This is more of a rant because you can't really change a game that's already out. I was excited for the companion options in Fallout 4 and avoided mostly all other fallout news. Recently found out that after the confirmed bachelor in Vegas and skyrim marriage. That ironically heterosixual marriage is "forced" upon the player. Can't really act like it's a "closet" thing either when the protagonists clearly loved their spouse. :Sigh: Maybe I've should've gotten standard instead of the pip boy edition.

you can have a relationship with your companions though and tell them you don't care about your wife

I think you still can. Can't say the marriage was that good or bad we really don't see much of it and after leaving the vault I can probably count on one hand how many times my PC has mentioned the dead hubby. Piper doesn't seem to care either nor did that lounge singer I picked up in a bar in Diamond City. My point is once you leave the vault the only familiy member the PC cares about is the son and that doesn't seem to be that much.

You need to explore some of the dialogue options, especially when you do certain main story quests. The PC (the male for me) is quite vocal and emotional about their son, at one stage my PC was roaring about being given back his son or so help him he'd do something horrendous.

NOTHING is FORCED on the players. Don't want it, don't play it. Really the power is in you.

The few times I have heard the female talk about the missing son the voice acting is very poor no emotion at all. Again I don't want to spoil anything but at Fort Hagan was the only time I saw emotion and like I said it was mostly in the form of a bad threat. As for dialog I do try to go through all that I can but sometimes the game just doesn't allow you to since it auto advances. It is all good I have embraced my new role.

Given the timeframe, a hetersixual marriage would have made sense, if a bit restrictive.

I'm playing my character as one who only did it because it was expected of her (she had a Law Degree! good for her), but, frankly she really didn't care about the baby and thought her husband was a bufoon.

To me, games like this are all about RP. Natalia is a nice person, in general, and very helpful as long as it benefits her.

Frankly I can't see her following through on a couple of the storylines though.

It's nice to know that she can have a relationship with any number or gender of followers, but, frankly, she'll probably stick with her dog.

If it were a gay marriage 'thrown' at us, I would not have bought the game, regardless of how amazing the game might be. Its just something too repulsive to play, even within a fictious setting/reality.

I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of gamers would also do the same.

There are just some things that will always remain social taboo (nevermind the objective problems around homosixuality being a norm) - when it comes to content within entertainment. Until people are vat grown, I doubt it will change, but I imagine society would be pretty scary by then.

You are full of it. Funny how it's just fine in Skyrim, any of the Dragon Age, even in Dragon's Dogma and most of those are years old. Nobody cares. Certainly not the "vast majority" of gamers. Probably wouldn't even have raised an eyebrow if you changed it to a gay relationship at the beginning with an adopted baby.

Me, I don't mind that it started off heterosixual. I mean, I just look at the context of the society that was in place at the beginning of the game. 1950's US? Homosixual marriage was unheard of.

Maybe it works in those other games because it doesn't have a context. I mean, honestly, none of those worlds actually existed to begin with.

I would like to think that most gamers aren't as pathetic as you.

to OP the gay married couple wouldnt be the "norm" in the 1950s besides you can get with any companion you want regardless of theirs or your gender.

Who is saying this is a heterosixual relationship? Who is to save the wife is not transgendered and the baby is adopted? Who is to say to say that the husband is not transgendered and the baby is adopted, or is the actual son?

A few possibilities, nothing is set in stone. You are straight, then play straight. If you are gay then play gay. If you don't like how the beginning plays out, my god it's a hibernation sleep slumber sickness. Make it what you want, don't go out on a tirade for nothing.

Use some commons sense people.

Just because those games had an option, doesn't make it the default - as is with fallout 4.

Furthermore, gamers can only be pushed so far, regardless of how 'progressive' people try to change the norm.

Gamers like what seems real - believable/consistent - not hand waving the matter of nature (like what's most natural).

LOOOOOOOOL

I can't believe people are whining about this. IT'S A WAY OF CHOOSING WHETHER TO PLAY AS MALE OR FEMALE.

"Pushed so far"? Oh come on. You can except mutants, homicidal maniacs, torture, synths, monsters and absolute devistation but you're stuck on a few [censored] and lisbians?

Whatever.

You sir have the problem. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. It's a one-player game. Make your choices and leave it at that.

I've already said that, in the context of the time period (1950's US), of course they wouldn't have a gay couple. So what. It doesn't make sense in this context, but, there's a whole big post-apocalyptic world out there. Ya find love where and with whom you can.

I know right. Why people get all butt hurt because their avatar doesn't wear their special sixuality on their sleeve is beyond me.

excuse me, you don't get to dictate what people like or dislike

Wow

All stories must start with at least a few assumptions.

I'm sure you could play it as being in the closet and still love (or a least like) your spouse if you want to.

I think every country would admit (as well as nature), that homosixuality is a fringe/minority thing (they're just very vocal). This fact is something that affects the basis of good fiction. If you want to redefine this reality, then you need a believable solution, not just that it magically works, because people in universe x are better/tolerant - that's not a fiction anymore - its political, nigh religious.

Like any category of people, they're plight is the 'worst', and anyone who doesn't accept their view is a biggot.

It's more about the story than Beth trying to restrict player freedom in regards to sixuality.
In FO3 your mothers death was forced upon you because of story reasons. In FO4 you're in a heterosixual relationship with a son because of story reasons.

It's Bethesda's game and they can make the story however they please. They still give you a ton of player freedom regardless of what position they lock you in for the main story to progress

This is true. But I think many gamers want to decide what those assumptions are. They do not want those assumptions being made for them by a developer. I think this is especially true in a Bethesda game, where we have traditionally had the freedom to create our own backstories.

you're entitled to your opinion, but i just don't agree. i don't think the world is so black/white.

i don't understand why sixuality and romance are thrown into games at all, it doesn't add anything imo. i respect that other people value it though.

They should have made the genders of both parents changeable instead of just switching between 2 presets. Or ideally, they shouldn't have had this complete garbage backstory and forced personality traits.