Ninja Weapons and Armor ?

Post » Wed May 25, 2011 8:39 am

What About more Ninja Weapons then only the Katana ? Like throwing Stars(Shuriken)Throwing Knifes And maybe more Ninja Weapons you can think of
And Armor Variation of Ninja Armor Not only the DB ones


Katana are generally Samurai weapons, not Ninja. However Katana's have already been in TES series, as Akaviri Weapons, As for Throwing Knifes and other things, Skyrim doesn't really seem a suitable setting, maybe it could work but let's be honest, this isn't a game that looks like it's gunna be focusing too much on mid range weaponry. Throwing Axes and Javelins would make more sense and I doubt we'd see either of them to be honest... but it depends on the game play and design, so we will have to see
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Post » Tue May 24, 2011 5:59 pm

Eh, I don't really see how it fits the theme of Skyrim to be honest.

This is TES V: Skyrim not TES V: Assassins Creed.
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Post » Tue May 24, 2011 10:14 pm

LoL @ Those people saying katanas are not ninja weapons. Ninjas used ninja-to because they were cheaper if they got the occasion to steal a katana after assassinating a samurai they would. katanas are superior weapons and they used them
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Post » Tue May 24, 2011 9:54 pm

Wonder why i got the Throwing Knife idea is just because to make the knife useful in Skyrim in Oblivion it was useless
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 11:26 am

Wonder why i got the Throwing Knife idea is just because to make the knife useful in Skyrim in Oblivion it was useless


Now it is almost lethal, if you attack an enemy from behind.
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Post » Tue May 24, 2011 10:21 pm

LoL @ Those people saying katanas are not ninja weapons. Ninjas used ninja-to because they were cheaper if they got the occasion to steal a katana after assassinating a samurai they would. katanas are superior weapons and they used them


Katana are generally long swords, they don't do well in stealth environments and more likely to get a Ninja detected, for a spy/assassin that really isn't a good end. If fighting was literally the last step left, a Ninja would probably resort to a Katana if one were available. Ninja would likely have carried a smaller weapon like a Kodachi or a Wakizashi. As for Ninjato's, they have no historical evidence at all and are likely entirely fictional in relation to being used by actual ninja. Overall Ninja's were not exactly open field fighters, they were not the kind of people to fight in the battle field and so the requirements for bladed weapons would really only be a last resort. On top of this, a lot of what ninja did and used wasn't recorded, being that ninja also acted as spies, it's unlikely they'd carry large weapons that made them stand out. It's also possible there were some overlaps, Ninja that became Samurai and vice versa, these would also obscure history somewhat.

I could understand if Ninja did use Katana's when their hand was forced, but they were never those types of warriors/fighters and so it'd really be fighting in a disadvantage against much more skilled enemy in swordsmanship, I just don't see it playing out for a Ninja since like all swords, Katana's need extensive training to use correctly. Ninja aren't like you see on TV or in Anime, they were usually from lower classes and the tricks and tactics they were trained in were essentially the skills of not being detected. To this effect, Samurai would likely be from higher classes then Ninja and so have received that extensive training the majority of ninja probably wouldn't have. As you note Katana are more expensive, Swords in most nations around the world are generally the weapons of rich because they were expensive to manufacture. If we were to create swords with modern techniques they would likely run a lot cheaper today, however replica and ceremonial weapons are generally weaker and heavier then their combat counter parts because they are made out of far cheaper materials.

Also a guy walking around in all black at night stands out more then Hollywood would like you to know. The fact is unless it's pitch black (what is rare and remembering that a guarded area would generally be lit during the night while also remember there is that lovely moon we have), wearing all black really wouldn't be that effective.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 10:22 am

They were in Daggerfall as well. I don't know if there was any katana in Arena.

Anyway, I don't agree with you about the Dark Brotherhood. They are assassins, but not ninjas. Ninjas were more than mere assasins, they were more like... spies.

