You're absolutely right, no one HAS to cater to clans, but the fact of the matter is that the dev team said many, many times that their aim for this game was to become a great competitive game and that it would cater to the competitive crowd. In the dev Q&A they even said that a lot of the people who are fans of their older games are clan members and very competitive gamers, and that Splash Damage would not leave them out. Then we spend $60 on their product and I have to work for 45 minutes just to get me and 2 friends on the same team. What an outrage, a disappointment, and a disgrace. They were obviously talking from their rear, because they cannot look me in the eye and tell me that they DID cater to the competitive crowd or that the fans of their older games would support this instead of feeling left out.

More like this guy, less from the rest.

I agree with Battlecry 100% and he said it exactly the way it should have been said. This game is one big oxymoron. It's incredibly brilliant and utterly stupid at the same time.

True, but if they had made this game more accessible then it would cater to clans. I mean it's a team base game why shouldn't it cater to clans as well. The first thing that pops into my mind when I here team base games is clans and Brink is one game that I don't want to play with randoms. I to am very disappointed with this nonsnsense as well, a very team base game and NO matchmaking lobbys is beyond stupid! If they do not fix this with there first major patch, then I will give Brink the "Golden Turd Award" and it will become a coaster.

Just saying this but do not forget this game came out for all platforms. PC Xbox PS3 etc. Lag or conect issuse may be directed to Xbox Live servers or PS3. As for the header of this thread and the trolls that followed. The main post here brings out alot of commen since stuff that well lets just face it. IT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME. What eve happen to a lobby where a group of friends could sit in talk BS then Hit the button and all of them will join the same game. I only play FPS on PC but not even the PC version has this. Also To note but COD Black ops failed to implement this as it is a basic aspect that a game should have, BUT HEY many people still play CODBO. So What is Brink missing.

1. To short of a game. The campin is short the muilti player is lame bc you are basicaly doing the same [censored] over and over. When I buy a game I dont spend 40-60 USD to be sick of it in a week. I pay to play for a good while and enjoy it.

2. Same [censored] differnt server. Where is the match options. The options here are ver limited on what you can do. Defeats the purpus of playing a MULITYPLAYER GAME if no one is on IE sick of doing the same [censored].

3. IMO The AR are [censored]. since when is hipfiring bettr then IRONsighting? I cant Iron sight kill from 20 yards away with a AR but if I hipfire with a SMG from that far I will? Shotgun in this game is just [censored]. If you are in the dudes face it shouldnt take 5 shots with the shotgun. Oh and the sniper since when is a headshot not auto kill? Dude Your [censored] head is blown off ur [censored] shouldes Die alread


Take COD battlefield an any other big ticket FPS and Mix in brink then you will have a game . The next GEN of FPS. [censored] I should sue Bethesda for fauls adverisment.

as for the Patches and [censored]. Look at blizzard and worldofwarcraft.. They still cant get it right. Do you really think these guys will get it NOPE

when a game is designed for pc in mind and you get it on a console what do you expect. The systems are now over 5 years old, and we have maximized the potential of them adding more stuff just isnt conceivable.

This game is setup like TF2 which guess what doesnt have a clan setup in it either nor does CS:S yet they are played round the world competitively. Brink doesnt need clan support in all honesty what it does need is more maps, and SDK ASAP. Amazing game with a sever limit on maps. We need more maps, and really need the SDK along with some more game modes. a Brink version of TF2's 2 Fort would be a VERY welcome addition!!!!

I don't know when forums became QQ pages for video games. Ever since I was a kid I would buy games thinking they were goin to be the bomb ass cookies and I've been dissapointed. To me I see that as something that just comes with playing video games. Rent it first next time. Why didn't you do your research if you have such a problem with this stuff. People are spoiled, they think they can just cry about anything that doesn't go their way.

