The claims and counterclaims are getting a little too personal. Please don't accuse each other of being irrational or overheated or anything like that. That's the way discussions end up going out of control and having to be closed.

Possible? yes. Probable? Not hardly. Again, and I do apologize for this, he was not driving at reckless speed and stopped at each light. That is a critical point. People do this every day. It is possible that they could get into an accident, but then it is also possible a meteor could land on them. Yes, he should get the ticket, but then, that part was never really in contention, was it?

Stupid. Running red lights is of course a traffic violation, but if you are rushing someone to the hospital, I'm sure everyone would do the same thing as that guy did, even the cop.
I have seen cops run red lights and I have never seen a cop car that was not speeding, and I'm serious. That cop needs to lay off the guy.

Hopefully whoever I marry won't be so selfish as to want me to endanger the lives of other people just to save her

Don't get me wrong I'd do everything within my power to save her but if it meant potentially killing someone else because of something stupid I did I wouldn't even attempt it and I sure as hell hope she wouldn't want me to


Not probable?

Traffic accidents happen everyday and when you decide to play ambulance and no one hears your siren people are at a much higher risk for accident

How in the world do you translate "stops and looks both ways before running a red light" to "potentially killing people"? Just because he violated traffic law doesn't make him a reckless idiot.

I never knew so many intellegent people played fallout, lol... If i was that guy i'd ninja kick that officer in the balls L0L :wink_smile:

Again


(Edit: I'm just quoting Dogsbody so I don't have to type out my argument )

Just because he was "being careful" doesn't mean he still couldn't have caused an accident or missed some pedestrians crossing

Like I said he's playing ambulance and other people don't realize it and aren't paying as close attention to his vehicle.

He stopped at the light! How could he miss seeing a pedestrian? :ahhh:

You know what percentage of the American populace are involved in a traffic accident every day? .005% (based on 6,300,000 accidents per year and 309,000,000 people in the US, both of which are fairly recent statistics). Given that he was not driving more recklessly than the average person (and don't say he was, because nothing in the article suggests that he was) and given that while he did run two red lights, he checked both of them for traffic before he crossed the intersections, the odds of him hitting a person or a car were so small as to be negligible.

God how much longer until our cops are overly-cheery laser-armed robots? Too long.

Yes, but he didn't. You might not think that's an important distinction, but it is. Where, in the information made available, has it been said he was driving so incredibly dangerously? This seems like an assumption based on the relatively minor traffic violations, ie: the two red lights he ran. Was he even speeding? According to the arrest writ:

ASSAULT ON POLICE
DISORDERLY CONDUCT
REGISTRATION, EXPIRED
RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT
EVADING ARREST (FEL)
TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNALS VIOLATION
TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNALS VIOLATION

Shouldn't there be SPEEDING, RESISTING STOP, all this kind of other stuff, considering all the other trumped-up charges laid on him?

Show me the blatant disregard for human life, because I don't see it. Neither do any of us, since we were not there - as long as we're making assumptions, I would much rather assume that this trained medical professional, a combat veteran, knows a thing or two about responsibility and how to handle an emergency.

Yeah. I for one am not saying he should be above what he violated (traffic laws, for example).

But charges based on misunderstanding?

Obviously at first the officer thought "wow there's a wacko running a red light" (I don't think the officer saw him running the first one.....) and when the guy kept driving and got out of his car, the officer might have thought, "wow this guy is avoiding me, he might be up to something." Because, no doubt, the officer was aware of all possibilities. He has to. He has no idea if the guy he rushing to the hospital or trying to avoid a cop finding ten pounds of crack in his car.

HOWEVER, after surveying the whole situation, it should have been clear, "this guy wasn't trying to avoid me, he wasn't trying to avoid arrest, he was trying to get his wife to he hospital." And as the article clearly pointed out, the guy shows up to the police station and is like, "here I am, book me!" And he got turned away. Aside from an initial misunderstanding, this guy was fully cooperative the whole way through.

I sincerely hope our society is not at the point where we are unable to empathize with another human being and understand what they are doing and why. Because if we say, "well he didn't stop when the officer told him to stop 20 feet away from the hospital, he's obviously disobeying police authority, we should lock this wacko up!" then.... :shakehead:

This topic has become political and is terminated for cause.