(Oh, and... have you said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana?)


Sorry my spell check couldn't get the would katana right. And I've never played Daggerfall so lay off.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 7:22 am

Sorry my spell check couldn't get the would katana right. And I've never played Daggerfall so lay off.

I don't think playing Daggerfall had anything to do with what he was saying. He was just pointing it out.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 7:29 am

I don't think playing Daggerfall had anything to do with what he was saying. He was just pointing it out.


Yes, I was just saying it.

Sorry my spell check couldn't get the would katana right. And I've never played Daggerfall so lay off.


Wow. I didn't want to offend you in any way. :confused:
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 4:04 am

Actually Ninja aren't around for the same reason Samurai aren't around, they're from feudal Japan. That misinformation stuff is useful too as it helps keep them feared and mysterious. You make it seem like they're pathetic without that stuff. I think it gives them psychological advantages.

They were pathetic without that stuff. The only reason they were successful was because people feared them, since the people had no idea about Hollywood style special effects. Hollywood stuff wouldn't surprise civilians in TES, since there is magic. This isn't Caesar's Legion, who mutilate and torture their enemies at their whim, it's a group of people who hide in the dark and ambush other people. The psychological advantages of the Ninja only affect the ignorant. Legion's psychological advantages applies to anyone who doesn't wish to be thrown on to a pile of burning tires or crucified, which simplifies to everyone.


Katana are generally long swords, they don't do well in stealth environments and more likely to get a Ninja detected, for a spy/assassin that really isn't a good end. If fighting was literally the last step left, a Ninja would probably resort to a Katana if one were available. Ninja would likely have carried a smaller weapon like a Kodachi or a Wakizashi. As for Ninjato's, they have no historical evidence at all and are likely entirely fictional in relation to being used by actual ninja. Overall Ninja's were not exactly open field fighters, they were not the kind of people to fight in the battle field and so the requirements for bladed weapons would really only be a last resort. On top of this, a lot of what ninja did and used wasn't recorded, being that ninja also acted as spies, it's unlikely they'd carry large weapons that made them stand out. It's also possible there were some overlaps, Ninja that became Samurai and vice versa, these would also obscure history somewhat.

I could understand if Ninja did use Katana's when their hand was forced, but they were never those types of warriors/fighters and so it'd really be fighting in a disadvantage against much more skilled enemy in swordsmanship, I just don't see it playing out for a Ninja since like all swords, Katana's need extensive training to use correctly. Ninja aren't like you see on TV or in Anime, they were usually from lower classes and the tricks and tactics they were trained in were essentially the skills of not being detected. To this effect, Samurai would likely be from higher classes then Ninja and so have received that extensive training the majority of ninja probably wouldn't have. As you note Katana are more expensive, Swords in most nations around the world are generally the weapons of rich because they were expensive to manufacture. If we were to create swords with modern techniques they would likely run a lot cheaper today, however replica and ceremonial weapons are generally weaker and heavier then their combat counter parts because they are made out of far cheaper materials.

Also a guy walking around in all black at night stands out more then Hollywood would like you to know. The fact is unless it's pitch black (what is rare and remembering that a guarded area would generally be lit during the night while also remember there is that lovely moon we have), wearing all black really wouldn't be that effective.

Yay, someone who's information isn't directly from wiki or a cartoon.
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Post » Tue May 24, 2011 10:38 pm

It's not very Nordic.

Niether is a dark elf or orc :thumbsup:
Ninja stuff......YES PLEASE,good call OP :)
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 1:05 am

Dark Brotherhood isn't enough for you?

What kind of an idiot would go climbing "froze-to-death mountain" in a ninja outfit? silly idea, dark brotherhood outfits from morrowind sound more logical than this!

