[Michelle davies]

Vampires were found wearing daedric armour in MW and Oblivion, and Scamps never wear armour in any TES game.

And goblins always wear their own armor.

[des lynam]

And goblins always wear their own armor.

It's either a falmer, or a vampire. I vouch for falmers though.

[Ernesto Salinas]

Though if that's daedric, it's the most torn up daedric armor ever. It only covers a little bit of him.

[Camden Unglesbee]

Looking at the picture, I don't think it's a humanoid of any kind, unless it's an undead elf. If that was the new look for one of the three original elven races, I think I would be thoroughly disappointed. It just doesn't look right.... :confused: I'd say falmer, vampire, or goblin.

[Marina Leigh]

I'm thinking it's a falmer or riekling. The face on http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb2_720.jpg looks alot like http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SK-npc-Falmer.jpg

[Jonny]

I'm gonna have to go with Reikling now...I think they were mentioned in an article somewhere--or something...maybe? I'm sure they would look cooler now in Skyrim

[LuCY sCoTT]

Though if that's daedric, it's the most torn up daedric armor ever. It only covers a little bit of him.

Which is consistent with most of the other new armour we have seen - i.e. only covering part of one's body. I think it looks kind of silly, though - give me plate mail!

I think if it were Falmer, it would have blue skin. If it were falmer, why does it look like a bat?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Looking at the picture, I don't think it's a humanoid of any kind, unless it's an undead elf. If that was the new look for one of the three original elven races, I think I would be thoroughly disappointed. It just doesn't look right.... :confused: I'd say falmer, vampire, or goblin.

if it is indeed a falmer, how interesting would it be if the falmer found ruins and artifacts of dwemer civilization in order to thrive unnoticed by the rest of skyrim biding their time for the revenge against the nords.

probably not, but it would make an interesting concept and quest line.

[R.I.P]

2 threads and a few hours of sleep later, my theory is again buried by a High Hrothgar of speculation.

I think we need to look more closely at their design and what they inspire.

The helmet has crab/lobster claws, and the armor is very much designed with shapes of sea shells and corals but uncolored.

The second picture with the wizened hair and skin makes me think knowledge/wisdom/experience, but the face's shape makes me think haunted. It certainly fits the bill for the ghosts of Apocrypha, ever searching, ever learning. But never learning what they search for in the first place.

What I think is that these are a new Daedra related to Hermaeus Mora!

[Ladymorphine]

Ansei, you have an excellent theory, and one which I never thought of before. Interesting...

if it is indeed a falmer, how interesting would it be if the falmer found ruins and artifacts of dwemer civilization in order to thrive unnoticed by the rest of skyrim biding their time for the revenge against the nords.

probably not, but it would make an interesting concept and quest line.

That would be awesome. :icecream:

[Alexandra Ryan]

2 threads and a few hours of sleep later, my theory is again buried by a High Hrothgar of speculation.

I think we need to look more closely at their design and what they inspire.

The helmet has crab/lobster claws, and the armor is very much designed with shapes of sea shells and corals but uncolored.

The second picture with the wizened hair and skin makes me think knowledge/wisdom/experience, but the face's shape makes me think haunted. It certainly fits the bill for the ghosts of Apocrypha, ever searching, ever learning. But never learning what they search for in the first place.

What I think is that these are a new Daedra related to Hermaeus Mora!

Ok, now this one is a really, really interesting theory!

also:

"Herma-Mora (The Woodland Man): Ancient Atmoran demon who, at one time, nearly seduced the Nords into becoming Aldmer. Most Ysgramor myths are about escaping the wiles of old Herma-Mora. Also called the Demon of Knowledge, he is vaguely related to the cult origins of the Morag Tong ('Foresters Guild'), if only by association with his brother/sister, Mephala."
- http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-varieties-faith-empire

[naome duncan]

Ok, now this one is a really, really interesting theory!

I know, I think it makes more sense than anything else. It definitely makes me think... :spotted owl:

[Charles Mckinna]

The pic of the "Giant" is actually the one and only Rubber Duck aka http://img.likecinema.net/images/movie/player/Kris_Kristofferson_1280004587.jpg

[joannARRGH]

Maybe the scamps took all the armor of the dead Dremora after Oblivion and made their own "race" in Tamriel?

[Bird]

Ok, now this one is a really, really interesting theory!

I would like that much more than Falmer. Hermaeus Mora was always my favourite Daedra.

[MISS KEEP UR]

I wake up this morning and you all manage to go through three (THREE!) threads. I think this is being far too overthought.

Patience is a virtue. Go play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVVZaZ8yO6o or something, you're doing the world a disservice if you aren't.

[Racheal Robertson]

I see Mr. Breckon is checking to see how we are progressing...

Could he be the evil mastermind who engineered this viral marketing campaign?

[Soku Nyorah]

I would like that much more than Falmer. Hermaeus Mora was always my favourite Daedra.

