are more like a human or mer. The second image is hunched over like a scamp would be, but looks really nothing like a Scamp. I'm accounting for the hunched posture with age.

Well as I posted on vsions wall, I don't think it would be a Falmer in the original sense as like it is said, that is the only account what they look like (though we take the Ayleids account of what color they were as fact and we only have one). I think it is some degenerate Falmer descendant that has degenerated because of being in hiding for millenia. Kinda like the Morloks from the book Time Machine. So those are my two choices, scamp wearing daedric armor or Degenerate Falmer descendant wearing daedric armor. It could also be a dremora but that's a drastic change in look to the past.

[Laurenn Doylee]

I think it is some degenerate Falmer descendant that has degenerated because of being in hiding for millenia. Kinda like the Morloks from the book Time Machine.

That's my theory exactly :thumbsup:

[Rachael]

pic 1 is a goblin that got his hands on some sort of daedric armor or maybe he made an armor from parts of a giant spider

pic 2 looks nothing like pic 1 the creature in pic 1 has a very diffined nose and its yellowish green not grayish green the creature or should i say person in pic 2 just looks like some really old orc lady

[Bambi]

pic 2 looks nothing like pic 1 the creature in pic 1 has a very diffined nose and its yellowish green not grayish green the creature or should i say person in pic 2 just looks like some really old orc lady

Are you looking at the zoomed in images? The first image has a skin color that's either light tan or silver, depending on how you think the scene is lighted. The second image has silvery skin. If you look at pic 2's body, the shadow his head is casting on himself makes his skin color look a lot like pic 1's skin color. The differences in color can be attributed to lighting or age. They may also have been done by different artists.

If you think either of them is green, you need to recalibrate your monitor :biggrin:

The first pic isn't at a high enough resolution for us to really get a good look at his nose. You're right though, it does look more human than the second pic. Again, that might be age.

OR, the first could be a Falmer and the second could be a vampire Falmer :foodndrink:

[RObert loVes MOmmy]

Are you looking at the zoomed in images? The first image has a skin color that's either light tan or silver, depending on how you think the scene is lighted. The second image has silvery skin. If you look at pic 2's body, the shadow his head is casting on himself makes his skin color look a lot like pic 1's skin color. The differences in color can be attributed to lighting or age. They may also have been done by different artists.

If you think either of them is green, you need to recalibrate your monitor :biggrin:

The first pic isn't at a high enough resolution for us to really get a good look at his nose. You're right though, it does look more human than the second pic. Again, that might be age.

OR, the first could be a Falmer and the second could be a vampire Falmer :foodndrink:

no the second one doesnt have a nose the first one does o.0 and the second one is greyish green and if you look at the side of the head you see frizzy white hair to me it looks like a really old orc lady

[Big Homie]

pic 1 is a goblin that got his hands on some sort of daedric armor or maybe he made an armor from parts of a giant spider

pic 2 looks nothing like pic 1 the creature in pic 1 has a very diffined nose and its yellowish green not grayish green the creature or should i say person in pic 2 just looks like some really old orc lady

I posted this before but:

It makes sense that the second picture would be plain white because the firts one had skin color. If you take into the fact that they were both in the same folder, and were discarded around the same time, they could be the same. Not only that, they both have the same nose, and frown (take a look at my re-made version on the previous page [or page 5]). Firstly, they are concept pieces, so it would make sense that he did the first one with armor on and the body. The second one would just have to be a simple sketch of the head (seeing as how thats the only part that was covered off in the previous), and he could leave it white because he has the skin tone in the first one. You see, its concept art because it just provides the base concept of the character. None of these are complete looks for anything.

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

no the second one doesnt have a nose the first one does o.0 and the second one is greyish green and if you look at the side of the head you see frizzy white hair to me it looks like a really old orc lady

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/t/h/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-pc-1303119651-032.jpg Male and young, but it will suffice. You can note several things:

• Orcs have tusks
  
• Orc ears are broader, shorter, and not covered in hair
  
• Orc mouths do not look like /\
  
• Orc noses (at least this one) are turned down in Skyrim, not up like a bat
  
• Orcs have eyes

[Nadia Nad]

Now that you expanded the first two I am 100% certain it is the same creature in both pictures. Why does everyone say the creature has no eyes, there are clearly two very large eyes on that face...

[Cedric Pearson]

Scamp wearing daedric armor is losing votes... <_<

[Emma louise Wendelk]

Scamp wearing daedric armor is losing votes... <_<

Vote danger dan for president! :foodndrink:

[El Goose]

Vote danger dan for president! :foodndrink:

You've already sworn your allegiance to the Falmer! :verymad:

It's either a falmer, or a vampire. I vouch for falmers though.

[Alada Vaginah]

He's a born politician.

[SWagg KId]

You've already sworn your allegiance to the Falmer! :verymad:

Damn, my cover is blown. :toughninja:

[Mistress trades Melissa]

Pic #1 looks like an Elf with Daedric armor. The shoulder is obviously(?) Daedric, and the helmet looks pretty Daedric to me... I'm no anolyst though (looking back at it, it does look like its the same creature in number 2, but my first thought was, it's an elf, and it's just frowning, and it's nose is very.. pointed up?)

Pic #2, I have no idea what it is. First things that come to my mind is some kind of weird Goblin, or more likely, a shaved Troll from Oblivion

Pic #4 (no 3?)... When I first seen it I thought to myself "Looks like an obelisk or something". Then I seen the 720p version, and I noticed the 2 people running in the distance, and bars in front of the screen, and a lot of little details, and to me it looked like I was imprisoned... And maybe those 2 people running in the distance are either running from something, or coming to help me...


Just my imagination on these pics

[KiiSsez jdgaf Benzler]

do you think it could be one of the bethesda employees just screwing with us?
like they had an idea, decided to trash it but put it up on the website first, just to mess with us and create hype?

[Suzie Dalziel]

I think we should add my clarified pic1 to the OP http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd115/starclaps/daedra-2.jpg . I noticed it started + cleared up some speculation.

[Da Missz]

The Statement below is true.
The Statement above is false.

[Andy durkan]

Pic #1 looks like an Elf with Daedric armor. The shoulder is obviously(?) Daedric, and the helmet looks pretty Daedric to me... I'm no anolyst though (looking back at it, it does look like its the same creature in number 2, but my first thought was, it's an elf, and it's just frowning, and it's nose is very.. pointed up?)

Pic #2, I have no idea what it is. First things that come to my mind is some kind of weird Goblin, or more likely, a shaved Troll from Oblivion

Pic #4 (no 3?)... When I first seen it I thought to myself "Looks like an obelisk or something". Then I seen the 720p version, and I noticed the 2 people running in the distance, and bars in front of the screen, and a lot of little details, and to me it looked like I was imprisoned... And maybe those 2 people running in the distance are either running from something, or coming to help me...


Just my imagination on these pics

Notice in the similar Nordic temple in the concept art (which i believe to be the same as pic 4) there are people leading, or being attacked by wolves. http://theelderscrollsskyrim.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/skyrim_conceptart_6.jpg

Perhpas thats what theyre running from.

[DeeD]

I think we should add my clarified pic1 to the OP http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd115/starclaps/daedra-2.jpg . I noticed it started + cleared up some speculation.

Added - great work on this!

Can you try to do the same thing with PIC #2?