Sims, eh? Stooping pretty low there...........

In all honesty I played those games and didn't hate a second of it. But for those few hours of my life I played that, I considered myself a woman. Mainly because my mother (and all her girl-friends) play the Sims 2 and 3.

Heard that before, that it's a "female game", don't really understand it, not like it's a My Little Pony game. (Here comes the bronies.)

Lol bronies....

...on the other hand, nevermind...

Why the hate?

Deus Ex is a great game, Deus Ex: Human Revolution wasn't as good but still enjoyable.

Some people disliked it because of how easy it is to die, did you have that problem with it?

I would agree that games have become easier and things like that. I know a few people who just play Call of Duty, and then some who think that Skyrim is the best game they have ever played. Though I would like to believe that I have proved to them why Skyrim should never be the best game ever, but I don't know if it worked out. I have one friend who actually sees things similarly to me, just one out of the entire school I believe (two counting me of course ). For the rest I just tend to ignore them and let them talk about what they enjoy, but I do think about trying to tell them why their ideas are flawed. But, I'm definately not as extreme as some people here.

I don't think it was easy to die. In fact it was an overall too easy game for me, lol, there's just some games out there that I hate to an extreme level, and very few I like. The few I like include the Fable series, Fallout, and a few more like Diablo but overall I don't like many games.

Have you played on Deus Ex mode? Its ridiculous, at one point I get one hit killed by any gun while everybody else can take two to three shotgun blasts to the face before dying.

Fables enjoyable, but that's really it? There are a lot more good games out there.

Yah I know there's lots of games out there, I meant to say 'love' not 'like'. I like many more games; even some games that people don't like.

I like Gears of War, I like anything Duke Nukem (Its a classic o.o), I like Assassins Creed (the list goes on)

I don't think there are any bronies on the fallout forums.

Alpha Protocol is from obsidian right?
Deus-ex though i have heard of it but the [censored] is it about?
And Mass Effect is xbox only i think so seeing as how my pc aint that good and i own a ps3 thats not possible.

I have heard of Vampire: The Masquerade - bloodlines from the foruns so it cant be all that bad.
many people praise KOTOR aswell so it cant be bad either.

And i own the Sims 3

1. Yes.

2. First game is about an agent that is trying to take down a terrorist organization but gets caught up in a conspiracy that stretches farther than you think. 2nd game is about some tosser, and third game is about a man who works at a security guard at a augmentation HQ, terrorists break in and kill his girlfriend and almost kills him, after a couple of months of augmentation surgery he returns to work and have to pick off where left off, but whatever happened to those who killed his girlfriend?

3. Both games are available on Steam. [EDIT] Oh, well Mass Effect 2 is available on the PS3 according to wikipedia. But ME1 is not.

Oh and this game is a very different RPG from what everybody else is listing but Heavy Rain is a very fun game.

The whole game is made up of quick time events so if you don't like those then I would pass on it.

Its a PS3 exclusive.

I'll name 5:
-Minecraft
-Little Big Planet 2
-Fallout: New Vegas
-Red Dead: Redemption
-Bioshock (1 & 2, possibly Infinite)

I'm gonna have to disagree with this one.
RDR was a crappy game.
It was pretty, that's a given.
It had smooth mechanics, absolutely gorgeous settings, interesting characters and top class animations and voice acting.
But the actual gameplay was incredibly repetitive, traveling was an absolute pain and it's story felt like a deja vu.

To explain:
The gameplay was repetitive cause just about every mission turned out to be travel by horse with someone else in snail pace to destination, do some shooting with the repeater or rifle as shotgun's are crap in long range combat, sniper rifle is crap on consoles, rope doesn't do any damage, and enemies are too spread out to use grenades or molotovs.
So it just became a repetitive shootout all the time.
Now now, there are different missions, like that one where you at first have to sneak kill people with throwing knifes.
But those missions are far apart and far too few.

Next is hunting, at first I loved it, going out into the wild, seeing a coyote and hunting it down. Phun tymes.
But then it became repetitive, boring and unrewarding.

Same with picking flowers.

The economy was broken as all you needed was pistol and rifle ammo which you got off of bodies by looting.

