[Quick Draw]

The following thumbnail pics were found on www.elderscrolls.com

Luke Skyrimmer discovered the first one and Inglar did some crafty detective work to find the other pics.

Can you figure out what they are?

Pic #1 and Pic #2 appear to be screens of the same creature or humanoid, with a helmet on and without the helmet, although the subjects could be entirely different.

Fiore1300 makes a very convincing argument that the helmet is an updated version of the http://members.shaw.ca/rado907/armor/light/mor-glassarmor.jpg

Others have proposed that it is a crustacean-inspired helmet for servants of Hermaeus Mora.

Pic #4 could be a room in a dungeon, some have suggested it is part of Alduin's Wall, and Goth Observationist astutely noted that it greatly resembles http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pes/31408182.jpg?__sf=1303526026

Pic #5 appears to be a Giant


Actual Size Pics:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb2.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb4.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb5.png


Expanded to 720p resolution:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1_720p.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb2_720.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb4_720.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb5_720.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4lrm97dBqNo/TUFlxQiW7CI/AAAAAAAAAZM/n_xn6TWnSA8/s1600/artofskyrim_013_femmonster.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTOMNMGOGbPVewiAF23zRQaGyhJbtcaZ2ZHyiSuz4ffnpsO0SkNqw&t=1


Expanded and processed to improve image quality by Goth Observationist:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd115/starclaps/daedra-2.jpg?__sf=1303533229

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd115/starclaps/thumb2_720.jpg

Heres pick 2: http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd115/starclaps/thumb2_720.jpg

Let me explain my process, and what I encountered.

- The skin on the original's hunched back, matched almost identically with the color of pic 1. They were the same on my pallette. The reason pic 2's face wasnt is because it is in light.

- Pic 2, when i was darkening shadows and wrinkles, shows that it has the same ear-rivets on the inner part of the ear as pic 1 did.

- In addition to the hair, there seems to be small bits of hairy-green (almost like grass) in patches on the figure, i brought them out a bit.

- Upon closer inspection of pic 2, i noticed that the nostrils stream down VERY close to the mouth, and i think that in pic 1 i either mistook the nostrils to be connected to the mouth, or the artist was trying out different upper-lip methods. After all, pic 2 IS an i-depth face study of pic 1 (since in pic 1, the only thing that is covered is the face, and would be the only thing needing additional information for modelers to put it in-game)

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181789-i-think-bethesda-made-an-oops/&__sf=1303473453
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181814-i-think-bethesda-made-an-oops-thread-2/&__sf=1303473453
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181827-i-think-bethesda-made-a-oops-thread-3/&__sf=1303473405
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181824-what-do-you-think-the-mystery-picture-is/&__sf=1303473050

Latest Update on speculation:

Quotes from VSIONS:

Thread #2 well, I must say, one of you is very clever

could this be a reference to Lady Nerevar's Falmer suggestion? Danger Dan's scamp suggestion?

Thread #2 well its been fun, but I have to go work on a certain elven race before I call it a night..... no relation to this thread by the way, just wanted to throw another little bit of turmoil out there.
Maybe I will return when this reaches a third thread.

Thread #3 wow this has really grown. hmmm, quite a few good guesses in these threads... but alas there can be only one. Some really clever people in here though

Thread #4

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181824-what-do-you-think-the-mystery-picture-is/page__view__findpost__p__17517729&__sf=1303502069

ding ding ding, we have a winner folks!

Thread #4 still growing huh? Right from the very beggining there was some interesting speculation. By the way you guys have a very impressive grasp of the lore.

hmm...Lady Nerevar seems to have an impressive grasp of the lore




leading theories initially proposed by one person in Thread 1 or 2 [possible]
- Falmer
- Scamp wearing daedric armor
- Ice Vampire
- undead Falmer

gaining traction [possible]
- daedra servant of Hermaeus Mora, ancient Atmoran demon who nearly seduced the Nords into becoming Aldmer (possibly wearing a lobster on his face)

other possibilities [possible]
- Cowl or Spider Cowl
- Lich
- some humanoid with a cool scorpion/lobster helmet (would mean that thumb1 and thumb2 are not the same subject)
- some other sort of vampire (not Ice)
- Riekling
- Ice Demon from Akavir
- undead Bosmer or Dunmer

theories initially espoused by several people [ruled out]
- no Argonian
- no goblin
- no "spider hero"


theories that seem unlikely after group discussion due to certain details of the image [ruled out]
- Atronach
- wood elf
- Dragon Priest
- Dwemer (several people said this is unlikely)

comic relief [ruled out]
- Old Lady's husband from http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/t/h/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-pc-1303134798-031.jpg?__sf=1303450170
- Gary Busey
- orc's grandmother
- Todd Howard
- Skyrim Deathclaw

Your thoughts? What can we rule out? Any new ideas?

