Nirn is flat!

Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:52 pm

Perhaps Nirn is actually a spherical planet.


I honestly don't see how people can think otherwise, unless some evidence shows that if someone sailed in one direction in the ocean he reached some sort of wall or something.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:07 pm

I honestly don't see how people can think otherwise, unless some evidence shows that if someone sailed in one direction in the ocean he reached some sort of wall or something.

Maybe the Nerevarine didn't actually go to Akavir, but decided to sail around the world.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:20 am

Maybe the Nerevarine didn't actually go to Akavir, but decided to sail around the world.


Perhaps M'Aiq told him some lie about the world being flat and the Nerevarine wanted to prove him wrong or just find out for himself. Maybe Vivec and he are in a contest to see who can sail the world the fastest.

On a side note, I think it would be pretty cool if other continents besides the known were found. Probably aren't though...and it svcks.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:15 pm

Nirn clearly isn't spherical: you can't see the curvature in the ocean no matter how high in the air you are.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:18 pm

Nirn clearly isn't spherical: you can't see the curvature in the ocean no matter how high in the air you are.

And Zero-Sum is when Bethesda removes you because they don't want you to reveal that it's all a game.

Joking aside, it's just game mechanics. Gravity pulls downward everywhere; this is only possible if the planet is spherical.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:50 pm

And Zero-Sum is when Bethesda removes you because they don't want you to reveal that it's all a game.

Joking aside, it's just game mechanics. Gravity pulls downward everywhere; this is only possible if the planet is spherical.


Lol exactly. You might as well say the inside of buildings cant possibly exist because you can't see the insides of them through the windows.

or that the player can't possibly hold that much stuff when he doesn't even have pockets.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:36 am

Went people make baseless conjectures with no answers except the educated guesses of common sense I won't hesitate to use lame-ass gameplay excuses.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:40 pm

Went people make baseless conjectures with no answers except the educated guesses of common sense I won't hesitate to use lame-ass gameplay excuses.

It's not like the idea of Nirn being flat isn't baseless.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:06 pm

On a side note, I think it would be pretty cool if other continents besides the known were found. Probably aren't though...and it svcks.

Well to judge whether there are any more large continents, we'd need to know how big Nirn is exactly, and how big Tamriel is in relation to the size of Nirn.

I've heard quite a few things, from it being infinite to being the size of Mars. I don't know enough about lore and get confused, but when I think of Nirn I like to think of it as a planet. When I made my planet nirn globe (http://vality7.googlepages.com/planetnirn), I had a look around for a size, and found this picture of Tamriel on a globe (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/Vality7/adan_globe.jpg) - which I think was based off coordinates from the Redguard map - and in my opinion that just looks way too small. So I made Tamriel on mine quite a large size in relation to the planet, and while it may look possibly too big, I don't think it is - Have a look at this animation I made (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWiweJS7isA), it shows how much extra ocean there is on the other side of the globe, and even with Tamriel at this size there is tonnes of room for more continents, so I think it's a good size.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:17 pm

I honestly don't see how people can think otherwise, unless some evidence shows that if someone sailed in one direction in the ocean he reached some sort of wall or something.

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#17

Relevant? I'm not sure. It could just be Vivec taking a walk in the meta again.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:17 am

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#17

Relevant? I'm not sure. It could just be Vivec taking a walk in the meta again.


I recalled taht at the very moment i wrote my post. Honestly didn't expect someone to bring it up.... HOPEFULLY it's just a easter egg so I can feel smug about being right about something.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:50 pm

Actually, Nirn is a giant banana. Duh.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:18 pm

Actually, Nirn is a giant banana. Duh.

If you're going to necromantate something, at least do it with wit. Or Substance. But what's the difference, eh? Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:48 pm

Actually, Nirn is a giant banana. Duh.



It is actually rotting divine flesh. Best not to discuss that you are a carrion animal, living on the rotting remains of earlier beings, now isn't it?

I wonder what the maggot thinks about the corpse it lives in?
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Post » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:00 am

Hm. What if someone took a screenshot from somewhere in the sky, looking down at the world to the point where they could still see it. Then, they made this a .dds and made a flat static, and put it on a wall. Would then, someone care to argue that the object in question is flat?

To answer your question Wierd, "I wonder when I'll get wings. That sounds fun."
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:02 am

It is actually rotting divine flesh. Best not to discuss that you are a carrion animal, living on the rotting remains of earlier beings, now isn't it?


Rotting? I wouldn't say so. The moons, yes. Nirn, it's more like Frankenstein's monster, it is made up of dead parts, but those dead parts were given a life of their own.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:35 pm

Rotting? I wouldn't say so. The moons, yes. Nirn, it's more like Frankenstein's monster, it is made up of dead parts, but those dead parts were given a life of their own.



Nirn is the scarab's dung ball. The scarab collects refuse and filth from other beings, sticks it together, then impregnates it with the promise of new life.

The dung remains dung. But the scarab gifts it with promise.


That is Nirn.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:02 pm

Nirn is the scarab's dung ball. The scarab collects refuse and filth from other beings, sticks it together, then impregnates it with the promise of new life.

The dung remains dung. But the scarab gifts it with promise.
That is Nirn.


That implies then that Nirn itself has no potential and is only the trickster's tool to reach greater things. That may have been how it was intended to be, but intentions to not correlate with results. The result was a new divinity, a new way of being and most importantly the ultimate destruction of the trickster. Without his direction, Nirn grew to become its own thing and spawned more new new men then Shezarr intended (as he intended himself to be the only one).
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:29 pm

That implies then that Nirn itself has no potential and is only the trickster's tool to reach greater things. That may have been how it was intended to be, but intentions to not correlate with results. The result was a new divinity, a new way of being and most importantly the ultimate destruction of the trickster. Without his direction, Nirn grew to become its own thing and spawned more new new men then Shezarr intended (as he intended himself to be the only one).



"He failed on purpose, to show us how not to [fail]"


It was by design. The elven side of the story is not the only one.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:38 pm

he elven side of the story is not the only one.


But neither is Vehk's
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:34 am

But neither is Vehk's



I never said it was. Vivec is a self proclaimed liar, thief, and cheat. He is a walking paradox. Is he lying about lying, or not? :D


Regardless, there are other sources besides vivec's rather interesting little acid trip joyride through the universe's psyche.
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:00 pm

It is actually rotting divine flesh. Best not to discuss that you are a carrion animal, living on the rotting remains of earlier beings, now isn't it?

I wonder what the maggot thinks about the corpse it lives in?

But how can inorganic matter rot?
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:20 am

But how can inorganic matter rot?

Say not rotting, say decomposing.
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Post » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:18 am

But how can inorganic matter rot?


Are the gods made of inorganic matter?
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Post » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:36 pm

And Zero-Sum is when Bethesda removes you because they don't want you to reveal that it's all a game.

Joking aside, it's just game mechanics. Gravity pulls downward everywhere; this is only possible if the planet is spherical.



Exactly! The borders of the game go only so far and it'd take too much extra programming (and time/money) to make the ground curve the way a real planet does. Perhaps in the future, like in TES XIII, you will be able to explore the entire planet. Boy, wouldn't that be fun?
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