I loved blood moon and Morrowind, and have never gone back to being a bosmer after being intimidated in the tavern in Seyda Neen.

I loved Oblivion, but thought there could be more Argonian slaves, I did LMAO at the

and in Morrowind

fixed poll, not comparing nords to the norse.

Please no caste. It is degrading and something that belongs to the previous century. I do not believe it is appropriate in a game either.
And as for slaves, only if I am able to kill the master and get fame for it.

lol

I would like to see most Nords under a honour caste. Although some Nords in more "western" cities can be like the Nords of Oblvion. I would also like the return of slavery, I know it's been abolished, but the empire had no emperor as last I left it, so things can change. And who knows exactly how much time has passed, again things can change. But I think slavery adds another demension to the game. Whether it's the moral freer of slaves, or the hardened owner of slaves. Perhaps a return of Twin Lamps, and/or quests or events which result in your character becoming enslaved...

the game is set in a previous century...

well what would be a previous century here

Really? I just figured different planet with different environment.

Im not voting but id like to see mostly an honor system with some drunken warbands roaming around. i never did the twin lamps line in morrowind, but i did free every slave that i couldn't technically buy. it brought about more immersion then not having it because, dark or not, it added culture, and made me feel like an outsider.

I would love to choose between helping a drunk warband raid a breton/redguard monastary, and defending it though.

Correct!!!

Well it's a good thing that this isn't anything like the 21st Century... It's a video game. I'm not very clear on Nordic lore (I've been out of the TES scene for quite a while) but it may very well be a caste system. It's things like that which give games a certain depth. It's different than what we have, and allows us to explore a different way of life. The dwarves had a caste system in Dragon Age, and it makes for very deep quests and forces you to choose between the poor and the rich, etc. Fallout: New Vegas has Caesar's Legion enforcing slavery, and they are an option to support in the game.

If you want to play a game with swords and magic but with 21st Century Western-world ideas, then look elsewhere. Exploring different worlds in video games is nothing less than a great idea.



Also, I want to see whatever is the Nordic tradition. I like to keep things canon.

Nordic societies were largely based on honor and prestige, what you've accomplished with your life, not some kind of arbitrary caste system. If the Nords of Tamriel are really based off of Nordic people of northern Europe, then that's what it'd be like.

Eh, the only people to really enslave anyone was the mer (dunmer, alyeids, and arguably the altmer). So do not expect the nords to have slaves (in fact, men in general do not like slavery)

As for how they live, you must remember that Skyrim isn't a unified country, much like ancient Greece. Each city is its own state, with some forging alliances, and hating the others. In fact, the way the country is ran is a lot like ancient Greece; a loose confederation of city states (ran differently, depending on the ruler), most likely ran by a tyrant (not the negative connotation kind).

And, nords =/= norse, despite the similarities. Read your lore before you vote, people.

I'm not looking for that, in fact I do not regard 21st century western world as that great or superior. I just find the caste system appalling and would rather not have that in the game. There are other aspect to give depth and force you to make choices.

there weren't any slaves in solstheim, but there weren't any people to really enslave.

we don't know a whole lot about nords, except what we saw in solstheim and bruma, so i drew on norse similarites as speculation. (never played tes I or II)

im hoping for a slightly darker game than oblivion, but not as dark as morrowind, and would like to see a faction or warband that enslaves bosmer. i wouldn't be upset at all if there weren't slaves, because there are no indications that nords enslave anyone.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1148384-skyrim-lore-compendium/ Read everything there. There more to what we know of Skyrim than you think.

Also, the Skaal are not like the nords of Skyrim, even though they are nords. In fact, a hint was dropped, around the time the TES novel was released in the Lore Forums here, that the nords of Solstheim will actually help the refugee dunmer get back on their feet.

wow i feel stupid. i read the in-game books about most races except altmer, nord, and khajiit...and i guess i just read where the nords came from, and not the legends and deeper lore. i was wondering what the breath was all about on the teaser ingraving.

this game is going to be amazing.

In reality, yes. But it's a video game. Do you suggest that we make games where everyone is equal and happy? That doesn't add much depth in the reality factor. In fact, I'm glad that you find it appalling, that way the video game would evoke real emotion, and thus immersion. There is nothing wrong with a game invoking true emotion (think, the recent holocaust game, perhaps?)

Yes there were. Although their appearance was timed to the death. See below.




Perhaps exactly why there http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Sjobal to help the Dunmer get "back on their feet". Then again maybe the Skaal were just part of an underground to ferry slaves to freedom. I don't know, just sayin'

They have a caste system in India, so it does not really belong to the last century. :thumbsdown:

Sounds like a bunch of argonians fleeing north to escape slavery from Morrowind, and that dunmer was sent to kill them. Also, MK said they indeed helped them, not enslave them. I forgot the word he used, but the synonym is, pretty much, heavy charity.

Personally, I want to see my choice of race mean something in Skyrim. If I choose to play a Dunmer (as I'm planning), I want the Nords to stare at me suspiciously and treat me coldly at best; if I play an Argonian or Khajiit, I want the Dunmer to treat me with disdain; if I play anything but an Altmer, I want the Altmer to treat me with condescension, etc.

"seen any elfs" can anyone explain this to me please.

Disn't you read a single book in Morrowind? Slavery is illegal and viewed as morally disgusting everywhere except for Morrowind, and it according to dialogue in Oblivion it was finally made illegal there too.

Yes, but Skyrim may or may not take place over 200 years in the future, after the events of the recent novel, in which Black Marsh invaded Morrowind and the Dunmer fleed. Tamriel will likely be a far different place than we knew in Morrowind and Oblivion.

He would enslave an elf/mer if given the chance.

I can imagine some more isolated tribes (if there are such) may delve into slavery I'd like to have my own kahjiit slave again

I'm hoping for some healthy down to nirn social stratification to present something more primal or tribal to much of skyrim. Through the cities in skyrim differ greatly in culture and customs so it would likely vary between city states like Winterhold and Solitude which is to say warband. Slavery however is outlawed thoughout the empire who while weakened may still carry some weight in Skyrim and besides I suspect that many Nords atleast would see the use of slaves as for the weak and lazy.

And some prejudice to be present would make picking a race more interesting and present potential replay value as you play for some different dialogue.