I initially thought it was a Dragon Priest, because the articles describe them as ghostly and it seemed like a cool idea:

* A dungeon described as "Bleak Falls Barrow" is inhabited by Draugr--undead Nord warriors. Players can expect to encounter a ghostly dragon priest and fight a giant Frostbite Spider. The dungeon has been described by Bethesda as "terrifying."

However, as Lady Nerevar pointed out, the http://cms.elderscrolls.com/sites/default/files/tes/screenshots/DraugrGroup_wLegal.jpg?__sf=1303496830

The Dragon priests were also once Nords, so it seems odd that they would suddenly grow huge ears after becoming undead. And the lack of a beard is somewhat inconsistent with Draugr.

[Kieren Thomson]

I still think it is a undead wood elf

[Verity Hurding]

I still think it's a dragon priest.

[Maria Garcia]

It's totally Creeper, our favourite scamp merchant. After the Oblivion crisis he moved to Skyrim and decked himself out in some top-notch armour and now he waits for adventurers to browse his wares, remember he's here all week!
But my vote is with the scamp, just because the Scamp is a low-level Daedra does not mean they can't have new pimp'n armour. :3

[Kari Depp]

No when I looke em more closely, I think that pic 1 and pic 2 is diffrent subject. Pic 1 would be that dark elf who stole that gold claw :mellow: . And pic 2 is somekind of -mer, or dragon priest.

[Gaelle Courant]

snip

[Carlos Rojas]

Bethesda, throw us a bone.

[Mariaa EM.]

I've got to go with falmer but only because of vsions comments. I've never seen an elf that ugly though.

[Felix Walde]

Why is Dragon Priest a silly sugestion? Arn't there things called Jills or something that serve dragons?

[Laura Hicks]

I think its some sort of summonable thing - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb2_720.jpg

And this one a upgraded of the first one - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1_720p.jpg

[Marine Arrègle]

Undead wood elf? lol.. :facepalm:

The picture with the helmet is obviously a scamp with some sort of daedric armor on, extremely obvious, looks nothing like a falmer or a undead or anything else like that for the one fact that it is wearing daedric styled armor!

The other picture which looks sort of similar but without the armor/helmet I believe is completely different and is most likely the concept art for a male ice vampire

[Erika Ellsworth]

The 'Room in Dungeon' looks like the Dragon wall from the trailer.

[Emma]

Scamp Wearing Daedric Armor - forever <3

[Haley Cooper]

Pic nr. 1 and 2 are of different subjects. You can see that by the nose. One has a 'humanoid' nose, and the other more orcish.

[Evaa]

Skyrim Deathclaw ROFL :rofl:
EDIT: And does anyone actually know what Falmer look like ? I mean aside from the crazy stories of nords?

[Sylvia Luciani]

Pic nr. 1 and 2 are of different subjects. You can see that by the nose. One has a 'humanoid' nose, and the other more orcish.

It's hard to tell in my opinion and are we sure the first one isn't concept art? It looks like a different style to me.

[matt oneil]

Actually, these ALL look like concept art. Aside from pic #4, but the resolution is terrible and considering its all greyscale, it's hard to tell.

[Smokey]

The helmet make me think to the Morrowind http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:MW_Armor_GlassM.jpg. Not exactly the same, but they similarities.

[Sarah Evason]

It is a Falmer, then they need to use a spear as according to "Fall of the Snow Prince", the only known weapon that they used is the spear of the Snow Prince. Also they need to have blue white ice covering them, so either it is a new style they are going with the Falmer or it isn't the Falmer...lol So a better guess would be a Scamp, judging by the skin colour, and the ears and the ugliness.

[Natalie J Webster]

The following thumbnail pics were found on www.elderscrolls.com

Luke Skyrimmer discovered the first one and Inglar did some crafty detective work to find the other pics.

Can you figure out what they are?

Pic #1 and Pic #2 appear to be screens of the same creature or humanoid, with a helmet on and without the helmet, although the subjects could be entirely different.

Pic #4 is a room in a dungeon

Pic #5 appears to be a Giant


Actual Size Pics:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb2.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb4.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb5.png


Expanded to 720p resolution:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb1_720p.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb2_720.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb4_720.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/Secret%20Thumbs/thumb5_720.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4lrm97dBqNo/TUFlxQiW7CI/AAAAAAAAAZM/n_xn6TWnSA8/s1600/artofskyrim_013_femmonster.jpg



http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181789-i-think-bethesda-made-an-oops/&__sf=1303473453
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181814-i-think-bethesda-made-an-oops-thread-2/&__sf=1303473453
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181827-i-think-bethesda-made-a-oops-thread-3/&__sf=1303473405
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1181824-what-do-you-think-the-mystery-picture-is/&__sf=1303473050

Latest Update on speculation:

Quotes from VSIONS:




could this be a reference to Lady Nerevar's Falmer suggestion? Danger Dan's scamp suggestion?









