hey i was rewatching the gameplay trailers and i noticed that the person you sets your special says that vault-tec is the FOREMOST makers of vaults. i wonder if this could mean other companys. mabye a way to get around the canon of thier only being 122 vaults? do you guys think its possible that in fallout 4 we will get vaults builtby another company to explore? mabye ones that werent social experiments.

Highly doubt there are any other. There were those personal vaults that held like one person in D.C. but on the scale of Vault-Tec, doubt it. Especially since Vault-Tec had funding from the Enclave and the government.

They are one and the same, just saying.

I don't see why there wouldn't or couldn't be private vaults built by rich individuals and/or large corporations. I don't think there's anything stating that it hasn't happened.

Nope, Enclave was a shadow government, while they did control the government not everyone in the government was enclave.

True. Making fallout and bomb shelters was big business during the Cold War. Don't see why it would be any different in the Fallout universe. I'd personally like to see a lot more personal bomb shelters in FO4, and wouldn't mind seeing vaults by other corporations besides Vault-Tec. They wouldn't be as big or luxurious as Vault-Tec, obviously, but Vault-Tec also had to spread it's money and funding out over hundreds of vaults. There isn't anything to say corporations didn't build single vaults in local areas to cash in on the "vault reservation" boom.

There's a good chance that all vaults we encounter, are Vault-Tec brand vaults.

The only other alternative where those one-person sized shelters you found in Fallout 3.

even one single person sheters would be cool. be epic to find one that was built by someone insanely paranoid so its stuffed with food, water and guns. basicly a treasure trove of gear you an radnomly stumble across. not unlike getting the mirv in fallout 3

We may find ONE independent fallout shelter, that of which I'm fine with.

I've always been of the opinion that Vault-Tec held a monopoly on the business, because let's face it, on paper, a Vault-Tec vault is pretty sweet, even if you had no clue you were stumbling into a controlled experiment. Way better than anyone else could have made.

And by my thinking, no one saw the attack at the end of the Great War coming, because I honestly beliece pre-war America though they'd won.

Vault-Tec does appear to possibly be a monopoly in the US, but there has to have been other Vault (or similar type of shelter) builders in other countries.

But not in the US, which is the concern here in this context. We can cover that if they ever make Fallout: New London or something.

Vault Tek built 122 Vaults. Not all sealed underground environments were Vault Tek Vaults and most aren't even called Vaults. Most of the non-Vault Tek sites are military or civilian government but there are also some Family "Vaults".

Some of the non-Vault Tek not-called-vaults Vaults we have been exposed to include:

Mariposa Military Base

Lost Hills Bunker

Hidden Valley Bunker

Raven Rock (based on a real world military bunker called Site-R which is located in a place most of the people in these forums have never heard of called Raven Rock)

There is a private vault under the Sierra Madre casino.

Those aren't even all the ones we know about. There should be Military "Vaults" and Government "Vaults" and Company "Vaults" and Family "Vaults" all over the place. Vault Tek is probably the only ones that were building "Vaults" that were designed to use the residents as lab rats, but it is a certainty that others were building "Vaults".

Well, I'm sure the government made their own bunkers, like Hidden Valley and Raven Rock that could, and did survive Nuclear bombardment. Whos to say that a famous institute like MIT wouldn't have their own personal vault under them?

True, Big MT in Old world blues was part of a mountain that ended up getting it's top blown off. I'd imagine given how many aspiring scientists and such in MIT would warrant their own personal vault.

What if we see a proto vault. Failed Vault experiment that vault-tec and goverment were testing but deemed faulty for some reason. Either because of bad materials or poor caftmanship etc.

I think, if i remember correctly, that RobCo and other private contractor's attempted to create Vault's but ultimately were either inefficient or not long lasting. Fallout 3 mention's that the president's bunker under the white house was built by private industry and failed when struck directly by an atomic payload directly. And I do not remember the name of the company (plinker? plunker? meh..) created one-person safe shelter's around the DC area (The silver metal tubes's that usually had a dead body inside ) and were utter failure's. (oh I don't know, maybe cause the occupant could fry inside or be welded in. Hell, suffer from radiation leaking through the wall's?). Vault-Tech was also as stated above, heavily funded by shadow government, and thus was forced to ensnare people in experiment situation's (mostly willingly enforced). A small side note, did none of Vault-Tech's engineer's and contractor's get into a vault? I mean, there is not one person that has any passed down experience of vault inner working's and structure, or ghoul's that possible remember building them?

If I'm missing something, leave a reply

I think within America, Vault Tec being the quasi criminal organisation they were probably would have 'solved' any of the problems (rivals) that came along.

Outside of America I think other countries would of had their own styles of preservation. England and Moscow probably would of relied on their VERY deep Subway tunnels and bunkers et all they have. There is a Subway station in Kiev that is 105 metres below ground. Thats a long way down. People could of hidden down there (and more that likely also became Feral Ghouls or died due to after effects). I think Metro 2033 depicts a post apoc Russia /Ukraine fairly well.

I think Canada was more than likely screwed over by America because they were in the way. Australia back in the 50-60's was an afterthought by most (but probably copped a missile or 2), and while its possible they followed the lead of the US, I dont think there would be many vaults.

A friendly reminder that the nuclear war is not and never has been set in the 50's, and the giant mutant kangaroos of the Aussie Supremacy will have their vengeance.

The Enclave and by extension the regular US government had their own bunkers that acted as fallout shelters. Some, like the BOS bunker in New Vegas were mildly impressive, whereas others, like the Enclave bunker in Fallout 3, were straight up more advanced than Vault-Tec vaults. Commercially, however, I highly doubt there were any competitors. If there was, they probably got bought out fairly quickly by Vault-Tec.

For sure other companies made vaults, like the ones listed. Though i can see other companies being bought out/destroyed as rivals.

Side note: even if a country did not get hit with a nuke, the radioactive cloud would travel the world. Even here in my state ST. Helens cloud went around the entire world. I am figuring that would kill everything it came into contact with.

Even so Australia is probably not THAT bad. Not any worse than it is currently at least.

The outback was probably untouched, though it is uninhabitable in the modern world so I'm not sure if that was a good thing.

Whoever survived until now in Australia is either living in constant fear of the worst mutated horrors imaginable, or living comfortably since the country probably looks the same save Sydney being a mess.

Sydney surely would of Copped a Nuke (thats the problem when you are seen as the ONLY City in Australia). You are right though, most loss of life in Australia would have come from the after effects of the nuclear fallout not from dying in the actual blast.

However you could also look at it from another angle. Australia has some of the largest deposits of Uranium in the world, so it might make it a bigger target.

I never knew that! Am I the only one thinking that would make Australia an awesome Fallout game/expansion now?

Can the Lucky 38 be considered a vault? I know it was a casino but it was sealed for 200 years, keeping Mr. House safe from the outside world.

Its certainly a Vault, but as Vault was a trademarked name by Vaultec.. lets not use that name anymore. Mr House built himself a very nice Fallout shelter. Vault 21 was just across the road up the street in the strip.