Well im not sure if you all heard but the xbox360 is getting a new disc format that is reportedly increasing the amount of data able to be stored by 1gb as well as adding a few anti piracy features. I wonder if Skyrim will utilize this disc format in order to squeeze all the content onto a disc for the xbox since the PS3 and PC's really dont have anything to worry about.

@PhYoshi - The 360 does not have enough internal memory. Of that most 360 gamers can agree. Hence hard drives were created by MS. I know with the amount of 360 games I have, I must have a hard drive to store all my game saves. That's just game saves, mind you.

I'm sure a mod will tell us to stop bickering soon....

I hardly think discussing is bickering.

In any case, the fact of the matter is that MS say no forced installs. The practical side of things, with hard drives being insanely overexpensive for what they are, makes not having one a perfectly legitimate choice. If you ask me whether I'd rather delete a few save files, or pay 200+% for a piece of hardware, I'll choose the former every time. That MS chose to release a HDDless model is a decision that no doubt plagues them to this day, but the moment they start segmenting their market they lose one of their biggest advantages - it's not going to happen for so many reasons.

Microsoft's new "disc format" that it is looking for beta testers to try out will provide more capacity to game data.
The disc that is being used by the Xbox 360 console will not physically change (this would likely be impossible anyway when trying to keep older consoles working with new discs.) Instead, a dashboard update will allow game developers to use more of a DVD disc's capacity to store game data.

While a dual layer DVD holds around 8GB of data, the game data partition on an Xbox 360 game disc only allows for 6.8GB of data. The rest of used for a video partition present on each disc and other data. By using a dashboard update to enable the system to read from a larger game data partition, developers will get about an extra 1GB of space.

Of course this pales in comparison to the 25GB a single layer Blu-ray disc provides for PS3 game development (or 50GB for dual layer) but it might provide some relief for developers who have questioned the use of the DVD format for the console since its details first emerged.

As games have become rapidly more complex with high resolution textures and countless high-quality audio effects and recordings, more storage capacity has been required. Some Xbox 360 games need multiple discs to store an entire game as it stands. It's unclear if 1GB extra will make that much of a difference to that problem.

Which you're not allowed to do on the only platform where it matters, because MS once sold a model of the 360 without a HDD.

It's an antipiracy thing, not a new format per se... at least that what I heard

Sounds like 1 extra gigabyte for Skyrim to fit in.

I'm pretty sure it was all going to fit anyways.

Maybe port some of the higher res textures from the PC to the 360?

I doubt this will be implemented in time to benefit Skyrim, though I certainly hope it would. 15% Extra Storage space can go a long way, since one of the key limiting factors of the Xbox360 games (And thus multiplatform games) is the amount of Data you can cram on that disc.

Well we aren't MS. And yes, it was a bad call to make a version without a HDD. I've known that since I heard of it. The larger disc sounds like a good call though.

No forced installs. No forced installs. No forced installs! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! :stare: I know.

You can't chop a game like Skyrim up and put it on more than a single disc. It just wouldn't work.

SI was installed on the hard drive

Well im not sure if you all heard but the xbox360 is getting a new disc format that is reportedly increasing the amount of data able to be stored by 1gb as well as adding a few anti piracy features. I wonder if Skyrim will utilize this disc format in order to squeeze all the content onto a disc for the xbox since the PS3 and PC's really dont have anything to worry about.

You can't chop a game like Skyrim up and put it on more than a single disc. It just wouldn't work.

And one thing to note is the regular double-layered disks aren't the only disks used universally across studios.

End of the day slightly good news although most of the new space are on the slowest to read part of the disk.

Then of coarse the buffed security.

Which you're not allowed to do on the only platform where it matters, because MS once sold a model of the 360 without a HDD.