New Vegas is pretty desolate for a wasteland : Fallout: New Vegas

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:37 am

I've recently watched all of the videos for the game so far and i've got to say, i'm not impressed with the decoration of areas and scenery one bit; there is absolutely no rubble or ground clutter or random items anywhere and as a result it looks as if alot of the areas shown were made by some amateur in the G.E.C.K. in under 30 minutes.

What i'm saying is that it looks too clean, it's as if the bombs dropped and after they'd dropped they decided they shouldn't leave the place they just partied on down into in such a mess and pulled out a dustpan and brush.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:56 am

No nukes dropped in the immediate vicinity of Las Vegas, leaving it relatively unscathed.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:47 am

whell they will most likely have more stuff in the real game. but i have to agree that it looks a bit to clean for a desert in vegas after a nuke

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:58 am

I've recently watched all of the videos for the game so far and i've got to say, i'm not impressed with the decoration of areas and scenery one bit; there is absolutely no rubble or ground clutter or random items anywhere and as a result it looks as if alot of the areas shown were made by some amateur in the G.E.C.K. in under 30 minutes.

What i'm saying is that it looks too clean, it's as if the bombs dropped and after they'd dropped they decided they shouldn't leave the place they just partied on down into in such a mess and pulled out a dustpan and brush.

Well, keep in mind that New Vegas wasn't directly hit by the bombs and thus, things are much less... Messy in the area than the Capital Wasteland...

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:21 pm

I've recently watched all of the videos for the game so far and i've got to say, i'm not impressed with the decoration of areas and scenery one bit; there is absolutely no rubble or ground clutter or random items anywhere and as a result it looks as if alot of the areas shown were made by some amateur in the G.E.C.K. in under 30 minutes.

What i'm saying is that it looks too clean, it's as if the bombs dropped and after they'd dropped they decided they shouldn't leave the place they just partied on down into in such a mess and pulled out a dustpan and brush.

Dear God it's been over 200 years in a zone populated by many factions and the place was never directly hit anyway it makes sense people decided "This place looks like [censored]"and cleaned it up.

EDIT: Semi-ninja'd by two people.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:19 am

lol, these people are all correct. The place was not hit by a bomb, only destroyed by time. I guarente the game will look great, you need to look at more videos and photos.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:30 pm

Things aren't going to always look like absolute crap we as human beings have an uncanny knack of being able to pick up the pieces and make lemonade out of lemons. As stated the bombs didn't drop in the immediate vicinity of New Vegas so that explains the amount of vegetation and creatures that abound plus its been 204 years since the Great War that annihilated the world, things are going to start getting better we aren't in as much of a desolate world anymore. :tops:

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:20 am

Desolate for a wasteland? Amateur design? WTF? :laugh:

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:20 am

Dear God it's been over 200 years in a zone populated by many factions and the place was never directly hit anyway it makes sense people decided "This place looks like [censored]"and cleaned it up.

Pretty much that. This area has seen about 150 years of constant rebuilding, not like those narcoleptic folks over in DC. Rubble we won't see, but what I've seen of Mojave looks like the Mojave. But I like "desolate for a wasteland".

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:23 am

One day I'll have to write an essay on the overuse of the word 'amateurish'.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:41 pm

Yeah, your right. That desert is pretty deserted. What the hell were they thinking?

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:14 am

New Vegas wasn't hit.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:32 pm

Seriously, i'd just wait till you play the game before you decide how you feel about its scenery and aesthetic designs.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:14 pm

Pretty much that. This area has seen about 150 years of constant rebuilding, not like those narcoleptic folks over in DC. Rubble we won't see, but what I've seen of Mojave looks like the Mojave. But I like "desolate for a wasteland".

Yea its a desert people. And also there is Vegitation in this as you will see if you buy the game, but if you don't buy the game cause there is no rubble, your pathetic. This guy is right the citizens have rebuilt and cleaned up what they can. They made it this way on purpose but the lighting, the terrain, and the vegitation makes up for the rubble that only causes lag. The rubble in fallout 3 was just a round mesh with a picture on it. There are moutains, snow, trees, large overgrown plants (Due to no treatment) Non raidated water and radiated water.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:58 pm

Seriously, i'd just wait till you play the game before you decide how you feel about its scenery and aesthetic designs.