If I complained as much as some people on these forums in IRL I would get put in my place, people would call me names and throw rocks at me because im acting like a mom throwing a hissy fit when somethings priced wrong at a store. Poop on that. They didn't make this game for you. You don't like it? Gamestop buys and sells games. Trade in your [censored] bro.

While this one person may be a minority indeed, I would say that he likely speaks for a great majority of console owners playing this game...at least PS3 players. I know that many ,many of us have been waiting for the one developer who will stand outside the box and offer clan support in a game. In today's world of casual games for casual players it would really be great to see at least one game out there for the competitive and hardcoe players. Such a game would absolutely need to have clan support! Whether the game makers ever realize it or not there is a huge market of players who aren't in the casual group and are looking for the one game to pull us all together. MAG was destroyed by the casual player crowd, Socom is now destroyed because of the game makers catering to the casual player crowd, Homefront flopped on it's face and now BRINK (which many of us have been waiting for thinking it would be the saving grace) looks like it will also go the casual player route.

The really sad thing is that it would only take one game....just one... to pull every one of us in and still every publisher/developer is afraid to take the leap. It seems they have no idea how many of us there are just waiting for someone to deliver that one game!

BTW...@ the OP...while I understand the frustration and the directing anger at Zipper for the MAG fiasco (and now the Socom fiasco), I have to point out that they are now owned by Sony. I honestly think Zipper had a great vision for MAG but were robbed of creative freedom. I thought it was perfectly clear from the early days of MAG beta and on through it's life that Sony pulled all the strings and made all the decisions. Zipper fully intended on giving the clan support that the game so desperately needed....that's what 2.0 was all about. But then Sony pulled the plug on the whole thing. Too many people put full blame on developers for what happens to games when it's actually the publisher who makes all final decisions! The other guys had it wrong...the publisher is the group to talk to! You can say all you want to the developer but in the end their hands are tied because it's the publisher who makes all the calls!

I always found the concept of clans to be....oh what's the word I'm looking for....starts with...Aha! Lame! That's the word lame. Frankly I wish the entire concept would die out in FPS games. If you want to play with your guildies go play WoW or something. I like the Fireteam concept in this game where you and some friends can either be the team or be a support cell within the team with your own dedicated voice channel. Clans to me are just a bunch of goobers taking a game waaaaay too seriously, just like the people who sit and play WoW for fourteen hours a day because their guild needs more DPS for a raid or something. That kind of competitive seriousness ALWAYS leads to griefing and general poor sportsmanship and lame gameplay for everyone that has to put up with clans when they aren't beating on each other.

LOL ^
have fun playin a dead game

dude is offering solid advice
while a dev doesnt have to cater to the hardcoe its important they do because its the hardcoe that keeps games ALIVE
casuals move onto the next new shiny thing once its out they dont stick to a game and play it for months, probably years like hardcoe peeps do

atm the game blows on consoles
i would have made a thread like this too but i dont care atm, i only spent 25$ on this brand new so its not affecting me much but the ppl who SD lied to will feel hard done by
they boasted about how competitive this game will be and how they support the clans and competitive community and then give them nothing? that is a sure fire way to piss off ppl and ensure they never buy another product from them again.....i for sure wont be buying another SD game if i have to be lied to in the 1st place to even purchase the damn thing

The Publishers put up these forums and do read them. The Publishers get our money therefore we have a right to complain. If people did not complain the companies of the world would give you crap and you would have to like it. This is why we have the BBB. So next time you get a recall notice, since you don't like to complain, don't take your car in and have the wheels fall off.

@stargiss Excellent comment

*facepalm* probably the stupidest thing ive read for the day.
u sound like u got stomped on 1 too many times as a random

news flash for u
FPS have always been competitive games way back with counter strike, unreal, quake, socom 1/2
if u want a super casual experience heard there is LittleBigPlanet or Viva Pi?ata for u


PS: clans and guilds are completely different in how they operate.......dont even bring a WoW guild and compare it with clans.....2 different things buddy. A Clan practice isnt a 14hour session.......who the F plays a shooter for 14hours straight practicing? no one
clans simply like playing one another because it makes the game challenging unlike stomping on unorganised randies like yourself all day

Good one. What country does this guy come from, certainly not the USA. We start as kids in competative teams( same as what clans are in video games) like baseball, gymnastics, or football. If you don't want to compete, then go paint.

