Non-Nordic Dovahkiin

Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:06 pm

Yes, yes. I am aware that technically Akatosh can bless anyone from any race with dragon blood.

That's not what I'm asking.

I'm asking if would it be that a Nord Dragonborn feels more right than a non-Nord Dragonborn would.

As in, it actually being weird for other races to play this role even if it's possible in the game.

Just like you can wear any clothes you want, but not all of them suit you.

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Jessica Nash
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:20 pm

sure does, not every Dragonborn is history has been a a Nord...

The Majority of the Septim Emperors were Imperial for example.

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maya papps
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:52 pm

With the lyrics of the dragonborn song referring to the men of the north, It would be very weird to me if he or she were not a nord. He should at least be a man race. The song refers to him as the savior of men as well. Doesn't have bearing in lore of course but you get my meaning.

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dav
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:08 pm

The game is centered around the idea that the Dovakhiin is a Nordic hero, but it doesn't require it.

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Robert DeLarosa
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:08 pm

That is why I felt the need to make a thread on the subject. It may not be as black and white as it might seem at first.

I remember that bit. "Who was kin to both wyrm and the races of man".

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michael danso
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:19 am

all that really means is "he lives in the North", Skyrim being one of the Northernmost provinces.

Just like how here in Canada, we refer to those in the Yukon or Nunavut "Northerners" regardless of racial decent. I have a friend who was born in Austria, but now that hes up in the Yukon he no longer refers to himself as Austrian, but as a "Northerner", and we refer to him as the same

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:33 pm

Of course when a Nord makes a song he is hardly going to sing about an elven hero come to save him, no that's going to be a Nord.

Hence the song.

This doesn't mean that the Dragonborn can't be an Argonian or Bosmer.

In TES lore you always have to consider the bias of the source.

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Leticia Hernandez
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:21 pm

No sir, that is universal for Nord in TES.

Not saying it does, just saying it makes it weird for me.

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Julie Ann
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:13 pm

Well, there's the line I mentioned in the post above. "Who was kin to both wyrm and the races of man".

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:17 am

My Altmer mage thinks it's hilarious and absurd. The great savior of Skyrim, a spell flinging elf. Awesome.

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carrie roche
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:23 pm

The Dovahkiin is obviously an Imperial of the dragon blood. This being confirmed by my character. :D

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Emma Pennington
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:34 pm

I have a similar situation. I also feel that siding with the Stormcloaks is more meaningful if you're not a Nord, or possibly even human.

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:59 pm

nah the playerborn is pretty ignorant of skyrim's customs in most dialog options. Although i have a hard time picturing the dovahkiin as one of the beast races. In tes oblivion the antagonist was a dragonborn, as was the coc's best friend martin...so don't think you have to be a nord

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:04 pm

Nord, Breton, Imperial. In that order. Redguards have the HoonDing. Mer don't believe in mannish nonsense.

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:50 am

A non-nordic Dovahkiin I find weird.

Not because of the whole "I'm a Dovahkiin!" issue, but because the game was obviously built and centered for a Nordic player, and assumes that's the only race the player will choose. There's no additional proving required to, say, Ulfric if you happen to be an Altmer Dovahkiin. Or the Blades (who are wary of Thalmor plants to begin with. And the message they leave has too many "if's" attached to it, in my mind.) The only real indication for your race is combat taunts and random lines from NPCs, and I don't really count those, since they amount to throaway lines.

Morrowind was centered for a Dunmer player, but they wrote it well enough that you had to look hard for it, as the circumstances surrounding the main quest were equally applicable to any race/gender combination. And Oblivion... really lacked any indication of what race they had in mind when designing it, other than (likely) male.

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abi
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:11 am

Well, it's fairly clear that many high elves dislike the Thalmor, and apparently Ulfric and the rest aren't so racist against Altmer that they won't give you a chance. Which I confess is encouraging.

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:25 am

If you really wanna make this interesting then why not mention oblivion an Morrowind after all in Morrowind the nevarine I think it's spelt that way but either way he or she is suppose to be dunmer an I never played as a dunmer an with oblivion I never used the imperial so just cause the game is set in skyrim don't mean jack as for men of the north skyrim is not the only northern province of tamriel

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:09 am

This line refers specifically to Tiber Septim, it has nothing to do with the Last Dragonborn. Also the song was written many years ago and it's only natural that Nords expected a Nord hero - doesn't mean the real one will be exactly as they imagined.

I played two Dragonborn characters: Bosmer and Imperial. They didn't feel wrong.

You're not required to believe, only to accept who you are. If I stop believing in the color blue, my eyes won't suddenly change to brown. If the Dragonborn doesn't worship Akatosh, well... Gods are fickle. Sometimes prophecies are fulfilled by the most unlikely people.

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:02 am

I find it even more ironic for my Falmer character. Especially since he's going to reform the Betrayed with Bend Will shout and exact justice on the genocidal Nords.

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:09 pm

Just like the Nerevarine, it's implied that the PC's race is that of the setting. If you chose not to play a human it gets explained away through Dragon Breaks and alternate timelines ect.

Why is it unclear what Tiber Septim's race really was? Some say Hjalti was a Nord or a Breton. Some even say he was a Redguard. Dragon Break.

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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:11 pm

I like you.

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Chloe Lou
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:45 am

My Altmer is Honoured to be the Dragonborn. She loves ancient Nord stuff and was raised by Nords. as a kid she read about the ancient nords every night and wanted to shout.
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Sheeva
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:47 am

actually, I am pretty sure in TES lore it is only used to describe a citizen of Skyrim.

not all Citizens of Skyrim are of Nords

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lexy
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:47 pm

actually, the Dialogue Ulfric gives you when you join the Rebels varies depending on wether you are or are not a Nord.

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Matthew Barrows
 
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Post » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:50 am

I think you're talking about Galmar

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