Next Elder Scrolls will be on new system

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:15 pm

Todd Howard's comments at QuakeCon made it obvious that Bethesda is not currently working on the next installment of the Elder Scrolls. I know he came out and said that there will be one eventually, but Howard saying that Bethesda is "working on the next big game" and that we should not "expect another Elder Scrolls anytime soon" suggests that Bethesda is going to release something other than another Elder Scrolls game or Fallout.

Also, keep in mind Bethesda's track record for game releases.

Morrowind... XBOX
Oblivion... XBOX 360

There is no reason to think that Bethesda will pump out 2 huge RPG's for one system. Depressing for me, being a huge Bethesda fan. I really get tired of Bethesda's tight lip policy. It seems like somehow, someway, something would slip out. An ex-employee, someone that saw something they shouldn't have. Something. But we sit here, a year after Fallout 3's release and know nothing about what is going to come out.

The least thing they could do would be to give us the slightest inclination as far as what to expect.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:44 am

You said it yourself, they're being very tight lipped. But that doesn't mean they aren't working on the next Elder Scrolls game. Todd had two options, either deny that they were working on it, or confirm that they were working on it. And he chose to deny it. Don't give up all hope until they confirm that their next big game isn't an Elder Scrolls game. Besides, Bethesda has falsely denied things before. Take, for example, the DLC for Fallout 3. They said repeatedly that Broken Steel would be the last Fallout 3 DLC, when they were actually working on two other DLCs the whole time, evidenced by the name of Point Lookout being leaked even before Broken Steel was released. So, it's entirely possible that they are indeed working on an Elder Scrolls game, even though they've said they aren't.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:15 pm

Todd Howard's comments at QuakeCon made it obvious that Bethesda is not currently working on the next installment of the Elder Scrolls. I know he came out and said that there will be one eventually, but Howard saying that Bethesda is "working on the next big game" and that we should not "expect another Elder Scrolls anytime soon" suggests that Bethesda is going to release something other than another Elder Scrolls game or Fallout.

Also, keep in mind Bethesda's track record for game releases.

Morrowind... XBOX
Oblivion... XBOX 360

There is no reason to think that Bethesda will pump out 2 huge RPG's for one system. Depressing for me, being a huge Bethesda fan. I really get tired of Bethesda's tight lip policy. It seems like somehow, someway, something would slip out. An ex-employee, someone that saw something they shouldn't have. Something. But we sit here, a year after Fallout 3's release and know nothing about what is going to come out.

The least thing they could do would be to give us the slightest inclination as far as what to expect.


Have you forgotten the PC (the one where all 4 installments were on)? Besides, TES5 should just be on PC & PS3. PS3 seems much more reliable than the RROD 360, in all fairness. Besides, which console gets JRPG's? ;)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:51 am

I honestly believe they are already working on TESV now. Didn't I read somewhere that Bethesda said they planned to release two Elder Scrolls games during the Xbox 360 lifecycle? (Please don't ask me where I read that. Surely others here saw it too.) They'll release news on the next game when they want us to know about it.

Also, if you want to go with your Xbox/Xbox 360 logic, I offer this:

Morrowind: 2002
Oblivion:2006
TESV: 2010? 2011?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:11 pm

Have you forgotten the PC (the one where all 4 installments were on)? Besides, TES5 should just be on PC & PS3. PS3 seems much more reliable than the RROD 360, in all fairness. Besides, which console gets JRPG's? ;)


Don't even try to drag this into a console war. :nono:

I really believe that we will finally know what game Beth is working on by E3 2010. If E3 passes without a word from Bethesda, then that would almost certainly mean that they are developing TESV. Don't ask me where I'm getting this logic from, I just have a feeling.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:03 pm

Maybe if Oblivion didn't feel like it was catered to FPS kiddies to snub RPG fans of TES, on top of the high failure rate of the Xbox (compared to others), I wouldn't be this condemning towards it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:53 pm

There's no reason to bash any console. I don't understand it. I've been the victim of flawed console design and I've had computers die horrible deaths. In each case, I svcked it up and bought another and went on with life. I thought we were here to discuss when TESV might come out. Can we do that?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:13 am

There's no reason to bash any console. I don't understand it. I've been the victim of flawed console design and I've had computers die horrible deaths. In each case, I svcked it up and bought another and went on with life. I thought we were here to discuss when TESV might come out. Can we do that?


