when do yo think the next elder scrolls book wit come out and what do you think it may be about???

I suspect sometime before Q2 2011 and that it will basically tie up the loose ends in TIC. I also suspect that

wuts TIL?
did u mean TIC

The only thing I can think up of that could be abbreviated TIL would be The Imperial Library, a fan-lore site and not official (to my knowledge) so it probably was an error on his part...although the 'l' key is really far away from the 'c' key :glare:

Yeah, it was typo, sorry.

Hopefully something to wrap up the cliffhanger at the end of Infernal City.

As much as I didn't find the book itself very good... I found it entertaining in its own way. Has there been any official news on the second book at all? I can't find anything talking about it besides that one is planned, and that information is fairly old now.

I am outraged, I have read this "Best Selling Author's" rendition of Elder Scrolls. It is terrible, I Have been playing ES for ten years now, I am a writing major at local university. ES has actually been a big part of my life. I still play Morrowind GOTY atleast once a week. I have aspired to writing some Novels of my own based in the elder scrolls universe. I assure you all, my interpretation of the Legend and Lore is far more entertaining then this geezer who has never picked up a stick to make a character. Aside from all that, Where the hell is Umbriel, Never saw it, never read anything about it in the LORE HE MADE THE CRAP UP? He refers to Argonians as Lizard People and talks about were crocodiles, the guy is lame... I will be checking the message board after this post. The more who request an excerpt of my short novels then it is more likely I will post for viewing. Respond asap ES is in need of FRESH, YOUNG, and KNOWLEDGEABLE, WRITERS... ELECT ME THROUGH THIS SIMPLE PROCESS


Joseph L. Burton
Abcaliux Nalin - Breton - Battlemage -
Azel Nalin - Breton - Knight -
Falna Frostwynd - Dark Elf - Rogue
T'jizir Gran - Wood Elf - Archer

These are the heroes let me know if you want to know of their journey

Setting is Vvardenfell and Cyrodil, the two heroes from ES3 and 4 cross paths...
I plan to take the two prisoners from ES 3 and 4 and give them a solid set of identities.
There paths will be weaved together with a tale of childhood abandonment to all the way through both games story lines, electing a linear class skill and job set from the game and assigning it to them as part of their role in the 4th era now that uriel is dead, lets reset. Wipe this Infernal City crap... I got something you all have wanted

The witness (T'Jizir Gran) to Martin Septim's feats becoming the right hand man to Morrowinds Hortator (Abcaliux Nalin) they set out to find an heir to the septim line, they find that the empire may be over with and that oblivion is melding with living Nirn. The portals were the beginning, Dagoth Ur was not the bad guy, The Blight was the Three, The gates were purely a ploy by Camoran. Turns out Oblivions main gate is where dagoth was told to wait, turns out the Dwemer have been found... and it is not some TELEPORTING CITY its a realm of Oblivion that Kagrenac invented himself with the help of some Daedra like Sheogorath and Malacath... anyhow

Response and Critics desired...

Considering Bethesda told him partly what to do with the story and consulted with him, if anything was terribly wrong it would have been Bethesda's fault. And nothing was terribly wrong. In fact, I haven't even heard of anything extremely questionable (lore-wise) being in the novel. As far as most of the lore buffs are concerned, its very sound in the lore department (and were crocodiles, by the way, are real in TES. He did not make them up).

As for everything else, advertising isn't allowed here.

Oh boo hoo, go cry some more. It won't make the book any less "already written and published." And the funny thing is, you're here claiming that he made the whole stuff up and never made a character, and that he had no knowledge of the lore, it puts an egg on your face because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, he did play through Morrowind and Oblivion and spent a ton of time on TIL, and has absolutely no conflictions in his story with existing lore. Also, you're story idea is both unwieldly and lore-breaking because you are putting up your interpretations as fact when they are, in fact, dead wrong and far less interesting than the general lore buff consensus. (Also, there were no were-crocodiles in Infernal City, Annaig was imagining a skooma dealer was one. read the book before ranting).

So my criticism is, go and ignore the books if you like, and pretend all the stuff that it effects in later games isn't there, but don't pretend that you know more and better about a series than someone who is writing for it, and in the future remember the old saw that "it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it."


It wouldn't be so bad if the advertised "novel" sounded any good.

Seriously people, if you don't like the book that's fine, but you are not a professional author because you've written some fanfiction online. Despite what people think, it's not a grey ascetic loner typing whatever comes into his head and having it magically appear on store shelves. it's a business like any other, it's competitive and requires as much if not more regular human interaction than other businesses. Trust me, most of your "alternative novels" written now will be reprehensible after you've spent years in colleges and independent classes honing your craft, months at conventions and get-togethers to hand-shake with reprehensible bottom-scraqers from the publishing industry, and years writing a book between outlining, notes, world-building and actively doing it. It is not the cushy, lucrative non-job occupation people like to pretend it is in their little internal delusions.

To be honest, your idea tries too hard to answer old questions and build off of the previous stories. I don't think that The Infernal City is a very good novel either, it feels like a glorified fanfic, but I'm glad that Keyes drew from his own ideas and created some of the new lore. I mean do we really want to read what basically sounds like a MW/OB crossover?

