I feel religious rivalries is a good plot device for quests and story lines.

I want some of the ones who rebeled from the Empire to scoff at the notion that Tiber Septim was a God.



I hate how the two major religions (Aedric worship and Daedric worship) are basically just two polytheistic religions.

This is why i think there should be a different type of religion, monotheistic or just spiritual:

possibilities:

• Monotheist: The almighty creator made Tamriel and the other dimensions at the beginning of time. Worship Him and He may reward you in the afterlife
  
  
• Spiritual: You, me, and all the other people and so called "gods" and creatures are all part of the universe and we are all one. when we die our energy sustains other life and therefore BECOMES life blah blah blah... Reincarnation yadda yadda yadda.

I would like to see a nature based religion. Could you add that to the last question please?

I think that counts as a spiritual concept. I'll add Nature to the description

The lore already contains tons of interesting religions. I'd be happy if they'd introduce some of those instead of making up something entirely new.

I don't believe in God *awaits flaming*

On Topic: I like the idea of the Aedric religion splitting up, make interesting questlines.

+1 for idea

Oh, also might be a good idea to make it multiple choice.

yeah. i was originally just thinking "if only one was added" but multiple choice is probably better.

I don't even know how to really respond to this.

Reading Varieties of Faith is a good thing to do to start with. The gods are fairly consistent and it becomes more a matter of which gods are worshiped and how they are viewed. All mortals know of Lorkhan as the creator-deity, but worshiping him is silly. He's essentially dead. He can't do anything for you. The Dark Brotherhood is the example of this.


The first sentence is a description of CHIM but the second sentence is just death, and I think the vast majority of mortals are aware that that's what happens, unless ones soul is dedicated to a Daedric Prince.

See, the problem with your post is that in Nirn, the nature of the universe is much less of a mystery than on Earth. There's not a whole lot of wiggle room like you seem to be suggesting.

Religions take more then 200 years to die. We still know some egyptian and greek mythology today.

I know what you're saying, but I think they could have a religion that is obviously flat out wrong, since they may disagree with the visibly accurate religion that actually directly affects the world, but the practitioners obviously do not see it and have twisted reasoning and circular logic to explain their beliefs.

No not necessarily. what i was pointing out is that everything dies according to this spirituality (even daedric princes) and between death and reincarnation we are an equal "energy" that eventually inhabits another life, whether it be a daedric prince or a mudcrab.




and see what i did. I tried to make this religions work with the obvious, unmysterious Nirn.

If the Tribunal can become gods and die, then how can anything we,( the Nirn people), believe as god have unquestionable/ultimate power

Is there a power greater than these so called "gods"?

:P

But yeah, again, the problem is that most if not all gods that have any power in Mundus are pretty well established. There are obviously some who have varying beliefs and things like that, but as far as being full-fledged religions, there's a huge difference. The Dark Brotherhood's belief system is not at all popular and not large enough to really be recognized as a religion. It's hard to get a lot of support for a belief system that is just plain wrong to be accepted by society.


But Daedric Princes don't die. That's one of those hard truths that you'd have to be insane not to believe. But yeah, everyone who dies whose soul is not already up for grabs goes into the soul generator thing and gets spat back into the Mundus as something else.


Because the Tribunal stole power from the real gods and everyone knew it. The Dunmer worshiped them because they were heroes and were inspirational and were paving the way to make mortals ascend themselves.

Well...

Maybe not today. I won't go there.

:P Hard in Tamriel where most gods are undoubtedly real!

This thread makes me cringe and writhe in pain.

The nordic pantheon WILL be the dominate religion of Skyrim, it has always been that way. It is a pantheon that largely needs to be explored, as we have only really been force fed the [censored] 9 since Daggerfall, and a big serving of the dunmeri religion in Morrowind.

Also, the nords largely reject the 9, for it is nothing but a watered down version of the merish pantheon, with bits of man pantheon sprinkled around and a 180 on Akatosh. It would be very unnord-like for a nord to be part of the nine, especially in Skyrim.

okay I'm definitely not a lore-expert here.... evidently. but do we know Daedric Princes were around at the beginning of times?

who created the daedric princes?

these are the kinds of mysteries that can create religion.

Jeeze, sorry this thread effected you so much... and in such a bad way...



oh nice. if there's already an unexplored mainstream religion here in Skyrim we certainly don't need ANOTHER new one, thatd be pointless. I didn't know this obviously or else this thread would be about the Nordic Pantheon

We do know that the Daedric Princes were around at the beginning of time. Who created the Daedric Princes? No one. The Daedric Princes spawned from Padomay, as did Lorkhan. The Aedric gods spawned from Anu.

Anu and Padomay are the driving forces of the universe. They are stasis and chaos.

These mysteries that exist in our world do not exist in Nirn, it's pretty well understood.

To be honest, the religion of the nine is only the dominate religion of 3 provinces, with everyone else believing in something else. However, all religions in TES have, roughly, the same gods, save for a few hero and culture gods here and there. Each religion has, roughly, the same creation myth, with differences depending on the perspective of the group that observed the events.

And really, read up on your lore. Read The Monomyth, Varieties of Faith in the Empire, and the Annotated Anuad (the Children's Anuad for a more basic story).

I dunno. People can have pretty huge brainfarts trying to convince people their way of thinking is right. Have you seen the article about evolution being false on Conservapedia (Wikipedia for conservatives)? Not only does it display an astounding lack of understanding of the theory of evolution, but also of basic maths (it assumes for some reason that each "reason" evolution is false has a 5% chance of disproving it and since they had I think 19 "reasons" so therefore there is only a 5% chance evolution is real. What if they had 40? Would it be a -100% chance it's real?).

EDIT: This is not saying that evolution could not be disproved, simply that people will grasp at the thinnest straws and expand them in order to make excuses for what they believe.

Myth of TES are real, that's the nature of the universe. All you are suggesting is unfounded guessing. There is so much literature in the series to suggest your point is not correct.

And, Velorien, you are incorrect. All daedroth, mortal, magna-ge, and all other et'ada are the combination of Anu and Padomay, with some leaning more with Anu and others more with Padomay. The altmer explanation is crap.

this is all based on literature found in TES no? by this logic, i could say everything in the Bible is true (which most people in Europe DID used to believe)

I want more heretical cults! Sure, you have you Daedra cultists, but we need some more diversity! Instead of gang wars, could we not have cult wars? My god(s)/spirits/pet rocks are better than yours, and the true rulers of this universe! Hazzah! Commence, killing? I'm currently rambling, so I'll end it on that note. The warring cults idea seems to have some momentum to it, in my opinion.

That's true. While it's clear they exist, without being around at the beginning of time, one could not know for sure if that is the true origin of the Daedra.

Big difference though. When we can speak to and see the Daedric Princes, watch a mortal tap into the power of Akatosh, take on his avatar, and defeat Mehrunes Dagon, and steal power from the Heart of Lorkhan, it stops being just literature and starts being scientific fact.