Well-written? This is a hypothetical right because Fallout 3's story was not well written in the least.



Well this is just objectively wrong. Maybe your game is bugged or something but if you're vilified by the NCR they will attack on sight unless you're wearing an NCR disguise.



Yeah that was a serious consequence alright. It's not like I could still finish the game with good karma and be heralded as the savior of the wasteland. I mean Liam Neeson even had a whole line chewing you out for it before treating you exactly the same as he would've if you weren't a mass murderer. Some deep consequences right there. I was worried when I nuked the town that I might be unable to complete the Wasteland Survival Guide though. Good thing Bethesda realized that was a consequence too far. I mean there was an achievement tied to that.



Again I don't know what game you're playing. By the nature of the struggle everyone cannot win. You don't know what happened in the Mojave? Yeah you do you just don't know which of the endings are canon. Which is a [censored] thing to complain about. At the end of vanilla Fallout 3 I had no clue at all what happened to any of the people or towns I ran into. Nor did I have any clue what ending was canon. We still don't know what the canon ending is by Broken Steel. How on earth can you complain about NV's endings not telling you what happened? That's all they do.



You can side with whoever you want unlike Fallout 3 and there are countless choices and consequences. The very first real quest you run into gives you two fairly significant consequences depending on your choice: either destroy Goodsprings or nuke your reputation with the Powder Gangers thereby cutting off a whole questline.

One canon ending, yes, but gave us no insight to the future.

Even with Broken Steel there is no canon ending. I don't know whether the Lone Wanderer poisoned the entire Capital Wasteland or not. I don't know whether he nuked the Pentagon or not.

That's news to me. The Broken Steel I played followed up on every ending except the one where you do nothing and let the Purifier blow up. We don't know if the Lone Wanderer poisoned the water or not, we don't know if the Lone Wanderer sent Sarah Lyons into the Purifier instead of going in himself thus killing her, and we don't know whether or not the Lone Wanderer destroyed the Citadel and thus the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel at the end of Broken Steel.

DAMN YOU ALL!!!

Anyways, derailing...

Well... I did get to town (Nyk?ping) by bus, but the whole evening was just [censored] up :/
First I sit an hour on the bus, when I've arrived my girlfriend calls, says she and her friend is two hours late, so I wait.
Then when they pick me up, we go to the house of my girlfriend's friend's friend's friend (that is, I meet strangers, I'm not so much for that either)
Here is when the real [censored] part kicks in:
My girlfriend locks the car keys inside the car.
Inside there are her wallet, with the ID, her bag and her jacket.
We go in atleast, say hello to the new peeps, then everyone are about to go to the bar but she doesn't have her ID, so...
She stays. And I stay with her. In a complete stranger's house. She cries a bit, we watch TV, then go to sleep in the stranger's bed.
My girlfriend's friend went home with one of the other guys that we didn't know and slept over there. She was the one who invited us in the first place.
In the middle of the night, drunk unknown people begin to show up in this unknown house we're sleeping in, putting on music really high.
Well.... kind of awkward moment leaving the house in the morning. "Hi, unknown people. Thank you for letting us use your bed. We'll be gone now. Nice meeting y'all"
They did offer us hotdogs and vodka for breakfast, they were nice people, I'd rather we'd socialized with them under different circumstances... like at the bar, with the person that we know.

So my Valborg = NO BOOZE, NO BONFIRE! :'( I'll cry you a river. One hell of an adventure.

The following day, my girlfriend's mother drives here with the extra key - which of course is the wrong key they got from the previous owner(!!!)
Then it began to rain.
So we called for a tow truck/locksmith, he opened the car for us for a price of 1400 crowns (like 240 dollars) with thievish-looking tools.

Yeah, those are interesting questions and all, but what about Dunwich?

I say we nuke the site from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.

Dunwich... wasn't that the place with the singing muppets and dancing pink elephants?