Okay, forget the consoles. I just don't want TES5 to be as shallow as Oblivion. It's utterly mind-boggling why they dropped the ball after all the great work they put into Daggerfall & Morrowind.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:37 am

Have you forgotten the PC (the one where all 4 installments were on)? Besides, TES5 should just be on PC & PS3. PS3 seems much more reliable than the RROD 360, in all fairness. Besides, which console gets JRPG's? ;)

Hey no console wars!

I honestly believe they are already working on TESV now. Didn't I read somewhere that Bethesda said they planned to release two Elder Scrolls games during the Xbox 360 lifecycle? (Please don't ask me where I read that. Surely others here saw it too.) They'll release news on the next game when they want us to know about it.

Also, if you want to go with your Xbox/Xbox 360 logic, I offer this:

Morrowind: 2002
Oblivion:2006
TESV: 2010? 2011?

Agreed it will come out I don't care if it's that last game for each system.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:57 am

Anyone live near bethesda employees? Try following them, or at least go through the garbage.

I live in Australia, so my stalking temptations are luckily dampened.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:01 am

As it stands the current gen of consoles are due to come to an end in 2012. So that gives them more than enough time to release another game on this generation of consoles.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:04 pm

As it stands the current gen of consoles are due to come to an end in 2012. So that gives them more than enough time to release another game on this generation of consoles.


Indeed, in addition they've always released TES games on a fairly accurate schedule.

Besides, how stupid would it be as a software developer to not take advantage of the current console market. After these years both consoles have developed a rather healthy population/followers; and will continue to grow (especially so if you consider the added life span for this generation of consoles).

Edit: I just hope the PC version isn't severely hurt from the lack of new console technology.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:49 am

Have you forgotten the PC (the one where all 4 installments were on)? Besides, TES5 should just be on PC & PS3. PS3 seems much more reliable than the RROD 360, in all fairness. Besides, which console gets JRPG's? ;)


actually xbox360 is the one tht gets all the dlc. im pretty sure the ps3 doesnt, correct me if im wrong. and xbox has its fair share of jrpg's now. including the next final fantasy.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:28 pm

If they aren't working on ESV, what are they working on? Fallout 4? I don't think so. Fallout: New Vegas is going to come out, and I don't think Bethesda would release Fallout 4 so close to it. They are working on ESV.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:26 am

Todd Howard's comments at QuakeCon made it obvious that Bethesda is not currently working on the next installment of the Elder Scrolls. I know he came out and said that there will be one eventually, but Howard saying that Bethesda is "working on the next big game" and that we should not "expect another Elder Scrolls anytime soon" suggests that Bethesda is going to release something other than another Elder Scrolls game or Fallout.


Or they're just yanking your chain, what with all those non-disclosure agreements and what-not, and they are indeed working on an ES title. Besides, in Pete's http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/, nowhere does he say that their current in-house title is NOT TES:V. And as for the Fallout or new IP possibilities... Some reading between the lines can bring about some decent speculative inferences. From the Cumulative Speculation topic:
Seriously, what have they been doing all this time if they don't have any plans for Elderscrolls V?


Well, potentially developing TES:V while having their marketing arm and executives busy fervently denying the existence of TES:V? :shrug:

...He does not say conclusively or indirectly that the game they're currently developing is not TES:V. What, then, would it be? Fallout 4? I would consider that highly unlikely, as Bethesda would then have 2 competing Fallout titles at the same time in FO4 and FO: New Vegas. Bethesda the Publisher naturally wants Obsidian to succeed in the sales of New Vegas, so why would they undercut the game's hype and both short- and long-term sales time by developing and eventually announcing a Fallout title of their own within the next 2- to 4-year cycle? And on the flip-side, Bethesda the Developer naturally want themselves to succeed financially with Fallout 4, so it wouldn't make much business sense again to have those conflicting sales, nor would it make much tactical business sense to overload your consumer with one intellectual property all at once without much of a break in between.

