I hope this is still being worked on.

It is. I'm just busy. Scruggs has actually done a lot to help this. ARES should be released in a month or so, and this should see an update shortly after.

NifScript 0.9 has been released. The primary change is that it has fixed the bug with meshes inside BSAs.

Please note that v1.0 will be replacing these functions. They will be deprecated (though I will maintain backwards compatibility), and I strongly recommend that people avoid using these functions for anything beyond a Beta.

Great to hear this one is still alive.

Thank you

i noticed that the new unnecessary violence mod includes a function to add any shield to your back including mod added ones. does anyone know if anyone will be making a standalone mod that just does the shield on back option. i already use deadly reflex and that is just mainly for the occasional shield bash which i love.

It doesn't do shield on back - only hides your shield. It only does 'weapon on back' for off hand weapons. Once V1 of nifscript is out shields will be handled though.

You can configure UV to do ONLY this if you want though. It doesn't change your game in any way unless you let it, so there's no real need for a standalone.

HeX

Could the functionality of this be upgraded to include armor? This is coming from someone who has never modded in Oblivion, so excuse me if anything here sounds very off...

What I mean is: I once saw this mod that allowed the player to increase the stats of their armor (so for example if someone preferred Ebony's look over Daedric, they could simply take a copy of Ebony armor and Daedric armor and 'combine' them. The Ebony armor would then be called Ebony Greaves + 1 and would have the stats of a pair of Daedric Greaves). This mod, unfortunately, only worked for Vanilla-added items.

So would it technically be possible to use NifScript to add the .nif of your currently worn armor to a dummy item with different stats, and then rename the item to the armor you want to become stronger? i.e. let's say I have a pair of blue gauntlets and green gauntlets, both are mod-added, and I see that the blue ones are stronger than the green ones. I prefer the look of t nessicary he green ones though, so I could do something and come out with green gauntlets (+1) which now has the same armor rating as the blue pair? Or was that a pure swing-and-a-miss?

This isn't an attempt of hijacking your thread, DW; I was just wondering hypothetically if such a feature is implemented in NifScript, then would my idea be possible? In any case, this has great potential (Unnecessary Violence wouldn't be much the same without it). I just hope this is put to the test and utilized. I appreciate all the work you've done, and thank you for it. Best of luck!

ok...cool ill give it a shot when it gets updated.

For the sake of completeness, NifScript v0.9 has an undocumented, untested function, NifGetBackShield, which might (if it works correctly) return a version of a shield mesh that appears on the back. I don't honestly even know what item slot it's even supposed to use, though.


That could be done with OBSE without NifScript, actually. Not a bad idea for a mod, as a matter of fact.

If you're interested, I'd be willing to give you some tips on how you could make a mod like that.

Hmmm, I'm afraid I'll have to decline on your offer. As I said, I've no modding experience. In fact, the only experience I have with coding is a bit of knowledge with C and VB.NET (plus a small amount of knowledge about the Game Maker language when I was a kid). But thanks a bunch for the offer, and thanks a lot for sating my curiosity by answering.

Again, great job on this great utility; you deserve all the recognition you get for this.

Could this eventually apply rotations to weapon models, so you could flip one upside down and maybe turn it with a script?

Oh yeah remember you mentioning something about his before actually. I might have a play with it and see if it works. You never know

I believe that nif translation/rotation has always been on the intended features list. I hope one day to be able to use it to allow you to reverse your grip on a weapon or off hander and hold it in a stabby fashion.

Should be in v1.0. Pretty easy.

:drool: I can see so many possible fun things to do with rotation and translation controls - be good for animating things. Will it be able to rotate specific ninodes/objects or just the scene root?
Pacific Morrowind

The former is what I'd planned on doing.

