Well as someone who has been collecting fire arms for about 20 years now, (yes i am old) i do not need caps or currency when i have a gun and you have currency and no gun, i have a gun and your currency now, lolz. Age and wisdom will always over come youth and enthusuasm lolz. Now if i was a true survival nut i would also invest in a crossbow or archery type weapon not for stealth but because arrows and bolts are recycleable for the most part. When the [censored]e hits the fan whether it is because bombs dropped from the sky, liars and cheats on wall street bankrupted the system, incompetint government, global warming what ever, THE entire species is just one missed food delivery away from crawling back up into the trees and our true suppressed natures emerging where the strong will prey on the weak. All i can say is if you come by my house you better come "cover two" and you had better hope you catch me sleeping, (i have trained dogs trained like police dogs, and if i start speaking German it is your ass). As an ant, the grasshoppers had better beware or be better armed or my dogs will be eating real good.

I do not think of it as a tutorial in a sense like a survival guide such as the anarchists cook book but it should teach you a few things, like if you need to shoot shoot for the face. Due to some desensitivitation it might remove a split second of hesitation in pulling the trigger, and that could be the difference in living. As a child i hated the many hours i spent in my grandfather's garden lostening to him drone on and on and on about corn plants, green beans, tomatoes, blah blah blah, but now looking back with some dirt and some seeds i will eat if i can survive long enough and protect the crops until harvest. Lot of ifs there but what would life be with out the IF?

Asai

now that is the first true insight of this thread.

Really....

If anyone plans to take what other folks have, just remember that there is always someone meaner than you out there, and they probably have friends. A lone wolf...any lone wolf...is going to be easy pickings, no matter how many guns and dogs you care to have. If you want to survive, have friends. Lots of friends.

Tutorial? if anything like FO3 happens, it's going to be worse beyond imagining.

No doubt the objective is not to fight but to convince the adversary to go for the easier pickings first. Since anyone of the disposition to prey upon the weak are essentially bullies, it is important to understrand who your adversary is, and if your dealing with bullies, gang banger thugs or wannabes they more than likely are going to look for the easy score. Bullies are essentially lazy, they do not want a fair fight, so deterence is also a valuable tool. A pair of 100 pound plus trained dogs giving you the stink eye hanging on my every, who know nothing but the training they have recieved and consider who ever i point at as food is deterent one. The next deterent is when your looking down the barrel of my ar-15, while my LBE (load bearing equipment) is stuffed to the gills with spare mags for my AR, Magnum Research deagle in .44 magnum (yes it is a bit impractical, but it is FUN to shoot) on my right hip and a 92fs in a quick draw holster tucked under my left arm. Granted i am a bit of a nut i do likes me guns, i did not buy them in preparation for some world changing event, mostly just because i like them. A gun is a tool that has only one purpose and that is to kill what ever you point it at, so while there are other things that work as well for killing a gun makes everyone and i mean everyone from the 12 year old little girl to frail 80 year old lady equal. Bang bang your worm food and i did not even break a sweat.

Asai

I agree it was just any cap not just nuka-cola. It just happened to be that nuka-cola was the most common. Anyone ever find an old bottle cap or pop can left outside of a year or more? The paint fades away. So after 80 years around the time of Fallout. I guess you can see where I am going with this.

New Vegas shows Sunset caps are also used.

So why not beer caps? I hope this gets fixed. I have something like 400 beer caps. I did not drink all those beers. My friends think I am weird picking though the beer cases and taking the caps :unsure:

I am not sure about one cap = one litre. Fallout America would still be Imperial.

I am pretty should a bottle of purify water = 20 cap, so more like 1 cap = 1 oz of purify water?

i don't think Video Games can help whatsoever. The reason for this is because they put you in certain scenarios where everything has to be pretty much exact. In a fallout you won't always have towns or vaults and people may not be terrible people and the mutants around you wouldn't be 200 pound roaches...

