Don't bother. He's already disappeared and he's long gone.

The orc armour is really the only one so far that looks particularly impractical. It looks exceptionally heavy and has a lot of jutting out stuff. I preffered the OB one (except the helmet) but this one's still pretty cool.

BTW I'm refering to the concept art orcarmour, not the one he's wearing in the screen.

Who care whether it's high fantasy or realistic, the armor looks awesome and if it has good stats then I'll be happy regardless of look (As long as it's not pink).

I know, what the hell's up with that? Seems like he doesn't care about anyone else's opinions but his own.

By the way, the words "High Fantasy" should not be used to describe any TES game at all...

Depends on how you define it. The definition, being culturally defined, is varied and ambiguous, but it certainly fits by the Wikipedia definition, which is the most common definition used in fantasy literature.

High fantasy is Tolkien look it up, but I have been told the definition are different in videogames. Were High fantasy would be somthing like the over the top stuff in Final Fantasy while Low Fantasy would be TES. but I still think of TES as classic high fantasy. Skyrim even more so. That is the literary def and I am sticking to it(for now...).

I have yet to see a good thread by Jack.

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most armor looks pretty decent
Some are a little bulky while other seem to not cover a few places, but in the end, most of it looks cool and in a game with dragons in it, that's all that matters

Have you seen the armour on the front of the DA 2 box? Who want to have metal starfish on every joint? (No, not that kind of joint)

Nevermind, I shouldn't have posted, I didn't notice this thread was by Jack, since he changed his avatar.
This is verging on trolling here.

I am in love with the armor the Khajiit is wearing. It just seems so barbaric!

No kiddin...on topic yes you're the only one. It doesn't look any more unpratical that in previous TES games.

Well regardless, Skyrim is to be a low fantasy RPG. It's been confirmed by many sources. The armors and weapons being discussed are certainly not high fantasy.

Armor varies from place to place in Tamriel. In Morrowind, you had all those types of different dunmer armor and netch stuff. In Skyrim you get Nordic (Tamriel nords) mails and such. It's lore fitting and it suits the geographical qualities of Skyrim.

Low fantasy by some definitions. Others would definitely call it high fantasy, and having non-stupid weapons is not the deciding factor.

What about the khajit armor looks too over the top? I think it's more decorative than protective and it looks great. Also, which sword are you referring to? As someone else said, I'd expect a nord to be using a sword like the dovahkiin from the trailer. I'm sure there will be variety, as there apparently is in the armor selection. The trailer nord is wearing realistic stuff. Jack?

Well just because the people who talk about Skyrim choose to use the wrong definition of what high fantasy means doesnt mean that we should therefore all stick to the wrong definition.
There is a universal definition wich I had to learn at school and that is pretty much what wikipedia says it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy

That the developers use the wrong definition means we have to gently make them aware of that, not ourselves take over their mistake.
Elder Scrolls is high fantasy by definition because it takes place on a completely different and fantastical world, in wich our rules of nature largely dont apply.

Judging by everything we've seen so far, I'd pick the latter.

Yeah me too. :goodjob:

? Tamriel is the centre of the universe, the hub of a mystical wheel. The sun is a big hole to another realm.
The laws of nature are semi sentient and can be persuaded to act differently or cease function alltogether.
That, by definition, makes it high fantasy.

That the derived, smaller scale world where we actually spend our time acts more or less like our world is good writing, as far as Im concerned, but it doesnt change the fact that the planets in the sky are actually Gods.
.. I mean.. even your own quote agrees with me..

"Low fantasy is a term used to describe a variety of works within differing sub-genres of fantasy fiction. The word "low" refers to the level of prominence of traditional fantasy elements within the work, and is not any sort of remark on the work's quality. Within the fantasy genre, low fantasy is often contrasted with high fantasy, which typically takes place, partly or entirely, in a completely fictional setting and places an emphasis upon fantasy elements such as magic, monsters, and non-real literary devices. Low Fantasy works typically place relatively less emphasis on such fantasy elements and often take place within real-world environments, as opposed to entirely fictional settings."

Does that describe Tamriel? I think it does.

You're talking about lore that has absolutely no effect on the game world itself. I'm talking about actual environments, armor, weapons, people, and physics. Everything is becoming more realistic or low fantasy. That's why we no longer have Acrobatics and Athletics as skills. I'm pretty sure Todd himself has said Skyrim will be low fantasy.

Could you give an example of a weapon that looks to think and unrealistic? As for the armor, we have been over this before in another thread and we showed that the armor being "unrealistic" is false, as we gave real world examples of similar armor that people actually used in real life and looked just like those in the screens. I think most people think of Knight armor from medieval times when they think of armor and think it's the only kind but there is actually a very large range of armors and they all vary wildly as well.



Well personally, I liked the jazzed up warhammers better. The few warhammers in real life I've seen are so scrawny and pathetic, I wouldn't want to be wielding one of those lol, however, a TES warhammer is a different story :drool:

Now youre just grasping at straws.
The removal of acrobatics and athletics has in no logical fashion anything to do with things being more realistic.
No effect on the game? Dragons. Magic. Monsters. Elves.

The simple and plain fact is that according to the internationally recognised literary definition of high fantasy, elder scrolls games are high fantasy.
There are no ifs or buts about it.
Sheesh I simply cannot believe why you would argue about a dictionary defintion.

What is your motivation?

Man, you're not making sense. TES is by that definition high fantasy. Nirn is an entirely different world to Earth, and with very different rules. It's high fantasy. Acrobatics and athletics being skills are more realistic than people running and jumping exactly the same anyway, so I don't see your point there.

Low fantasy is more like Twilight. Fantasy elements hidden in the mundane in the normal world.

I doubt Skyrim is going to be that harsh and primitive dark fantasy everybody think it is, probably because that reminds me more of Conan, and I'm rather fond of this Medieval-Renaissance setting. This doesn't mean that there won't be any uncivilized areas in the game, in fact I expect the mountaintops to be a harsh place to live.

Also, no real low fantasy should be without something I like to call "Ghetto elves", elves who live in run down apartments, secluded from the rest of the city, because humanity conquered the elven kingdoms. They can be mainly found in Witcher and Dragon Age.
But something tells me Skyrim might get its own kind of Ghetto elves... Dunmer 4 life N'wah!

Oh yeah. Real life warhammers are just bland. I'm hoping for a badass artifact grade hammer based on Mjollnir (sp?) for my paladin type warriors.