Just out of curiosity... well, I was always curious about this project since it started... how complex would it be to implement functionality to create new NIF files by "combining" NiNodes, NiTriStrips/Shapes from existing NIF files? You know, I always understood NifScript to one day or another do everything you usually do in NifSkope now ingame during runtime from scripts. And "merging" parts of NIFs to create new ones always was a key feature I used NifSkope for.

I haven't yet thought about in detail how to make use of it, but I remember I could have used such a function on quite many occasions already.

Consider this a theoretical question rather than a request, as I know it certainly will take way more effort than anything else.
I'm just playing around with some ideas, seeing how far you already got with this. :goodjob:

Yup, NS is already a wonderfully useful thing, that's only going to get more incredible

One slightly irritating caveat sadly is that the engine doesn't recognise and apply the updates on an actor unless you unequip/reequip the object in question or at least force a redraw in some way (this might be a candidate for an OBSE function, or even a NS one - NSForceRedraw?), which precludes a lot of the obvious animation type desires for now.

What the effect will be on non character actor-object nifs I don't know, but I'd guess they'll need to be disabled/reenabled at least to force a redraw.

Very much... hoped for. It should certainly be possible. We're a ways away from being able to do that, though. But it's very much something I want this to do.


Disable/Enable is sufficient (and easy to use) for non-equipment. For non-weapons, un/re-equip will work just as well. It's weapons that cause the problems, because you are force to draw the weapon from your sheathe again, which looks really, really bad.

Redrawing a mesh has been requested for OBSE for a while, but Scruggs has no idea where such functionality might be found. If he comes across anything, I'm sure he'll expose it (at least, if testing on it shows that it is safe).



By the way: since HeX is going to be away for quite a while with RL stuff, and UV is the only mod that uses NifScript, I'll be working on ARES for a while, I think. I'll come back to NifScript after I get an initial release of ARES out.

Sounds like a plan. I've kept you away from ARES for too long already Have fun with your bigger toy...

Know one, because I made one: LP's Shield on Back


Until now it only works with Bethesda-Meshes, but I'll try this undocumented command.


@DW:
Is the syntax the same as the one in the test version you send me?

A function request, DW, if you can - Changing the collision layer property ( not sure if I'm using the correct terminology ); as in "Setting the collision layer to OL_TRIGGER". Basically, what Phitt says in http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=977097&hl=. Is such a function possible to implement ?

Still a point of interest.


New Stuff:
When are you planning to delete the created Meshes?


I'd vote for At every GameStart/Load (in that order), because it's easy to check for as the Scripter using GetGameRestarted/Loaded.
Any other solution won't be a problem won't be a problem because we have http://www.obse.silverlock.org/obse_command_doc.html#FileExists, but I'd prefer the ones mentioned above. This way I could recreate all of them at one time.

Or maybe you implement a AreMeshesDeleted-Function (just like IsPluggyDataReset for Pluggy). :chaos:

Ah, it is the same command I sent you. I haven't touched it since. Did it work when I sent it to you?


Quite probably. But it looks somewhat like it's a no-go from that thread?

At any rate, since there are a bunch of requests in that direction, after I get v1.0 out, I'll look into collision stuffs.


Hehehe, this is the sweet bit. I delete meshes "when Oblivion is done with them". Similarly, I create the meshes "when Oblivion needs them". Scruggs set up an awesome system for me where I can tell when either of those events has occurred, and create or delete the mesh as necessary. Therefore, the mesh will only exist for as long as Oblivion needs it. If I understand correctly, it only needs the file when the mesh is being loaded - once it is loaded, I'll delete it. I'll write it anew if Oblivion informs me that it needs to reload it.

Performance issues may come into play here, though. If I find that I'm writing/deleting too often and it's having a negative influence on performance, I'll just write them when Oblivion asks for them, and delete them when the player quits (or reloads, since I'll have to delete them and then re-write them with the save game's version to make sure that changes that happened since the save that's being loaded don't incorrectly persist).

At any rate, you won't ever have to worry about it. The meshes will exist when you need them.