The minigames only served as distractions and quite frankly boring distractions. If I wanted to play poker I could just do that online, as for the other minigames like throwing horse shoes or whatever they're called, couldn't they just have developed them as online minigames or something? I just find minigames like that to be a pointless waste of time.

And then we had horses... They traveled way too slow, had to follow paths to get anywhere in a decent amount of time (And Mexico's path layout was horrible) and the damn [censored] clicking on the A button that Rockstar games have to do is annoying as [censored] hell and just ends up huring my thumb. (xbox)
So click click click click click click hold.... click click click click click click hold.... click click click click click click hold.... :shudders:

Now as to the story, what the hell am I talking about right?
Well, how many times haven't Marshton or whatever his name was said "Help me or I'm leaving"?
He said that in next to every mission I can remember, yet he, a former hardcoe bandit, just took it like the little [censored] that he is.
So after the first couple of them I started wondering "Well, are you gonna do anything or just whine?"
Turns out he liked whining and being dominated by everyone. Weirdo....

And Mexico was the worst part. Was some time since I played it but first I was after this first guy, Frank or Tom or Bub.
And when I finally get into that damn fort of his he hightails over to Mexico where I get dragged into a storyline that felt like a giant filler and all of the sudden they throw the next gang member at me and Marschmalleow starts looking for him instead.
And then when I finally find this new guy, Enrique or whatever, he gets captures *snaps fingers* like that. The pacing in Mexico's storyline was the abolute worst.
And the missions, again "Help me or I'm leaving" happened constantly over two opposing sides which I had no interest in.
And both sides always said "yeah, we're gonna tell you where Ricardo is, juuuuust after you do this one tiiiiiny thing for us."
But it wasn't just one tiny thing now was it.... It was dozens of medium to large sized things.. Dragged out for no reason.

So the storyline? It was like they had a great western story in mind at first, but when they started writing it out they figured "Oh crap, it's too short for a Rockstar game!" and they padded it out.

It's gameplay was boring.
Mars-Man felt completely out of character as to what he was supposed to portray.
Traveling svcked.
Economy broken.
Weapons unnecessary.
Red Cool Eyes With Slo-mo unbalanced.
Dragged out storyline.


It was pretty, the first and third part were great in it's cinematic aspects.
But the gameplay ultimately failed to deliver challenging combat or varying missions and the whole Mexico part was just absolutetly dreadful in every aspect.

RDR, for me, is an overrated piece of crap.


It's expansion on the other hand was a blast.
Not for it's brilliant writing, that was cheesy, but a fun kind of cheesy, like Braindead or Bad Taste.
Not for having varying missions, those were pretty much "kill stuff", but it was a simplistic fun which also challenged me with waves of the undead, all of which had their own type of combat type apart from the vanilla game where every enemy used rifle or repeater.
It's storyline was also pretty straight to the point, it wasn't long but it didn't have to be, it had what was necessary for the storyline, and I liked that.
It's animations, voice acting and scenery was still all just about perfect
And it's distractions also served a purpose, like finding the four horses of the apocalypse, or killing the Chupacabra.

So Undead Nightmare? I had a freaking blast playing that. It was a really fun, challenging, beautiful game.

But RDR, I honestly don't see why it's so highly praised.

Everyone always ignores my posts....


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And:

Mass Effect
Demon's/Dark Souls
Portal & Portal 2
MGS4
Valkyria Chronicles
Uncharted 1-3

...and many more.


There is definitely a problem with such a large portion of the VG consumer base being monkeys with short attention spans that are enamored with shiny things and flashing lights, but there is a lot of good developing still going on out there.

One great thing about older games is they have real replayability, and like alot of the games i buy now and bring home from the store and im finished in 3 hours, the local eb games is selling alot of old games cheap, and ive been playing one for over a month died alot and have to think my way through it, happy to have payed $8.00 for a game that has playability unlike paying $90.00 for a game that ive finished in a few hours and they expect me to give it playability by going online and playing multiplayer, oh yeah and the good old days of lan games.

All this talk of being Dinos seems ironically humorous to me, as most that don that title are in their 20s. I have grand children that are that age. Never the less, for me, Pong had a wow factor when it was born. I have always been attracted to gaming. I played off and on over the years. Being retired and looking for another hobby, I started playing again. 10 years ago I bought an xbox. Picked up a copy of Splinter Cell. I was back in the mix. Then the new wore off and I gave it all away.