The only other intellectual property they currently have the rights to (that I am aware of) is TES, so the only other alternative for that title would be a whole brand-spanking-new game that we've never heard of before. But again, it doesn't make much marketing sense. A whole new intellectual property has neither an established hardcoe fanbase or a loose mainstream softcoe fanbase. A new IP is an experiment, and it's an experiment with far less guarantee of returns than a continuation of an established IP, such as a new Fallout or a new Elder Scrolls, would ever be. Bethesda, for all its developmental and artistic prowess, is still designed with bringing home the bacon in mind, and developing an experimental title has far more chances of going awry. And besides, Bethesda seems to have shown through its publishing arm that they fulfill their urge to put forth titles that don't already fit into their set categories by supporting and guiding other developers into making those titles with their name attached.

Is it possible that FO4 or some other hitherto-unheard-of title is their next game on the assembly line? Perhaps. But I have doubts. And there is only one other alternative (short of acquiring a whole new IP from another company, which couldn't be done without multiple press releases): TES.


Also, keep in mind Bethesda's track record for game releases.

Morrowind... XBOX
Oblivion... XBOX 360

Bethesda's release track record for the consoles means absolutely nothing in determining whether the game will be out for this generation or next generation. It entirely depends on the console manufacturers, particularly Microsoft, as the X360 is the platform with the weakest hardware. Considering they're all stoked to release Natal, they're planning on repackaging the X360 yet again in 2010 to resell and make even more money off the same system, and they've hinted that they believe Natal will extend the life of their current generation for several years to come, it's not an unlikely scenario to imagine that TES:V will be out on current hardware. Not that it's such a terrible thing; optimization and efficiency in hardware usage can improve a game's visuals just as much as getting new hardware. But again, Bethesda's track record is not the one that matters here.

There is no reason to think that Bethesda will pump out 2 huge RPG's for one system. Depressing for me, being a huge Bethesda fan. I really get tired of Bethesda's tight lip policy. It seems like somehow, someway, something would slip out. An ex-employee, someone that saw something they shouldn't have. Something. But we sit here, a year after Fallout 3's release and know nothing about what is going to come out.

The least thing they could do would be to give us the slightest inclination as far as what to expect.

I prefer the tight-lip policy. It lets them focus on what they need to do, without having to deal with and cater to insatiable fan hype. Besides, the happenings of the Oblivion announcement and the disappointment that stemmed from what we were told and what we got, is likely encouraging them to stay even more close-lipped. They're not going to say anything until all their proverbial ducks are in a row. And that's incredibly responsible for a company. Besides, a year from Fallout 3 isn't a big deal. Daggerfall fans went a little under 6 years before hearing about Morrowind. Morrowind fans went 3 or 4 years without hearing about Oblivion. True, Fallout 3 was a staggered development from Oblivion, meaning they should be fairly well along in whatever title they're currently churning out. But still; a year is hardly a disastrous wait time.

This whole thread could have easily taken place http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1045189.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:16 am

I honestly believe they are already working on TESV now. Didn't I read somewhere that Bethesda said they planned to release two Elder Scrolls games during the Xbox 360 lifecycle? (Please don't ask me where I read that. Surely others here saw it too.)

This is correct. In addition, Todd also said in a recent GamePro interview that he expects people to still be playing the 360 and PS3 when 2015 rolls around. He may or may not be right, but the fact is that he expects the current consoles to have a long lifespan. Considering this, there's no way Beth is going to wait until 2015 to release a new TES title.

And let's be realistic. Bethesda is a business. A new TES game is pretty much a guaranteed $300 million paycheck. You don't just ignore a profit opportunity like that. Heck, if they could pump a new TES out every year like Madden, chances are Bethesda would do it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:24 am

This is correct. In addition, Todd also said in a recent GamePro interview that he expects people to still be playing the 360 and PS3 when 2015 rolls around. He may or may not be right, but the fact is that he expects the current consoles to have a long lifespan. Considering this, there's no way Beth is going to wait until 2015 to release a new TES title.

And let's be realistic. Bethesda is a business. A new TES game is pretty much a guaranteed $300 million paycheck. You don't just ignore a profit opportunity like that. Heck, if they could pump a new TES out every year like Madden, chances are Bethesda would do it.

