A Nord named Shor mantled Lorkhan in the previous Kalpa?

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:42 am

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:26 PM

This is a forum fragment, to be taken in the same vein as the posts on the long-ago WWPD? thread. Meaning this is not necessarily true...but if it were, what does it mean?

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"And the awful fighting ended again.

"Kyne's shout brought our tribe back to the mountaintop of Hrothgar, and even our recent dead rode in on the wind of her breathing, for there had been no time to fashion a proper retreat. Their corpses fell among us as we landed and we looked on them in confusion, shaken as we were by this latest battle in the [untranslateable]. The chieftains of the other tribes still held their grudge against our own, Shor son of Shor; more, they had united finally to destroy us and used skin-magic to trick us into disarray.

"Shor was disgusted with the defeat, and disgusted more when reminded by Jhunal that our withdrawal had been wise, for we were outnumbered eight to one. Shor took on the form of the [untranslateable] then, which he used to better shape his displeasure, rather than to shout it aloud and risk more storm-death. His shield thanes, the brothers Stuhn and Tsun, bowed their heads, collecting the spears and swords and wine-knives Shor threw about the broken pillars of the easternmost sky-temple. The rest of us looked away and to our own, not even to acknowledge the thunderclap that signaled our Queen's arrival, who stepped in from the tunnel of her own breath last.

"Kyne had taken the head of Magnar, the jarl that betrayed the weakness of our spear-lines and fled the field. Shor shook his scaled mane. "That isn't Magnar," he said, "Magnar, I fear, fell at sunrise and became replaced by mirrors. The other chieftains are using our forms to lead us astray."

"And then Shor walked away from his War-Wife to enter the cave that led to the [untranslateable]. He needed to take counsel with his father yet again. "Our chieftain loses heart," Dibella said, Bed-Wife of Shor, hefting another body onto the corpse pile some of us were making, "And so goes to the speak to one that has none anymore. Mirrors, indeed, and in that I see no logic."

"Tsun took her by the hair, for he was angered by her words and heavy with lust. He was a berserker despite his high station, and beauty followed battle to his kind. "You weren't made for that kind of thinking," Stuhn said, dragging Dibella towards a whaleskin tent, "Jhunal was. And no one should be speaking to him now." Tsun eyed the Clever Man who had heard him. "Logic is dangerous in these days, in this place. To live in Skyrim is to change your mind ten times a day lest it freeze to death. And we can have none of that now."

"Kyne could have stopped all of this but did nothing but stare at the crowd of Nords around her. Stuhn and Tsun were shifting and it was still uncouth to prevent this kind of neighboring. She looked on Jhunal and did not know if he should be spoken to or not. Rules were changing. Even her handmaiden was gone, and that lack of attendance was a transgression, but Kyne knew Mara was no doubt making treaties with one of the other chieftains, and the Pact still allowed for Tear-Wives to do that. After her husband Shor had forgotten to kiss her, a tradition among the War-Married when they returned from the field together, Kyne kept her storms to herself and knew there was no true understanding until the [untranslateable] was lifted."

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I think most people assume that Shor is Lorkan, but it it possible that he was just a man in the previous Kalpa and he that mantled Lorkhan and is now interchangeable with him in this Kalpa?

That's what I got from reading all that.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:29 am

Shor's dad is Sithis.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:39 am

I've played with this theory in my head before, but I don't think it's supported by existing lore.

But it's a cool notion; the idea that Shor and Auri-El are to the last kalpa what Alesha-tosh and Talos are to this one. Members of a long line of beings who take the roles of Aka-Borhamu and Lorkhan for a time and, eventually, play out their cosmic struggle. They may corraborate to hold up the world that they love, but they eventually fail. Their worshippers begin to fight each other, the land falls, the kalpa turns and they are the chief gods of their respective pantheons in the new dawn. Until someone new takes their places.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:20 pm

And does that idea prove the Psijics right?

"According to the Psijic Order, the Daedra and gods that the common people worship are nothing more than the spirits of our ancestors" http://www.imperial-library.info/content/guide-psijic-order
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:55 am

And does that idea prove the Psijics right?

"According to the Psijic Order, the Daedra and gods that the common people worship are nothing more than the spirits of our ancestors" http://www.imperial-library.info/content/guide-psijic-order

It seems the Psijics don't believe kalpas exist so far. Ancestors-Aedra/Daedra are the memories of Dawn Era or the last kalpa.
And it is more likely the Psijics are talking about the Mantling thing in this kalpa on their ancestor-issues.
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