And the nerd rage comes a flowing. I R SO 1337 I R NEEDINGZ BETTUR COMPETITIONZ THAN U BCUZ I SIT AND PLAY WITH MY CLANZ SIX HOURS A DAY LIKE IT R MY JOB. People like you are the type I'm talking about. Morons who get so wrapped up in the competitive aspect of the game that they ruin it. You obviously take it very seriously judging by the venomous way you came to the defense of the whole idea. Whatever man. You know what I hope you get your wish. I hope they set up a purely clan server so you and your HALO buddies can go get your "challenge" on and leave the rest of the game to people I actually enjoy playing with.

So str0b0 is apparently determined to prove he's a massive idiot, moving on.

bravo lol i was waiting for someone to step up to the plate and say something. i cant believe how stupid the original post is. it almost made me wanna kill myself. yes lobbies good. but returning a game if by june 30th they dont put roster lists and clan tags. hahaha stupidest thing i ever heard. can i make a request? if by june 30th they do not put dk mode from goldeneye i will return this game i am doneeeeeee. dk mode or its goneeee

Wow, what a sad sack.

I made a post a while back trying to explain why clan support is actually a benefit to the casual gamer. I make my point by stating this:

In a prison yard, you don't mix the gang members with the guys that got thrown into prison for a DUI. You don't mix the hardcoe guys with the guys that are just "passing through", which is what most gamers are.

There are those of us that will put over a 1000 hours on a game. You can throw your "get a life lolwut" comments at that all you like, but you're posting on an internet message board about a video game, so where do you think you fall exactly?

And considering we put that kind of time into a game, we quickly realize we don't want to mix it up with random idiots. Allow me to explain:
The vast majority of people are complete idiots in all regards
People buy and play video games
The Vast Majority of video game purchasers and players are complete idiots in all regards (and the worst of them play on consoles).

You can call me an elitist all you want, but you can't tell me I'm wrong.

I've seen on MAG how this plays out, when you put the competitive players with the casual/random player. The Clans run the game.

Clans do not exist because there are guys that are uber awesome at video games that get together to own on randoms (ok, some do). Clan come into existence because players get tired of playing with schmucks. Players that tend to approach a game from the same perspective tend to gravitate towards another and run together. Eventually they become online friends and while never meeting or even sharing a FB page, they communicate and know each other for years.

Clans aren't always about epeen measuring and smack talk. What it really comes down to is players playing with players like themselves. Then comes the trash talk, the raging, the QQing, and the lulz.

Not every clan you run into is good. In fact, most clans aren't all that good. They do just fine against a pack of random players, but fail against other clans. Which goes to support the theory that not all clans are super competitive. It's really just about playing with like minded guys and burning each other over the mic.

But since they are a clan, they're going to know each other's tendencies and will, through sheer familiarity, beat a squad with equal or slightly better talent that is full of randoms.

Now, if you take a clan that's dedicated to winning, like mine, and put us up against 8 random players?....it's going to be a massacre.

Separating the clans from the randoms actually helps both sides out. Always has, always will.

If you can't follow that, then there's no help for you. You'll always be a small minded simp that floats from game to game.

This..^^^ Couldn't say it better - a lobby system is good enough for normal folks, who have a life AFK.

Lol @OP, getting mad for not doing his research. You can't just go around assuming things, for a long while SD have been confirming there wouldn't be clan support. All you can do is add a few members and all just hop into each other's matches... which doesn't actually work too badly.

While it does need some form of clan support, it doesn't need the advanced features you want.