You have seen what the guy is wearing in the new background picture behind your post.....right!...your agumant is flawed.
You have been weighed,you have been measured,and you have been found wanting. :thumbsup:

Also the akaviri ,sound like they fight like ninja's,samurai's etc. Also ninja's are assassins.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 1:01 pm

I wish we could get something more Samurai-like like orcish armor from Morrowind, only that it's light armor now.
Still, I would like to see throwing weapons return.
I already made http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1172657-throwing-weapons/page__st__40__p__17314416__hl__throwing+weapons__fromsearch__1#entry17314416 and really wish for them to return since they would be great with this new fighting system.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 10:57 am

Too many of the artifact swords were katana's.
This is what saddens me, im not against eastern RPGs, I just prefer Western RPGs and Western RPGs are a dying breed.

Honestly, we should have more awesome weapons. How awesome would an artifact flail be?
Too awesome for me to imagine.

Anyway, thats a No for me, but I like variety too. They were in Morrowind, and they fit the setting decently. I want more weapons in general, but if ninja weapons are included the weapons list should expand greatly, not be half of the list.

Also ninja's are assassins.

Ninjas aren't assassins. They do surprise attacks and sneak attacks, but thats not all. They also just fight unfair (although nothing is fair in warfare) among other things.
They don't just crawl in your room and slit your throat, they also kill regular Samurai not for the purposes of assassinating people.

They are a warrior of deceit who can operate as a stealthy agent or assassin.

I wish we could get something more Samurai-like like orcish armor from Morrowind, only that it's light armor now.

Samurai's armor isn't light. It has leather, but it also has steel plates. More importantly it moves like heavy armor, it only flexes in certian pivitol locations, because it is a type of platemail.

Light armor (and really the name is misleading) is more about armor that can flex easily and anywhere. Leather, chainmail. Chainmail is by no means light, it just flexes everywhere not at certian points.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 1:12 pm

Wow...unnecessary thread. But I suppose I should let you know, the katana is not a "Ninja Weapon". The katana is the traditional sword of the Japanese samurai. :no:


Also, I don't think anything in TES is classified as "Ninja" anything, lol.

Morag Tong are pretty...ninja :ninja:
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 12:56 pm

Orcish armor in MW was very Samurai. We are closer to Orsinium now so I'd imagine some eastern style weapons/armor will make an appearance.

Most of these eastern items should be in southwest Skyrim, closest to the Wrothgarian Mountains in High Rock.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 11:43 am

Only if I can have a kusarigama.

Or and nunchacku.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 2:43 am

nty.

-DL :chaos
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 4:19 am

I wish we could get something more Samurai-like like orcish armor from Morrowind, only that it's light armor now.
Still, I would like to see throwing weapons return.
I already made http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1172657-throwing-weapons/page__st__40__p__17314416__hl__throwing+weapons__fromsearch__1#entry17314416 and really wish for them to return since they would be great with this new fighting system.


Take a look at the Orc Armor here http://darklythroughglass.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-02-04T21%3A15%3A00Z&max-results=8

Is that more "samurai" to your taste?
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 9:38 am

why do people say its not very nordic?
Bruma's cloud ruler temple anyone?...
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 3:39 am

why do people say its not very nordic?
Bruma's cloud ruler temple anyone?...

Bad example, 'twas designed to suit an Akaviri theme, not a Nordic theme.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 12:57 pm

Bad example, 'twas designed to suit an Akaviri theme, not a Nordic theme.


And thats to say Akavir has no influcence on nord culture?

I'd be willing to bet my money we'd be seeing more akavir style armors and weapons in skyrim, since we know the blades will be playing a part in the story and that Skyrim is one of there last hideouts.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 5:40 am

NOO ANIME DISEASE HERE...
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 8:20 am

Ninja's were only skilled at misinformation.


Wrong! They were assassins and spies, and masters of stealth. The only people who specialize in "misinformation" are politicians.
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Post » Wed May 25, 2011 5:42 am

-a Dragon Shout, uttered in a whisper


Lol, find that kinda funny...
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