NOT AGAIN with Dean Domino!

Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:52 am

NOTE: Mildly spoilerific

Just played through Dead Money again. Was nice to Dean, went WAAAAY out of my way to make sure he was safe on the rooftop and everything. Now that I'm in the Tampico, I discover the traitorous so-and-so still hates me.

I just searched every nook and cranny of this joint. I'll be damned if I've gotta go ALL THE WAY BACK to the save at the start of the DLC. Is there any kind of console command or mod that will make Dean my friend this time around?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:44 pm

Dead is really sensitive and it's STILL not completely clear what triggers him double crossing you. It's best to avoid any confrontational speech at all, INCLUDING skill checks. At the beginning when you first meet him, there's a speech check to say you'll save your questions for when he's done talking. That one is safe. However, there's also a skill check for explosives, for guns, and for merchantile, and it's not confirmed if any of those are safe. He'll take it as an insult to his ego if you seem more skilled than him, so it's best not to take the explosives check, the merchantile check or the guns check (though I think I took the guns check on my playthrough and it was safe). It may also be a good idea not to accidently shoot him; who knows?

Whatever the case, I wouldn't worry so much about being a completionist and sparing his life. Whatever they did to trigger Dean double-crossing the player is certainly more complex than other game triggers we've seen, and I would welcome it fully if in the future, devs were able to develop more game triggers that weren't so easy for the player to decode. It makes each new playthrough with Dead Money an adventure, cause you never know if Dean will double-cross you.


The wiki seems to suggest some generic speech options and the barter skill checks are his hot button:

His ego is very fragile, and the player is encouraged to take care not to bruise it when dealing with Domino, lest it carry dire consequences down the line. Expressing irritation, aggression, or contempt will earn his ire. Also, passing the Barter skill checks in his dialogues will turn him murderous later, as he takes the player's competence as a personal insult. Skill checks other than Barter checks are okay, as they are the only ones that will have a negative impact.

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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:53 pm

Interesting. I didn't realise that about him. I always chose the Explosives option and during the rest of the game was pretty much friendly toward him. He's never been hostile towards me, or anything. Inside the Sierra Madre when I found him later I had thought of choosing a different dialogue response, something less than nice, but never did, just preferred to be nice to everyone all the time (except Dog in the final conversation one time and that was one of those moments I thought I'd be dying and have to reload).
Maybe I should try different options just to see what happens, try and get those reactions that I've never had before.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:56 pm

Assuming the Dead Money DLC is the second item in your load order, try this console command prior to meeting Dean in the Tampico:

set "01001302".nDeanAttitude to 1

There are a couple opportunities to make Dean hate the player, but only one time when you can make Dean like the player. During the first conversation with Dean, you have a chance to say "I'll cooperate." Choose that. The speech check that shows up as a choice alongside "I'll cooperate" will make Dean hate the player.

Edit: choosing the Explosives option won't affect his attitude towards the player. It's the conversation point mentioned above that does.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:33 am

Interesting. I didn't realise that about him. I always chose the Explosives option and during the rest of the game was pretty much friendly toward him. He's never been hostile towards me, or anything. Inside the Sierra Madre when I found him later I had thought of choosing a different dialogue response, something less than nice, but never did, just preferred to be nice to everyone all the time (except Dog in the final conversation one time and that was one of those moments I thought I'd be dying and have to reload).
Maybe I should try different options just to see what happens, try and get those reactions that I've never had before.

Same here. I've done DM some 5 times and never had a hostile Domino.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:56 am

If you want Dean Domino to survive you have to tell him in the beginning dialogue that you will cooperate with him otherwise he will always consider you either a competitor or an enemy.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:29 am

Assuming the Dead Money DLC is the second item in your load order, try this console command prior to meeting Dean in the Tampico:

set "01001302".nDeanAttitude to 1

There are a couple opportunities to make Dean hate the player, but only one time when you can make Dean like the player. During the first conversation with Dean, you have a chance to say "I'll cooperate." Choose that. The speech check that shows up as a choice alongside "I'll cooperate" will make Dean hate the player.

Edit: choosing the Explosives option won't affect his attitude towards the player. It's the conversation point mentioned above that does.

Okay, trying this one...

...but I think I'm entering it wrong. Exactly as posted?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:50 pm

He's an [censored] anyways
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:44 pm

Just to chime in, the speech option in the initial meeting is safe. It's the barter checks you need to avoid, as these basically make you say 'I'm in charge, not you ghoul boy.' And during Strike Up the Band you cannot say any speech option or regular dialogue option that is threatening of him.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:07 pm

Okay, trying this one...

...but I think I'm entering it wrong. Exactly as posted?


Exactly as posted, including double quotes. The console should respond back:

set nDeanAttitude >> 1
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:55 pm

also accessing any of his secret stashes will piss him off, if he is with you. :)
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:32 pm

also accessing any of his secret stashes will piss him off, if he is with you. :)



This is why I love this game.

All these stupid little details and scripts just to make Dean Domino a sensitive mofo.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:11 am

also accessing any of his secret stashes will piss him off, if he is with you. :)

Curious. Dean just says things like 'Hey! Those are mine....' and 'Oh fine, help yourself' remarks when I do it, but it doesnt make him hostile to me.
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