Thats why it was so scary. :cold:

So...many...catchy......songs.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA90IlymdZ4&feature=related

Yah sure... :spotted owl:

Great, now I'm going to have this in my head like some kind of catchy elevator music. :cryvaultboy:

Fallout New Vegas is less canon because it has a more civilised" post-nuclear world? Did you even play Fallout and Fallout 2? Did you not notice how the people were rebuilding and making things civilised in Fallout and it was even more so in Fallout 2? There was no radiation everywhere. If anything Fallout 3 is less canon for making everything as if the war happened yesterday and not 200 years ago. And don't give the this crap that "Bethesda is the knew guy so what they do is canon." They should have followed what was set out in the originals when it comes to the game world. Fallout 3 does not over ride that. New Vegas is more civilized because it would not make sense to have it like it was in Fallout 3. New Vegas continues the story of a growing NCR. Things becoming more civilised, even with Caesars Legion. Because its human nature to want to rebuild. Not live in ruined radioactive mud holes for 200 years like the people of Fallout 3. Fallout is about people rebuilding and dealing with other cultures also rebuilding, "war, war never changes."

Edit: I am not saying Fallout 3 isn't canon. Just saying it seems very out of place to me. Out of the 5 canon games Fallout 3 is the odd game out, IMO.

The powers that be must've had something against you that night/next morning.
It'll at least be a fun story to tell when doing a "Who's _____ was the worst".
Me myself and I stayed at home since everyone was out at some bar and I had no money for entrance or alcohol.
Got two dozen messages on my phone of people going "Man this is so fun, you should have been there!" and me going "Yeah, I'm sure it was fun, thanks for rubbing it in."
So my Valborg svcked.

This ^

Another one of these people that think Fallout started with Fallout 3 :facepalm:

Fallout 3 isn't the first Fallout? O___O?

Yup, that was definitely my experience with the Dunwich Building. That is sooooo canon.

It s pretty safe to say he didn t nuke the pentagon, the fev was too weak only a few people got sick in some towns if you put the virus in. People would have been dropping like flies if it worked like Eden said.

A 6.5. Really?

to be fair, I gave them a 7.0, and New Vegas a 8.0

Personally I felt there were insufficient misery levels in Fallout New Vegas...

For me it's:

Fallout 3
As a game: 6.5
As a Fallout game: 2
As a true Fallout game: 0

New Vegas
As a game: 5 (Worse cause of the bugs, if it wasn't a Fallout game I would probably be too pissed at the bugs, glitches and freezes.)
As a Fallout game: 7.5 (As a Fallout game I can honestly look past the bugs.)
As a true Fallout game: 1.5

(True Fallout game; is a Fallout game that is as much as the older games as possible, New Vegas did not have a map node system and only one real town, it did not have a shred of meaningful SPECIAL when compared to the older titles, it did not feel as dark as the older titles, too few skills, too unbalanced and it had no turnbased combat, so Fallout: New Vegas was to me "The best out of a bad situation", it's basically the best thing that Obsidian could produce as they had to make the game similar to Fallout 3.) /opinion

I think this game was called Gladius........turn based, map nodes You were some Roman soilders and some gladiators. About half way through the game you find the mighty "savages" of the north. Romans were not real big on savages, so your second in command (who was bad ass) tells you if you pick up the savages he s leaving, and he s taking some men with him. You can t talk him out of it no matter what. The savages have alot to offer, and they have the same overall game goal you do. This was a hard (choice)..........

If you take the savages later on you run into your old second in command and his new group. A fight to the death takes place where you have to kill him (consequence) Either way the ending of the game was still the same. So this delusion that rpgs must have 4 half ass endings is bs.

NV has to give me a pop up to tell me "NCR won t accept my help if I countine to help House" A pop up??? Are you [censored] kidding me? A pop up...... Great writing............ a [censored] pop up.

tl;dr version: They changed it, therefore it svcks.

Basically. Reminds me of Dragon Age / Dragon Age 2