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I live in a city where ? the buildings are still boarded up. For months there was a city block (what used to be a park outside of our City Hall) where people "lived" in sleeping bags; I'm talking around 500 people and no toilets in the down town Central Business District. This was months and months after the the city was stabilized; Back then there were entire neighborhoods of abandoned houses to choose from. :shrug:

**Also... There ARE people living in the Vegas storm tunnels even today ~that's likely why its even shown in the game at all.

The Strip was kind of bland, but I got what I expected out of the surrounding area. It is in a desert remember.

Ever been to a desert at night?

I haven't, and even I know they get cold.

I wish Gamebryo could manage more people

I also hate that there are 'checkpoints' throughout New Vegas, which really decreases the size of it. I suggest making Freeside + New Vegas a 'generate-as-you-go' area like the Mojave Wasteland, rather then loading it all up at once.

Gets rid of checkpoints and makes it feel a whole lot bigger, doesn't it?

Heck theres Ski resourts within a hours Drive of Vegas.

Thus my point. Basicaly if new vegas was spared the worst of the destruction the reality is that within a year or so you start haveing problems keeping houses warm in winter and cooking food (aparently gas in some form or other was widly avalible given how comom pilot lights are, however given the disruption of the economy created by a "all out" war where everyone was shooting at eachothers citys(and not the actual warplans that both sides in the cold war had. . . IE targeting the other sides nukes,*) whatever was going to thoes pilot lites was not going to last very long. Especialy given the kind of infrastructure you have nowdays to suply gas in the first place (which is also why I go with the "200 months" not 200 years, the bodys of cars sitting out that long would not be rust but dust after 200+ years considering the body of a car is mostly sheetmetal)


* Ironicaly when we showed both Russia and China our "piecuter" charts showing probabl casualies from a "Nuke Vs Nuke strike that specificaly excuded targeting cities, they originaly thought that the US Fatilty estimates were high, in fact they originaly thought we were deliberatly overstating things untill THEIR specialist realised that we were being conservative and assumed that among other factors that all "Neutalised" warheads would be efectivly contained, Just haveing 3 missles hit durring launch would have had the effect of drasticly increasing fatalities from vaporised bomb components that would not reacted but would have captured neutrons and thus radicaly increased the Radiation. For one thing, if another warhead was between 12 and 70% fireballs radius from a 3 MT detonation, the initial low energy neutron pulse from the warhead would have converted between 10-90% of U-238 to U239 then to Np 239 then Pu 239, however long before that point said warhead would be plasma, most assumptions I have seen seem to feel that inside that radius the fireball would "cook off" the nuke, outside that radius the initial neutron pulse was dispersed enough to not triger the chain reaction or to triger a "Fizzle" reaction that would have allowed the warhead to "slow burn". however the Ideal was that each nuke hit would either neutralise the warhead in ground or hit an empty silo. you get the impresion reading some of the old cold war matierial that they were, lets be blunt, mildly nuts on both sides. :facepalm:

I was never excited about the setting for the new Fallout game...New Vegas. I was excited about a new Fallout game. Yeah. :yes:

Generally, all the built up areas are as bland as each other. Freeside has about 5 buildings you can enter and the rest are boarded up and crumbling, surely one of the homeless people could move in and maybe have a name?

The strip is a good size in my opinion, not too big you get lost, and not too small it looks silly. But it still could have included a general store or something? The nearest gun store is the laser place, you will proberly kill them, so that leaves either Mick and Ralph's or the Gun Runners. Both relatively far away.

Can't compare a modern world where you have to pay taxes and etc when you live in most any building you find to the post war world where you can squat in the biggest damn building you see as long as you can hold your claim to it. In a lore sense, I'll go and call the storm drain livers and boarded up buildings the same as the negligence of the D.C. Wasteland, IE laziness and unmotivated to try.

Uh-oh :bolt:

I was disappointed at the lack of interplay between the 3 families on the strip. The best you get are the 3 quests from Mr. House and/or Yes-Man to "solve" the casino's problems. At the Tops you "deal" with Benny and a minor side quest to recruit talent. At the other two places you have some sway over the end results of the quests, but its still one quest and maybe a minor side quest (depending how you play it) at each place. I was hoping for more quests pitting family against family like old school 30's type gangsters.

Indeed, would have been happy to see New Reno level of quests. Plus have a few that revolve around incidents between them. (like the wright family quest in New Reno.)

Same goes for "old" Vegas in real life....

There, I said it. Somebody had to.

The Strip is disappointing. For me, it was mostly because I expected this large contiguous area but instead got a handful of parts-of-Vegas complete with load screens. It seems to me that there is a lot going on with quests from the casinos, and that's cool. My gripe is not with lack of Strip content, it's with the load screens.

The load screens really, really kill the whole Strip experience for me.

get the mod that makes it all one piece?

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37566

Hopefully the new Bethesda engine is better at handling larger groups of NPCs, as this would in turn facilitate much more elaborate cities.

its small, all the action seems to be happening behind those barricades (what the heck is screaming? and how much glass does freeside have to smash?)

it also becomes rather useless once you clean out the strip's casinos.

theres also no shops, and i cant find a dang reloading bench inside new vegas.

so, when the game says new vegas, it means the area around it. new vegas itself is way too small, theres what, 4 sectors?

it would have been nice to see the strip actually made to look like Vegas, instead of a few giant walls and 3 casinos to gamble in. But the devs needed to scale everything down. If they made the strip fully, it'd take up a quarter of the map!

It was fine, the only problem is "failure to do concept art justice."
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That looks impressive. Too bad I'm on a 360. Might be time for me to start shopping for a new PC.

I agree, me and a friend were complaining to each other about how if you notice in the E3 demo, the strips walls were akin to the kind McCarran Airport has. Yet they changed it to that ugly billboard fasion. I much prefer the concept art Vegas to the ingame Vegas. Plus It's sad that Vegas isn't as bright ingame as the one in the teaser and the concept art too. :sadvaultboy:

Nothing is ever as good as it's concept art

Strongly agree.

IF IT HAD BEEN FALLOUT 3, THERE WOULD TOTALLY...

I agree with the thread premise, the strip feels full of possibilities but there's no interaction between the factions and it's little more than a series of mini-quests leading to the games conclusion.

I took a long time to get there the first time because I was expecting I lot more and was savouring the anticipation, it was a bit much to expect a mini-GTA once inside the strip but still, it was a bit of a disappointment.

as huge as Las Vegas it is, i couldn't believe how small New Vegas is..