hmm...Lady Nerevar seems to have an impressive grasp of the lore



leading theories initially proposed by only one person and now gaining momentum [possible]
- Falmer
- Scamp wearing armor
- Ice Vampire
- Some sort of undead Falmer

less likely theories, initially proposed by only one person [possible]
- Cowl or Spider Cowl
- Lich
- Daedra
- some sort of humanoid with a cool scorpion/lobster helmet (would mean that thumb1 and thumb2 are not the same subject)
- some other sort of vampire (not Ice)
- Riekling

theories initially espoused by several people [ruled out]
- no Argonian
- no goblin
- no "spider hero"


theories that seem unlikely due to silliness or certain details of the image [ruled out]
- Atronach
- wood elf
- Dragon Priest
- orc's grandmother
- Skyrim Deathclaw
- Dwemer (several people said this is unlikely)
- Old Lady's husband from http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/t/h/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-pc-1303134798-031.jpg?__sf=1303450170


Your thoughts? What can we rule out? Any new ideas?

Has anyone suggested that they could be of the Kamal Ice demons form Akavir - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Kamal - ??????

The Kamal did stage an invasion of Tamriel at one point in Nirn's history, maybe a small population survived these years in the mountains of Skyrim?

I think Falmer is another good possibility. Just because they look but ugly doesn't mean they wernt once more "mer" like. The appearance of mer has been altered by Daedra in the past, so maybe some gods f$#ked them up after they got invaded by the nords. For example the blue skin and red eyes given by Azura to the dunmer (originally a type of high elf) becuase of the tribunal and the but ugly Orcs who were high elves that got beaten by an ugly stick after thier god that they worshipped (daedra or aedra i cant remember) was eaten by one of the daedric princes.

Or its just a new type of daedra....

[Svenja Hedrich]

Has anyone suggested that they could be of the Kamal Ice demons form Akavir - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Kamal - ??????

Anything that wasn't suggested before Vsions's post...

well, I must say, one of you is very clever

Is not a possibility.

[Dewayne Quattlebaum]

Pics 1 & 2 are obviously of a Vampire.

1. Vsions posted his "one of you is very clever" very soon after the first ice vampire suggestion was made
2. The nose in pic 2 looks like a bat nose, and just generally looks a lot like a vampire as depicted in other games/movies/etc
3. The two pics are of the same creature - notice the extremely downturned mouth in both pictures, as well as the ears.
4. The pics were 'leaked' at the same time - which again suggests they might be related

On the Daedric armour (that is clearly what it is) in pic 1 - someone early on suggested that it was made from a spider. We know that daedric armour like all daedric things is made using the souls of daedra. Maybe in Skyrim you can craft daedric armour from captured souls, and the armour will look different as a result?

Lastly, the devs keep saying how their new faction system is so great. We can expect faction updates at some point. Assuming vampires are still a faction - maybe the pics were going up in preparation for their next big update in a few weeks or months?

[candice keenan]

Pics 1 & 2 are obviously of a Vampire.

1. Vsions posted his "one of you is very clever" very soon after the first ice vampire suggestion was made
2. The nose in pic 2 looks like a bat nose, and just generally looks a lot like a vampire as depicted in other games/movies/etc
3. The two pics are of the same creature - notice the extremely downturned mouth in both pictures, as well as the ears.
4. The pics were 'leaked' at the same time - which again suggests they might be related

On the Daedric armour (that is clearly what it is) in pic 1 - someone early on suggested that it was made from a spider. We know that daedric armour like all daedric things is made using the souls of daedra. Maybe in Skyrim you can craft daedric armour from captured souls, and the armour will look different as a result?

Lastly, the devs keep saying how their new faction system is so great. We can expect faction updates at some point. Assuming vampires are still a faction - maybe the pics were going up in preparation for their next big update in a few weeks or months?

Good points but "obviously" is not the way I'd put it. Why do you think we're having this discussion in the first place? :confused:

[Sierra Ritsuka]

I dont think it can be a vampire as it is a huge aesthetic change from the normal look of the races, as well as vampires in previous games. Plus it would be a lot of effort to make similiar changes to all the different races.

[BRIANNA]

Just quickly wanna state that it is the same creature... and mostlikely a scamp!
link: [ http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i372/ncb417/?action=view¤t=ScampofSkyrimcopy.jpg ]
I can't prove its a scamp yet, but I can prove its the same creature... (it will be proven in the link)...
and I'm pretty sure its not Falmer... I don't know what Vsion works as but he/she said he/she was working on some elves (Falmer, Bosmer, Altmer, Dunmer, or Dwemer)...
and he/she said the elven race had no revelence here... so Danger Dan or whatever his name is was mostlikely right...

Here's how I proved it:

Spoiler

I took the two pictures into fotoshop and chopped all details up from one of 'em and placed it onto the other... (used a fotoshop ability to make sure they're positioned 100% perfect... In the end the face fit together.