And for those people who say New Vegas isn't supposed to be a sequel but a entirely new game, check Wikipedia about Fallout... In the main series it has Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas. In the spin-offs (and if there are people who say that Fallout: New Vegas isn't a sequel well then F: NV should be here...) there is Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel.
I know everyone can change Wikipedia but it is usually right...
And although a sequel is a game that progresses storyline it is also a game that improves over it's predecessor and for me Fallout took a step back with New Vegas :S

I'm sorry but I do not agree with your pleads.

Other than the location and exploring, Fallout 3 svcked...

Reputation was much needed, multiple endings are wonderful and a not linear path is required.

Fiends are raiders....

Bethesda did not make the game.

And Mr. New Vegas is a real person, just he is called Mr. Las Vegas, he even voiced in Fallout New Vegas.

New Vegas has NOTHING to do with Fallout 3, it has everything to do with Fallout.

If Bethesda makes these changes I will destroy you...

JK...



I'm going to add this since you seem like the person that wants these:

No. There should not be BoS DLCs, no enclave, no zombies, no aliens, no multiplayer, no ties with Fallout 3, no super lasers, no drivable cars, no planes, no Co Op, no pre war, no invincibility, no more dumb DLCs, no energy swords, no energy shields, no Europe, no Japan, no space ships, no moon, no jet boards, no rocket shoes, no jet packs, no "just bottlecaps" DLCs, no "just weapons" DLCs, no dual wielding DLCs, no traveling to Oblivion, no DLCs that allow fan made mods for your PS3 or Xbox, no Chinese invaders, no CoD ports, nothing related Halo, no play-after-you-beat-the-game DLCs, no DLCs that add animals to the game that you can have has pets, no pet stores, no DLCs that spawn an identical copy of the Strip so you can continue gambling after you break the casino banks, no dinosaurs, no hover cars, no celebrities("I want Jessica Alba"... why in the hell would she be in Fallout???), no DLCs that allow you to put your ipod playlist into the game, no nvde DLCs, no level 100 cap DLCs, no giant robots, no teleporters, no time travel, no parrots, no presidents brought back to life, no GTA references, no there will not be a DLC that allows you to travel to the world of Family Guy, no rap, no plastic bubbles, no submarines that you can drive and raid base with because it turns out they have the power to fly, no perk that allows you to fly, no flying period!, no casting fireballs, no cheat terminals, no mutant jelly fish that you can have as a companion...The list goes on.

Basically: You want the game to be worse.

We don t know which one if real. There r 3 main endings that could possibly count. Yes man can not count. 2 of the other 3 endings are fake. Which one is real???? When will we know???? This doesn t bother u at all??????? really???? Its all fine and dandy to not know the ending of a story when you r done????

I'm sorry but I do not agree with your pleads.

Other than the location and exploring, Fallout 3 svcked...

Reputation was much needed, multiple endings are wonderful and a not linear path is required.

Fiends are raiders....

Bethesda did not make the game.

And Mr. New Vegas is a real person, just he is called Mr. Las Vegas, he even voiced in Fallout New Vegas.

New Vegas has NOTHING to do with Fallout 3, it has everything to do with Fallout.

If Bethesda makes these changes I will destroy you...

JK...



I'm going to add this since you seem like the person that wants these:

No. There should not be BoS DLCs, no enclave, no zombies, no aliens, no multiplayer, no ties with Fallout 3, no super lasers, no drivable cars, no planes, no Co Op, no pre war, no invincibility, no more dumb DLCs, no energy swords, no energy shields, no Europe, no Japan, no space ships, no moon, no jet boards, no rocket shoes, no jet packs, no "just bottlecaps" DLCs, no "just weapons" DLCs, no dual wielding DLCs, no traveling to Oblivion, no DLCs that allow fan made mods for your PS3 or Xbox, no Chinese invaders, no CoD ports, nothing related Halo, no play-after-you-beat-the-game DLCs, no DLCs that add animals to the game that you can have has pets, no pet stores, no DLCs that spawn an identical copy of the Strip so you can continue gambling after you break the casino banks, no dinosaurs, no hover cars, no celebrities("I want Jessica Alba"... why in the hell would she be in Fallout???), no DLCs that allow you to put your ipod playlist into the game, no nvde DLCs, no level 100 cap DLCs, no giant robots, no teleporters, no time travel, no parrots, no presidents brought back to life, no GTA references, no there will not be a DLC that allows you to travel to the world of Family Guy, no rap, no plastic bubbles, no submarines that you can drive and raid base with because it turns out they have the power to fly, no perk that allows you to fly, no flying period!, no casting fireballs, no cheat terminals, no mutant jelly fish that you can have as a companion...The list goes on.