5 years ago I bought a 360. I missed playing. I picked up a copy of Oblivion GOTY, on a whim. I had no idea what a Dunmer or a Daedra was. I have been enveloped in RPGs ever since. Not being a fan of FPS by any stretch of the means, I moved onto DAO. I rented a ton of others to find something similar. I had no knowledge of forums either. I tried ME2, after strongly urged by a friend.

"I know you are no fan of shooters, but it's an RPG and a shooter." he said. So I rented it and...didn't sleep or eat for two days.

Still being reluctant, and weary of FPSs, I had overlooked FO3. It was an RPG, but I refuse to play a game that doesn't offer a 3rd person viewpoint. It wasn't until late 2009 that I was told it was both. I was glad to hear it, because I was interested in it. The whole 1stP was throwing me off.

Now with a pile of series titles like DA, FO, TES, ME, Divinity, 2 Worlds.... I am making the move to PC very soon. I was just at the Steam store, looking for other games to take on. I seen the FO collection pack w/ FO, FO2 and FOT-BOS. I watched the trailers and was blow away. I see where some of you got your avatars. I can't wait to get my rig built. I am going to start from the first and play straight through.

Under no circumstances will I refer to myself as being a Dino in that respect. I am one anyway. You kids need not label yourselves as such. Just enjoy being young. You will bee old soon enough.

Congratulations, I hope you enjoy the classics. I'd also recommend that you give DAO a try on the PC, its very refreshing to see a clear PC to console RPG port instead of the other way around.

Note: You might not want to tell Gabriel77dan that he isn't a dino.

I plan on getting the DAO. I also plan on getting all of the earlier TES. I already have Arena and Dagfal, although that isn't saying much. Aren is just waaaay too choppy to get anywhere. I haven't ran Dag yet. I am also going to get FO3 and FONV. I have the 360 vers and all of the DLC but I want mods...lots of mods.

Speaking of mods...The FO2 trailer goes into the G.E.C.K. description. Funny how Beth refers to the Skyrim modder as the "Creation Kit". Like it is something new. I remember Todd talking about it prior to release. "It's what WE call the Creation Kit. And BTW...You can CLIMB that mountain."

As far as Gabriel...it doesn't matter. He is going to complain about it or something anyway.

Yeah, I'm 20 years old But we don't call ourselves dinosaurs because of our age, we call ourself dinosaurs because other people started calling us dinosaurs. The reasons is what we want in Fallout - the whole "stay true to the lore and canon of the older games" and that we want stuff from those games back like the original Fallout feel and story telling, writing of characters and the neutral morality of things, how much more your Statistics and Skills mattered in the game and how there were much graver consequences of your actions (unlike blowing up Megaton, Three Dog and your dad just comments it), how we would like the node system back or a hybrid of it and the sandbox system to be able to cover much bigger areas in the worldmap instead of a part of one city and the immediate area around it, and some even wishes for turn-based combat to be back although I don't agree with that (unless VATS gets a huuuge work-over and gets more like a turn-based match, although a lot quicker and keep the cinematic elements.)

And for that they said things like "people like you are extinct" and "that's not the future of modern gaming, it's too old and outdated", so yeah... we were like "ok, we're "dinosaurs" then". Nothing to do with out age, we just like much of the features of the old games more than what we got, or the version of it we got, in the new games (although FNV, with developers that worked on Fallout 2 and Van Buren, did things more right than Fallout 3 like the humor, the maturity, the grey morality, the quests etc.)

Now if you excuse me, I'm gonna go and play Myth II, that's one of the most badassest games out there, try it also from 1998, so don't let graphics put you off. It has dwarfs with molotov cocktails, and zombies.

Hm?
I'm literally a Dinosaur, of the Velociraptor kind.

I gotcha...However I am not familiar with what a "node system" actually is. I have played some JRPGs ( though not a real fan of those, I must say) But I found the turn based combat to quite the strategic challenge. I enjoyed it, as it fits my slow and lethargic playstyle.

I seen some snips of game play of FO and FO2. Not sure what the term is for the distant 3rd person view. (isometric?) But that will not keep from enjoying it.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Trollobite. Ha! Get it? Yea, I know it's bad