Heres a link about Hermaeus Mora for thos ethat wish to read: http://www.imperial-library.info/category/tags/hermaeus-mora

Tbh I think that saying the mask is crab-like with shell influences is pushing it. It reminds me more of the goblins from Moria in LOTR: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2abjEM8O5pU/Sw49C_0a6kI/AAAAAAAAAGc/_5r5n94kq5k/s1600/MoriaOrc_v23_Pose03.jpg

I wanted to propose just a bit of speculation though: Seeing as how this series of images was found with the link, "To_delete," it could possibly suggest something that didn't make the cut for the game. Todd talked about the team playing with vampires and were wolves (he specifically said things that transform) and said it could be yay or nay. Tbh, with all of this vampire speculation, i would go as far to say that this is a trashed concept. Believe me, i always keep old art unless i dont need it anymore. Whatever this idea was, it wont be referenced for anything.

EDIT: wow, it really DOES look like that Moria Orc from LOTR. Same nose, same ears, the knees on the armor look shell-influenced (BUT ARE NOT CLEARLY, THEY WERE UNDERGROUND), the shield has a similar look to the armor. and the skin tone is waaay similar. I think i see a spot of inspiration!

[Victor Oropeza]

Tbh I think that saying the mask is crab-like with shell influences is pushing it. It reminds me more of the goblins from Moria in LOTR: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2abjEM8O5pU/Sw49C_0a6kI/AAAAAAAAAGc/_5r5n94kq5k/s1600/MoriaOrc_v23_Pose03.jpg

Take a closer look at the helmet, it's not pushing it that the helmet is "crab-like" it has crab claws.

And I the goblin's armor really doesn't make me think of shells at all, maybe it's just me but I see much more similarities between the armor's design and http://a.rgbimg.com/cache1n925A/users/k/kr/krayker/300/2dkzmYC.jpg rather than the moria goblin.

[Fiori Pra]

snip

[Jessica Thomson]

Come on, Nick... A little hint perhaps?

[kevin ball]

i dont think gary busey should be ruled out

[Ross Thomas]

Take a closer look at the helmet, it's not pushing it that the helmet is "crab-like" it has crab claws.

And I the goblin's armor really doesn't make me think of shells at all, maybe it's just me but I see much more similarities between the armor's design and http://a.rgbimg.com/cache1n925A/users/k/kr/krayker/300/2dkzmYC.jpg rather than the moria goblin.

After looking at the zoomed-in, i noticed the crab claws on the face. Hmm, maybe your onto something. And the multiply eye sockets and helmet shape does look daedric.

Actually, if you remmeber in Oblivion: All of the spikes in the realm of oblivion, on the armors and architecture of daedra, had red tips. like here http://images.wikia.com/skyrim/images/3/38/Dremora.jpg
http://gamers-ground.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Oblivion-Gate.jpg

and then if you look closely at the zoomed in spikes of the armor on pic1, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1_720p.jpg , you will see the same red at the end of the spikes.

[Jah Allen]

I'm going to repost my theories on the pictures and Falmer:

• They originated in Skyrim. If Bethesda is going to ever use them in a TES game, now is the time.
  
• No one really knows what happened to the Falmer. They are rumored to have been all killed by the Nords, or interbred into the other mer races. If either of these are true, it's still very possible that some survived.
  
• To go unnoticed for so long, they would have had to hide underground, most likely. Lots of room for that in Skyrim, with all the mountains to dig into.
  
• Mer in general welcome the destruction of Nirn by Alduin. Falmer have as much or more reason to believe it's a good thing, considering their defeat at the hands of men.
  
• Because they would welcome the coming of Alduin, now is a perfect time for them to come out of hiding. They've got a Dragonkin (your player!) to thwart.
  
• Their centuries in hiding in the dark caves of the mountains would explain their rather undead complexion, as well as their apparent blindness or sensitivity to light (i.e., the mask which covers the eyes and the second image's milky stare).
  
• The critters appear to have hair on their mostly mer-ish ears. That'd make sense for a mer race originating in Skyrim.
  
• The first image could be of a young Falmer, the second of an elder. That would explain the difference in skin tone, the more prevalent wrinkles on critter #2, and the fact that only one (the younger) is wearing battle-ready armor.

That's still my theory of choice.

[SamanthaLove]

Frodo--you also have some very excellent points. Arrggh, there are so many possibilities... :ahhh:

After looking at the zoomed-in, i noticed the crab claws on the face. Hmm, maybe your onto something. And the multiply eye sockets and helmet shape does look daedric.

Actually, if you remmeber in Oblivion: All of the spikes in the realm of oblivion, on the armors and architecture of daedra, had red tips. like here http://images.wikia.com/skyrim/images/3/38/Dremora.jpg
http://gamers-ground.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Oblivion-Gate.jpg

and then if you look closely at the zoomed in spikes of the armor on pic1, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1_720p.jpg , you will see the same red at the end of the spikes.

If we are correct in assuming this is the case, I think I will be very happy with that. Hermeaus Mora is one daedric prince that has always intrigued me, and yet I've never really found out that much on him... It would be really cool to see something more in depth involving him and his followers....

Madgod, I hope if it is the Hermaeus Mora thing, that they didn't trash the idea, as was suggested a few posts up... That would be kinda disappointing, especially because of all this speculation...