"A glorified fanfiction" Extremely well put Stone, couldn't have put it better myself. Now I'm no author or anything,and personally I enjoyed the book. However, it did have a writing style reminiscent of some the very enjoyable Fan-Fics here on this forums. Once again, well said Stone. :celebration:

Yeah...not with that post you made right there. If you call yourself a writer you should look up to great writers, like Greg Keyes, not despise them because you envy their skill and even if you don't admire his work you should at the very least respect him :stare:

Hell, I'd buy books written by some of the better fan-fiction writers here and on The Imperial Library forums, mostly because their work is plain good, fan-fiction or not.

I'm an opposite-modernist. It's not the intent that matters when writing, it's the results.

the Words that Were capitalized and the ellipses which actually did not allude to any missing information but were used instead of a Comma made it a bit hard to read. I hope you have time to Change you Major... while you are Still young and Fresh.

I hope you could decipher my meaning amongst the grammatical foibles I learned by reading your post.

Sweet. Feedback.

Well here we go, ok I got answers through not asking questions. Also my punctuation svcks, but punctuation is not needed when you have a computer that proofreads for you...

My elipsis marks and commas are par for dialogue being turned into typing. I am not trying to get an A+ on forum etiquette. Sorry if you speak the name of each comma and period as you read it. That would make it difficult for me as well. I usually just read the words though.

and if you ever played a video game or watch japanese animation or read a comic strip or hell for that matter ever written anything, you would know that ... is a pause ... . . .. .. .. . .. .. .. ... . . . . ... PuNcTuAtiOn is FoR TEaChErS and thats what my professor says to let you know...

My major does not need to be changed.

If bethesda consulted with him then it still does not make it better.

Ole boy writes about some of the most boring stuff you could have chosen to write about in ES

Mai'q the Liar: Weresharks, yeah yeah but what I mean is There are ACTUAL RACES that are not Were races that he did not incorporate where did the monkey people go? ? ? why not bring them into this, where did the dragons go? Thank you for answering me about umbria maybe my confusion was just to much for me to handle when i posted yesterday, but either way... I just am PISSED lol I thought I was going to be writing something NEW and old guy beats me to it I am going to read some more of this book, I dont like it at all...

If i was bethesda I would rethink using this guys created lore for any game...

dude will ruin it like Britney Spears ruined being 18

thanks for the feedback :flamethrower:

Glad to know about the book sounding to cross-overish, it was only an idea.

I have decided to make a clean, fresh, idea... and possibly add new events

So will someone link me to the MOST RECENT events and if I am not mistaken we are in the fourth era right?

Wait wait, nevermind...


I abandon ES

I just read what this guy "Created"

Lame...

I read better books from morrowind in-game than what that guys got.

I lose... He wins

I hope bethesda enjoys Bombing their GEM of an RPG series Keyes ruined it for me...

Teleporting cities ... meet George Jetson!!!

lolololol!

I love how you ranted about it yesterday and read it after, apparently. Go ahead and abandon TES because it isn't how you would have written it. I for one won't miss you. Although of course most of the plot was written before any of us had heard of keyes, and most of it in Morrowind itself

:violin:

of course most of the plot was written before any of us had heard of keyes, and most of it in Morrowind itself ::::: EXACTLY and yes i have been reading excerpts and they are boring I cant keep my eyes on the pages long enough, everything is drawn out

Not much creativity when the guy USED EVERYTHING THAT ALREADY HAPPENED TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN HIS STORY

but ne way later all enjoy Elder Scrolls now that its Elderliness is starting to show...

Its survival of the fittest in the video game world and Tolkien did not invent ES although it was inspiration. I always thought TES was supposed to be original and as far away from Tolkien as possible...

Do the math you will see. You can not turn his "junk" into a game. It will not be fun.

Stop using caps. Also, this is not in a game, this is a novel. Yes, it would be dull gameplay, but it doesn't need to concern itself with that.

Also, you're calling him out on using old things now when earlier you said he made the stuff up. Now you're just trolling, not to mention you simply smashed together old things for your "novel," at least he made something of Umbra and the destruction of Morrowind.

Great job abandoning the series. If you were, you wouldn't be here. But every post you make just convinces me more you're just some trolling kid desperate for attention. Doesn't help that only half the post is coherent. There is no math here aside from "you whining about not liking a book you haven't read and harboring the conceit that you could do better than the book you still haven't read equals irritating waste of bandwidth."

This topic has not gone well at all. Everyone has their own ideas about how the novels should be written, Greg Keys, the author of The Imperial City is a very experienced writer who took a long time to research the book contents, confirm that the lore was correct (as much as it can be when writing a novel) and ended with a very readable and enjoyable book. However, Azel_Nalin does not agree and is entitled to his own opinions.

I suggest the Azel_Nalin goes away, researches the background and lore, which he obviously hasn't done, and writes his story. Then we can all judge it on it's own merit.

There is too much flamebaiting in this topic to let it go on.