Considering this and considering that MS themselves said the Xbox would last about another 4 years I am almost positive the new TES will be on the 360..
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:58 am

I'm not sure about it since no one has even heard of a new console on its way. But, if a new console comes out and TES V comes out on it, I'm buying both. I bought my 360 just for Oblivion.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:34 pm

Also, keep in mind Bethesda's track record for game releases.

Morrowind... XBOX
Oblivion... XBOX 360

Yeah, that's 2 pieces of data there, that means nothing.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:19 pm

The statement was, as I understand it "Not to expect an Elder Scrolls game in the near future." But it doesn't specify how far this "near future" stretches, does it mean this year? the next? We don't know what Bethesda has planned yet, perhaps they are working on the Elder Scrolls V, perhaps not. I think, however, that whether we can expect an Elder Scrolls V on this generation of consoles or not depends on this.

If they aren't working on ESV, what are they working on? Fallout 4? I don't think so. Fallout: New Vegas is going to come out, and I don't think Bethesda would release Fallout 4 so close to it. They are working on ESV.


Bethesda isn't only aloud to work on two series, maybe they got hold of another license (but I doubt it, I think we'd hear something about that if it had happened. But Bethesda could be working on some other game that is neither Fallout nor the Elder Scrolls, perhaps even an original intellectual property. Most likely, Bethesda is not working on Fallout 4 right now, but beyond that, I don't want to say anything with too much certainty.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:37 pm

I just have a gut feeling it is something totally different. Like Bethesda wants to broaden their horizons and develop a third, top-selling video game. Kind of the same way that there were two Knight of the Old Republic, and then, Mass Effect. Knights of the Old Republic was tremendously popular, and everyone wanted a 3rd one (not the MMORPG that is coming out), and we never got it. Probably never will.

As it is, I'll eagerly await the next Elder Scrolls game but I'm not holding my breath. I expect Bethesda's new game to be something completely different from Fallout and The Elder Scrolls.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:07 pm

From a graphical standpoint there is no reason to wait for a next gen console anyway, look at cryengine 3 all they did was optimize the hell out of it.

Of course Bethesda would have to actually optimize their game engine... but waiting 2+ years vs. doing some MUCH NEEDED optimization? I think they will choose the latter.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:51 am

I just have a gut feeling it is something totally different. Like Bethesda wants to broaden their horizons and develop a third, top-selling video game. Kind of the same way that there were two Knight of the Old Republic, and then, Mass Effect. Knights of the Old Republic was tremendously popular, and everyone wanted a 3rd one (not the MMORPG that is coming out), and we never got it. Probably never will.

As it is, I'll eagerly await the next Elder Scrolls game but I'm not holding my breath. I expect Bethesda's new game to be something completely different from Fallout and The Elder Scrolls.

Well, forgive me if I stick with my speculative optimist position backed by reason, as opposed to gut feeling with no real basis. :shrug:

From a graphical standpoint there is no reason to wait for a next gen console anyway, look at cryengine 3 all they did was optimize the hell out of it.

Of course Bethesda would have to actually optimize their game engine... but waiting 2+ years vs. doing some MUCH NEEDED optimization? I think they will choose the latter.

Hell, Fallout 3 showed off huge optimization from Oblivion. And they don't even need to spend a lot of time optimizing in some cases; in example, they could just license Umbra for culling objects outside the player's direct line of sight (including buildings behind other buildings), and their FPS levels in large city environments would drastically thank them for it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:24 am

Hell, Fallout 3 showed off huge optimization from Oblivion. And they don't even need to spend a lot of time optimizing in some cases; in example, they could just license Umbra for culling objects outside the player's direct line of sight (including buildings behind other buildings), and their FPS levels in large city environments would drastically thank them for it.

Exactly, and if the cryengine team can get Cryengine 3 running on 5 year old hardware (which is amazing) I KNOW that BETHESDA (one of my favorite companies) can do something similar.

All in all I (now) think Bethesda would be foolish to try and wait for a next-gen console, seeing as there really is no need to.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:05 am

Exactly, and if the cryengine team can get Cryengine 3 running on 5 year old hardware (which is amazing) I KNOW that BETHESDA (one of my favorite companies) can do something similar.

All in all I (now) think Bethesda would be foolish to try and wait for a next-gen console, seeing as there really is no need to.


Well, Oblivion already pushes the current consoles to their limits, so it would make sense to wait to improve game mechanics further.
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