Ninja Weapons and Armor ? : V - Skyrim

» Tue May 24, 2011 9:09 pm

I can guaruntee that Ninjas were victorious in many a fair fight

what? against who? I'm pretty sure that ninjas would try to avoid a "fair fight" as often as possible. They were assassins, not master fighters or soldiers. Many people forget that a ninja was primarily poor and ill-equipped, unlike a samurai who trained years and years to master his craft. Ninjas weren't people who trained on a mountain top for 20 years like in a movie or something.

Also, to answer the original question.

I expect to see the katanas to make a comeback, other than that i think that most ninja equipment would feel out of place.

» Wed May 25, 2011 2:27 am

Some weapons that a ninja would use, perhaps, but not "ninja weapons" whatever the hell those are.

» Wed May 25, 2011 4:17 am

what? against who? I'm pretty sure that ninjas would try to avoid a "fair fight" as often as possible. They were assassins, not master fighters or soldiers. Many people forget that a ninja was primarily poor and ill-equipped, unlike a samurai who trained years and years to master his craft. Ninjas weren't people who trained on a mountain top for 20 years like in a movie or something.

Also, to answer the original question.

I expect to see the katanas to make a comeback, other than that i think that most ninja equipment would feel out of place.

Your wrong, before the ninja became the assassins of Shoguns and Daimyos, they were farmers who took up arms against bandits(ex-samurai), they had to very good fighters to fend off bandits. As their influence grew, their role as non-samurai fighters became assasins. As a new cast of warriors, they adopted the same lifetime training lifestyle the samurai had. The ninja were great fighters and did train day and night honing their skills. Ninja clans also had to fight off other ninja clans. Ninja were just as capable as the samurai during the Tokugawa dynasty, as duels between samurai and ninja clans prove.

» Wed May 25, 2011 3:58 am

Screw ninja's. Hell, screw all eastern items/lore, I get annoyed by the small appearance they make in Oblivion. This isn't a JRPG. I'd be cool with a small easter egg like in mount and blade, but it shouldn't have any real impact on the game at all.

» Tue May 24, 2011 7:00 pm

Screw ninja's. Hell, screw all eastern items/lore, I get annoyed by the small appearance they make in Oblivion. This isn't a JRPG. I'd be cool with a small easter egg like in mount and blade, but it shouldn't have any real impact on the game at all.

Do you want all eastern stuff away ? that really svcks it also don't need be too much Western ,Because when All eastern stuff is Removed from The Elders scrolls it's too Western and That's gonna ruin the game ,people also want some Eastern stuff in it

» Tue May 24, 2011 7:27 pm

Dark Brotherhood isn't enough for you?

What kind of an idiot would go climbing "froze-to-death mountain" in a ninja outfit? silly idea, dark brotherhood outfits from morrowind sound more logical than this!

I didn't say if the Dark Brotherhood was enough for me or not it was just an idea
i Really like the Dark Brotherhood the Dark Brotherhood Armor looked alot like ninja Armor but i just want more variation of Ninja Armor and Weapons i think it's not called Ninja in Elder Scrolls think it's called the Akaviri

» Tue May 24, 2011 10:39 pm

Eh. I don't really want katanas and stuff. I feel like it's overdone and has a very 90s feel to it. I thought we were going for gritty, grimdark, immershuny, visceral, buzzword stuff here!

» Wed May 25, 2011 6:07 am

Too much harshness for a thread about 'ninja' weapons. Glad this is not a thread about fast travel or steam. Relax people, it's a game.

» Tue May 24, 2011 6:20 pm

Ninja Nords? Darn, that plus vampires would make the most awesome game ever!

Now, on a more serious note, I'm okay with some asiatic influence from Akavir. But, keep in mind, Nords are an European based culture. So I would prefer tons of viking-style stuff, and just some weapons and armors from Akavir.

By the way, why every single topic has to compare Morrowind to Oblivion...?