I would but... then it'd be a waste of ￡25 if it was shoddy.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:43 pm

Yeah, your right. That desert is pretty deserted. What the hell were they thinking?

That since a massive explosion didn't destroy anything in New Vegas, they should just show most buildings ragged and torn apart by time and war?

Yea its a dessert people. ~wastelander24~

Tasty P=

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:31 pm

I agree with you OP. A lot of the stuff I've seen does look like some random guy's GECK work. I'm just hoping that there is actually more detail in the final product and I'm sure there will be.

We know the bombs weren't dropped on Vegas, but we still want the game to feel post-apocalyptic is what we're saying everyone. And as of yet we have no idea what Obsidian has done to make that happen. I liked the clutter and hopefully whatever the Wasteland is filled with now still keeps the general feel FO3 had as opposed to a more RDR look.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:13 pm

That since a massive explosion didn't destroy anything in New Vegas, they should just show most buildings ragged and torn apart by time and war?

Wow you have a oversized ego. Even if the buildings were not warn down, wich they are i have seen the buildings in towns, why would you not get a very large expansive game like F:NV. Think about it. Thats like saying im not getting Call of Duty cause there tanks look bad.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:14 am

How different would a desert look after a nuke? Let alone 200 years after it?

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:32 pm

Yea its a dessert people. And also there is Vegitation in this as you will see if you buy the game, but if you don't buy the game cause there is no rubble, your pathetic. This guy is right the citizens have rebuilt and cleaned up what they can. They made it this way on purpose but the lighting, the terrain, and the vegitation makes up for the rubble that only causes lag. The rubble in fallout 3 was just a round mesh with a picture on it. There are moutains, snow, trees, large overgrown plants (Due to no treatment) Non raidated water and radiated water.

Yup, we have brown pudding, yellow-ish pudding, pudding with water, pudding on the streets, some with mutants to its side and vanilla on the top... That's a lot more varied than F3 ever managed with its rubble and grassland pudding.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:24 am

Dear God it's been over 200 years in a zone populated by many factions and the place was never directly hit anyway it makes sense people decided "This place looks like [censored]"and cleaned it up.

EDIT: Semi-ninja'd by two people.

And they put all this crap that they cleaned up where exactly? Did it all just magically disappear into thin air? There must be piles of this junk somewhere.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:30 pm

I'd be glad that some obsessive compulsive bastard picked all the crap up.
Looks better that way.

How different would a desert look after a nuke? Let alone 200 years after it?

Glass, and lots of it.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:48 pm

I would but... then it'd be a waste of ￡25 if it was shoddy.

I think that may be the reason retail stores have return policies.

And they put all this crap that they cleaned up where exactly? Did it all just magically disappear into thin air? There must be piles of this junk somewhere.

To build walls to protect cities, use things for repair jobs, heck even to build the cities themselves, there are countless uses for the things we call "junk".

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:43 pm

I agree with you OP. A lot of the stuff I've seen does look like some random guy's GECK work. I'm just hoping that there is actually more detail in the final product and I'm sure there will be.

We know the bombs weren't dropped on Vegas, but we still want the game to feel post-apocalyptic is what we're saying everyone. And as of yet we have no idea what Obsidian has done to make that happen. I liked the clutter and hopefully whatever the Wasteland is filled with now still keeps the general feel FO3 had as opposed to a more RDR look.

The game will feel post-apocalyptic. Even more then fallout actually. Fallout 3 had no vegitation but the Oasis. But in real life radiation would only kill vegitation for a while then would weaken and plants would begin to grow. Yes there wont be rubble, but i bet you will run across raiders, and other factions that have trashed the place. The only places i seen that are clean are the strip, and some old guys house. The rest of that cluter causes lag. I saw a video when the NCR and you rushed a CL captured town. The place was trashed.

» Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:43 pm

Glass, and lots of it.

Still after 200 years of wind blowing sand all over? Better not walk with bare feet.

Anyway, what kind of junk do people want to see on the ground? I don't understand what has junk got do with post apoc in a desert that wasn't even hit by nukes.