Don't know if this has been mentioned but the mead hall looks alot like a Fighter's (now Companions?) Guild hall. Notice the red banners with war axe on them.

People.......... The difference in graphics between console and PC will be VERY LITTLE, if any at all. In fact, I think Todd Howard said the consoles might actually look BETTER than the PC. Hold your breath, shut up about the graphics that this lovely company will pull together oh so easily, and enjoy the ride.

Have FAITH.

yo, this has already been said, but i think i'll add my two cents... those screens are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo epic. every new thing i see bout skyrim makes me want it more

People.......... The difference in graphics between console and PC will be VERY LITTLE, if any at all. In fact, I think Todd Howard said the consoles might actually look BETTER than the PC. Hold your breath, shut up about the graphics that this lovely company will pull together oh so easily, and enjoy the ride.

Have FAITH.

"Uh, no, it will look better on PC unless you scale down the graphics because your PC svcks and can't handle it. It will have higher resolution, greater distance view, greater resolution and the option of antialiasing, at the very least, on the PC. It makes no sense that it would look worse than consoles at top settings. "

Well, prepare for a shocker, cause I guess it'll make "no sense."

So yeah. It's pretty obvious what you're doing. No one is buying it. :goodjob:
Skyrim looks amazing, and it doesn't look like Ice Age. Only someone who is joking would say that, because it's laughable.
And lol@everyone who cries out for the best graphics possible in a TES game. That's not possible, not with current gen tech. And guess what? Most of bethesda's buyers are console buyers, proven fact.
They are going to cater to the masses, that's how you do this thing called making money. Logic. It's hard, I know. :rolleyes:

Also, open ended games like TES cannot have the top notch graphics available like TW2 and Crysis 2. Those games look that good because they are small. No game as big as the open world of TES has those kind of graphics, because nothing could run that. Again, common sense. It's a killer.
You are demanding something that is not feasable nor realistic. If you want a game that has no cells, 100% best graphics, and open streamless worlds that require no loading screens to do so, become a game engineer and do it yourself. You'd then see why people don't do that. With the tech they have to work with right now. It's. Not. Possible.

Mod anything, and it should turn out better than before, obviously. But the "vanilla version" of this game will be the same (nearly) on all systems. I remember in my head Todd Howard's voice saying that, just can't remember where he said that.

But I still don't buy some of the graphic flaws!

Because it all balances out. You have better "texture resolution" on your PC? The consoles have something your PC doesn't. Etc. There will be VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE. Don't expect the consoles to be buttbleeped and the PC to have all the glory. It won't be that way.

I'm defending console-users from all teh haters on their "lesser power."

Interesting...

But the giants shouldn't imo groom their hair. We'll just have to let Bethesda be creative on this one...

So yeah. It's pretty obvious what you're doing. No one is buying it. :goodjob:
Skyrim looks amazing, and it doesn't look like Ice Age. Only someone who is joking would say that, because it's laughable.

And lol@everyone who cries out for the best graphics possible in a TES game. That's not possible, not with current gen tech. And guess what? Most of bethesda's buyers are console buyers, proven fact.
They are going to cater to the masses, that's how you do this thing called making money. Logic. It's hard, I know. :rolleyes:

What you call "graphic flaws" I call overly pessimistic and unrealistic. The game looks stunning for 2005 hardware.
If you want to change it, become a game designer and do it. Please. Entertain us with your amazing engineering skills. If the top people of the gaming industry can't make an open ended game like TES look like Crysis 2, what makes you think you can?
:rolleyes:

"Only someone who is joking would say something I don't agree with, because my opinion is totally objective and infallible!"
Just wow.

What you call "graphic flaws" I call overly pessimistic and unrealistic. The game looks stunning for 2005 hardware.
If you want to change it, become a game designer and do it. Please. Entertain us with your amazing engineering skills. If the top people of the gaming industry can't make an open ended game like TES look like Crysis 2, what makes you think you can?
:rolleyes:

My friend it can look better....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi4nfbfCKQM&feature=related

Assassins Creed is open world enough... You can optimize so that your game is massive and beautiful.

Also you don't have to have the console compute AI when your not visualizing it... NPC dont have to complete quests on their own when your not there. All that stuff can be done with some simple code logic.

So now that you have RAM free what should you do? Go back to the computer and draw up some better lokking textures..

But the giants shouldn't imo groom their hair. We'll just have to let Bethesda be creative on this one...

carefulnot2flaim,plz....

It's balancing out, and I'm sure that few people have "top of the market" computers, or went all out installing the newest tech on their boxes. The audience, aside from mods (which should be availible to the consoles by some degree [correct me if I'm wrong when I heard Todd Howard say that modding tools will be given to the consoles]) will all even out to the same sort of experience.

Assassins Creed? Lol.

...Anything? Nope. I'm sick of people who buy expensive PCs and think the gaming industry should revolve around them (as stated earlier.) Please.

Facts != opinion.
Herp.