Nir

Post » Sat May 11, 2013 7:49 am

Does anyone have information about Nir in relation to Anu and Padomay? I was going to design a mod quest line around these figures.

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Penny Courture
 
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Post » Sat May 11, 2013 9:03 am

She's the "female principle", whatever that means. There were theories floating around that she's possibly the missing Witness to the original enantiomorph, that she's Nirn personified or somehow became Nirn, and that she's the Amaranth. But really, the only source we have on her is from the Anuad, which implies she was the original subgradient/et-Ada I guess, born of the interplay of Anu and Padomay.

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Lou
 
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Post » Sat May 11, 2013 6:27 pm

My guess is that, just like the Anuad's Anu represents Anu, Anuiel, and Auriel/Akatosh all at once, and Padomay represents Padomay, Sithis, and Lorkhan all at once, therefore Nir represents the Aurbis and Mundus all at once. Though that is probably mistaken, since Nir gave birth to the Twelve Worlds, which were joined together in pieces (like the Aedra joined together in pieces) to create Mundus. So... the Twelve Worlds are the Aedra? Nir, regardless, seems to be a personified Aurbis.

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Dean Brown
 
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Post » Sat May 11, 2013 4:41 pm

Thank you for that response. I did fail to illustrate my understanding. from what I have read Anu and Padomay created Nir by entering the void but then Anu an Nir where in love and Padomay didn't take too kindly to this and thus Nir was destroyed to become Nirn. Anu and Padomay are beings of opposing philosophies. Stasis and Change. Does Nir also represent a philosophy or aspect of theology?

Isn't Alduin another literal translation of the figurative padomay?

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Juanita Hernandez
 
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Post » Sat May 11, 2013 6:13 pm

It is my understanding that Nir/the Aurbis is a state in which everything is possible. Anu's "stasis" can also be interpreted as "everything," and Padomay's "change" can also be interpreted as "nothing." Only by throwing nothing and everything together can one create "something," or more accurately "somethings" plural. There cannot be multiple everythings, after all. This combination of everything and nothing is what allows discrete beings and concepts to exist--Time, Space, Knowledge, Destruction, Domination, etc. etc. Padomay's limitations affect everything in Anu by separating that everything into bits. But all of those different bits can be mixed and matched to create an infinite amount of different possibilities.

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Beulah Bell
 
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Post » Sat May 11, 2013 8:10 am

Wow that is awesome and sheds some light on the subject. Thanks!

So my idea was to do a quest line that makes it to where incarnated Anu, Nir, and padomay's play out their roles in the universe and it's the players choice to side with the Druid's (side of balance and preservation. You sacrifice an incarnation of nir to Preserve The All-Maker), or you can side With The Necromancers who aid the incarnation of Padomay to stop the sacrifice and corrupt the all maker. What do you think?

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