I didn't say if the Dark Brotherhood was enough for me or not it was just an idea
i Really like the Dark Brotherhood the Dark Brotherhood Armor looked alot like ninja Armor but i just want more variation of Ninja Armor and Weapons i think it's not called Ninja in Elder Scrolls think it's called the Akaviri

Ehem... Akavir is a continent, where there is at least a race with Japanese inspiration... but they are not ninjas. Are you asking for japanese stuff, maybe, or for assassin's stuff? "Ninja stuff" doesn't mean anything, actually...

» Tue May 24, 2011 10:24 pm

Ninja Nords? Darn, that plus vampires would make the most awesome game ever!

Now, on a more serious note, I'm okay with some asiatic influence from Akavir. But, keep in mind, Nords are an European based culture. So I would prefer tons of viking-style stuff, and just Obliviosome weapons and armors from Akavir.

By the way, why every single topic has to compare Morrowind to Oblivion...?

Ehem... Akavir is a continent, where there is at least a race with Japanese inspiration... but they are not ninjas. Are you asking for japanese stuff, maybe, or for assassin's stuff? "Ninja stuff" doesn't mean anything, actually...

Japanese Assasin stuff ? and i agree Ninja Nords will be great with Vampires But not too much Ninja things in it i Also like alot of Viking stuff but not too much viking So it needs to be Balanced

» Tue May 24, 2011 6:38 pm

I would think that since it's a role playing game, you could plqay as a ninja or assassin if you want. Why the hate? Anyway, the trend does seem to lean away from the Asian style weaponry.

» Wed May 25, 2011 1:31 am

Very rare examples of such weapons. Not too many types of them, rather focus on getting the nordic equipment feeling right. Although that's unlikely as well, looking at the weapons we've seen so far.

» Tue May 24, 2011 7:28 pm

Japanese Assasin stuff ? and i agree Ninja Nords will be great with Vampires But not too much Ninja things in it i Also like alot of Viking stuff but not too much viking So it needs to be Balanced

That was a joke...

Anyway, I must disagree this time. I think there must be "too much" viking stuff, at least compared with asian. You are in Nords' land, so most thing would be of their own craft. However, katanas and that things are very rare in Tamriel. Some of them are ancient Akaviri artifacts, and others are made by the Dunmer - but, remember, this time you're not in Morrowind - . Although if there will be a Dunmer city (which is confirmed), it would be nice to have some of their stuff there...

» Tue May 24, 2011 6:44 pm

Big NO
Stop with ninja and japanese stuff, because they do not belong in TES !! You can use mods to add them ...
(the reason we had them in Morrowind is cus they are Akaviri)

» Tue May 24, 2011 4:27 pm

That was a joke...

Anyway, I must disagree this time. I think there must be "too much" viking stuff, at least compared with asian. You are in Nords' land, so most thing would be of their own craft. However, katanas and that things are very rare in Tamriel. Some of them are ancient Akaviri artifacts, and others are made by the Dunmer - but, remember, this time you're not in Morrowind - . Although if there will be a Dunmer city (which is confirmed), it would be nice to have some of their stuff there...

Hmm i think i agree with you it doesn't have to be in whole skyrim maybe near a dunmer city or in the dunmer city Oh yeah it's Skyrim a Viking part of Tamriel so yeah it needs to have alot of Viking stuff but not almost only there needs to be other weapons too

» Wed May 25, 2011 6:58 am

Big NO
Stop with ninja and japanese stuff, because they do not belong in TES !! You can use mods to add them ...
(the reason we had them in Morrowind is cus they are Akaviri)

Do you think everyone have a good pc and can play the mods ?

» Tue May 24, 2011 10:01 pm

Ninja's were only skilled at misinformation. You rarely hear about a ninja that died, because his fellow ninja pals would finish the job and hide his corpse. They prepared things to make sure that people were scared of them, the modern equivalent of Hollywood special effects. People think they ran on the surface of water, when in actuality, they most likely had poles just under the surface to jump from. There's a reason ninja's aren't around today and assassins are. If they were as good as they pretended to be, they'd still be feared and basically worshiped today.