Basically: You want the game to be worse.

Because Bethesda gave Obsidian only 2 years to develop the game, they used the same engine and tweaked it again at the point of not supporting it anymore

So let me get this straight. You dislike factions because joining them makes some stuff unavailable to you? it's completely logical. This is not Diablo 2 where you could do an completionist run and become a powerhouse demigod in 1 single playthrough, ever heard about something called "replay" value?

2 years is still a long time dude. Hell the cod franchise makes there game in a year and its always good.(but the multi just gets worse). Since obsidian already had the same engine they should have had that much trouble then. They couldnt serously work out the Bugs now thats sad....It has more bugs than F3...

Unfortunately some people equate replay with playing the same character over and over when the term came out well before these games that never ended. If your on the same character your still playing not replaying, unless your going back to a save just before the end of the tutorial and change the character to different build. Pacman has replay value. You play till you die or beat it (if you can beat it), then you start over from the first level to keep playing.

Hell the cod franchise makes there game in a year and its always good.

edit -- beaten to it by smert

I like the sound of that. If you translated the name it would mean beaten to it by death. Hehe, I know, lame pun. Or joke, Or whatever. :sweat:

I'm not making myself clear... I lik choices, actions and consequences and different endings. What I don't like is that because of it, I can't play parts of the game. If i want to play those parts, I've to build a new character, and I like only just one character with everything done...

Yeah, I'm a bit sick of this "they only gave Obsidian two years to... blah blah". Two years! That's a LIFETIME in gaming terms. Considering the engine was already written, the Geck was already written, and the devs had BOXES of story material already written. Sure, I'm not saying it wasn't a mammoth task to come up with the quests and people and such, but two years is more than enough time to make a game like New Vegas. I bet the people writing World Of Pain or Real-Time Settler or Marts Mutant Mod could come up with a whole game in that timeframe, let alone a company like Obsidian. Yes, they delivered, yes, they earned their pay, but don't make out like it was some supernaturally amazing feat to deliver the game in two years.

If Obsidian had written a completely new Engine, new development tools, a story from scratch, THEN I would say "wow!". But as it is, I'll say "great job everyone". Kudos, but not worship :hubbahubba:

My only beef with going to NV from F3, is the fact they should have removed Karma entirely. There is no point to it. Reputation basically takes it over. If you want to be "evil", people just don't like you and you fail 15 quests a minute. This isn't F3 where your evil choices can reward you with a Tenpenny suite, a raider for a companion or to be able to loot shop keeper's bodies.

1. And for if it's Fallout just be the same as it the predecessor. Like I said If it ain't broke why fix it?
2. No one cared that there weren't multiple endings in FO3.
3. Obsidian makes a Fallout game that has multiple endings and suddently it's biggest thing ever...

Why don't you go and ask the devs them selfs what took all the time, if two years is - in fact - such a long time to develop a game this complex.

http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer I'm sure he'll happily answer to good questions about videogame developement.

Indeed, 2 years might look "enough" by todays standards, when you look at the cheap single player experiences like Battlefield or hell, even that abomination OFP: Red River.

But an complex, story driven, open-worlded RPG? [censored].

Sure, they had Gamebyro engine. That still doesn't mean 80% of their work was only goofing around with the scripts. They had to rewrite the armor system, add new stuff, hire MUCH more voice actors, including some celebrities and heck, do the whole audio production, either re-use or think of some new concepts, have ACTUAL writers do their job, think of a new plot etc.. and some effort might have gone into marketing stuff too.

Now to code and programm that [censored], get past the "Playable", "Alpha" and "Beta" stage , Quality Assurance and prepare for the Gold build.

2 bloody years is definetly not enough, for an RPG. See Dragon Age 2.

Agreed.

But I do have to mention Fallout 2. It took Black Isle about a year to make it, and it is MILES above Fallout 3.

Indeed, 2 years might look "enough" by todays standards, when you look at the cheap single player experiences like Battlefield or hell, even that abomination OFP: Red River.

You know... Fallout took 3? years.