I think FO3 would prepare you better because it's an urban environment. Maybe. Chances are most people are NOT going to be wandering around in the desert. They are going to go where there is more shelter and places to hide. Personally I'd hole up in my house with all my guns loaded and ready. There are plenty of shopping centers around to go to for supplies. FONV wouldn't even prepare you for what it's like to REALLY be in a desert environment. You are not going to find bottles of purified or even dirty water just waiting for you in abandoned houses, maybe at first, but it won't last long. And that will be your main concern because it is really really dry in the desert and you'll need to consume mass quantities of water if you plan on walking anywhere. Which you wouldn't because it's harsh. Dry skin, chapped lips, sunburn...not fun. Plus you are going to REALLY want to know how to use a gun, which in reality a video game can't teach you. Videos games may give you somewhat of an idea of what it's like, but the reality is much harsher.

People take as much risk as their level of hunger dictates. it's not a function of being lazy, it's a function of need.

Gung-ho=dead fast.

It's an eye opener though, even what little that's relevant from this game will surely give a bit of an advantage against those that know nothing better.

I have become a master caravan player. I will rule the wastes.

Apparently I need to point out once again that, after the flow of supplies to a city shuts down, urban equals death. How many farm fields do you have in your city? Super high population density is only possible with the constant input of food from the places that grow it. Once you no longer have fresh food arriving from hundreds of miles away, you have absolutely insane numbers of people that are all starving to death together. It's going to get ugly.

As for water, how long do you think potable water is going to last in an urban environment after there is no power to run the pumps, filters, and treatment plants? Also consider that without power, the sewage system won't be working either. Why hello there Mr. Cholera, how have you been? We haven't seen you in a while.

You could survive after the majority of dying has ended by moving soil up a rooftop. Which would also be highly defensible, since you just have to knock out a few stairways and use ladders to get to your eyrie, which you pull up if attacked. Trap rainwater, maybe even toy with wind power since there's a good breeze up there. But this is only going to be a possibility after a few years have gone by, for the very lucky few who got out of the city after the bombs fell and then came back later for the good scavenging. Right after the event your first order of business is to get as far away from the city as possible with whatver tools you can carry.

if you made it through the vally of thosands and thousands of icbms not the bomb in megaton but masive chinese 20 megaton warheads you would the have to make it through rads. no rad away in real life last time i check. so youd need prussin blue and iodine but that wont save you if you get too many rads. all urban areas will be gone. dc lol none of that will be there melted. ok so you made it dont expect help from any govnt. agency they are mosty dead or ran. military that is left maybe a good place to go if you can find them. hospitals will quickly be over run most staff will be long gone the ones that stay will be killed by idiots that think they arn t doing enough. so you have some weapons maybe a few you trust survive. you d need to get aggresive get as many guns ammo food as possible even if that means killing people at first. then you d have to find a base type area i recomend a gun store. these areas will be hotly contested so again you will have to kill you fellow counrty men.

real life usage of fire arms is key. i fo your guy knows how to reload the weapon do you??? he knows how to put single rounds into mags do you???? he knows how to field strip his weapon maintain it clean it do u???? so its up to the people in you group that know these things to train the others quickly. then you go outside and there is a scorpion as big as an suv. you r going to crap your pants and hope u run faster than it. it would take weeks months to build the balls to face something of that nature. some could never do it. to me the key would be bringing in new people watching them for a period of time before arming them and building a force. then hit pharmacys for meds police stations for vests if a military base is still there and no soilders are at it you need everything that is there. some of the stuff no one will know how to use. people will die during trial and error but it must be done. i d steer clear of any soilders once you r part of a force they will be on edge.

soilders how to go about so combat the vests they wear most domestic weapons wont penetrate. the vests you got at the police station rifle rounds will blow through. so after that phase its all about building your force having leadership people that dont go with the program must be killed to prevent them killing anyone in the force. fo won t help you can t get shot in real life anywhere with no medical treatment. stimpacks or the toilet wont help and stimpacks are not here. the only thing video games can help you with is moving from multiple targets in a rapid motion fo doesnt provide that only on line fps aid in that because you r playing other real people not ai it just about your force being big dog. after that who knows because no one will save u they will steal and kill. your force is your only hope and just hope it has stong leadership. it will be scary joining a force but its really the only option id be really scared if i was a chick because with no law all the freaks will be out.