» Wed May 25, 2011 12:39 am

Ninja's were only skilled at misinformation. You rarely hear about a ninja that died, because his fellow ninja pals would finish the job and hide his corpse. They prepared things to make sure that people were scared of them, the modern equivalent of Hollywood special effects. People think they ran on the surface of water, when in actuality, they most likely had poles just under the surface to jump from. There's a reason ninja's aren't around today and assassins are. If they were as good as they pretended to be, they'd still be feared and basically worshiped today.

Aren't Assassins based of ninja's ? Because Without the Ninja's there will be no Good Assassins , Am i right ?

» Wed May 25, 2011 8:05 am

Katanas have been in most every TES game, to my knowledge, including Daggerfall. No, they are not "Nordic" so you won't find a "Nordic katana" but you might find a steel one or a daedric one that was imported or brought in by someone who comes from an area where they are more common.

Throwing weapons of all types would be great, but we haven't heard anything. Too bad.

» Wed May 25, 2011 5:12 am

This got me thinking of an old ninja manual I use to study. An ax could make an excellent ninja type weapon. Depends, an axe could basically just be used like a hanbō but more deadly since it has a blade/ and bashy part on the other side of the blade affixed to it. Plus throwing axes are really bad ass like someone said before.
If the combat mechanics system allows grappling or disarming it could work if you wanted to roleplay a ninja type.

» Wed May 25, 2011 1:52 am

It may be a fun Preorder DLC idea or a fun little "find" item in a quest.

» Tue May 24, 2011 11:42 pm

Wow...unnecessary thread. But I suppose I should let you know, the katana is not a "Ninja Weapon". The katana is the traditional sword of the Japanese samurai. :no:

Also, I don't think anything in TES is classified as "Ninja" anything, lol.

You do realize Ninjas are basically Samurais without an honor code?

Anyhow, I don't really care if we get ninja / samurai weapons, but more stealth weapons than daggers and bows would be nice.

» Wed May 25, 2011 8:34 am

Ninja's were only skilled at misinformation. You rarely hear about a ninja that died, because his fellow ninja pals would finish the job and hide his corpse. They prepared things to make sure that people were scared of them, the modern equivalent of Hollywood special effects. People think they ran on the surface of water, when in actuality, they most likely had poles just under the surface to jump from. There's a reason ninja's aren't around today and assassins are. If they were as good as they pretended to be, they'd still be feared and basically worshiped today.

Actually Ninja aren't around for the same reason Samurai aren't around, they're from feudal Japan. That misinformation stuff is useful too as it helps keep them feared and mysterious. You make it seem like they're pathetic without that stuff. I think it gives them psychological advantages.

People think they ran on the surface of water, when in actuality, they most likely had poles just under the surface to jump from.

That reminds me of how a skilled acrobatic in Oblivion can run, skip, and jump off the surface of water. (or something like that)

» Tue May 24, 2011 8:41 pm

Some people say ninja stuff doesn't match TES. What the hell are you smoking?! The dark brotherhood for all intents and purposes IS a ninja organisation, and there has been a katakana in every TES since Morrowind. The blades armor in Oblivion is based on samurai armor. Too bad people, it's already in.

» Wed May 25, 2011 7:19 am

Some people say ninja stuff doesn't match TES. What the hell are you smoking?! The dark brotherhood for all intents and purposes IS a ninja organisation, and there has been a katakana in every TES since Morrowind. The blades armor in Oblivion is based on samurai armor. Too bad people, it's already in.

They were in Daggerfall as well. I don't know if there was any katana in Arena.

Anyway, I don't agree with you about the Dark Brotherhood. They are assassins, but not ninjas. Ninjas were more than mere assasins, they were more like... spies.

(Oh, and... have you said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana?)