http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy i think tes incorporates many of the features that make something high fantasy it is set in a completely different universe and its plot usually involve epic battles of good vs evil se to the backdrop of a cataclysmic event, i dont think all JRPGs can be labelled high fantasy either as one JRPG can be quite different to the next

Concept art tends to be overdesigned anyway.

Maybe he just wants to express his opinion regarding an aspect of the game, but has no interest in the tedious aftermath, in which the same predictable few posters descend to hurl rhetoric and fallacies somewhere in the general direction of any opinion with which they disagree.

To the topic - Skyrim, it seems to me, should be relatively low fantasy. Whether it will be or not remains to be seen, and can't really be fully judged from the limited information we have. I could see Beth going either way with it, just because both ways would appeal to a portion of their target audience, and I don't see that one is notably more profitable than the other. And personally, I don't much care. What it is makes less difference to me than whether or not it's internally consistent. The important part is successfully maintaining the suspension of disbelief, so my only concern is that they'll try to appeal to too many different tastes and end up with an unbelieveable mish-mash of things rather than an internally consistent, and thus believeable, world.

indeed it doesnt matter what type of fantasy they go for as long as it makes sense within the tes universe

If you read the first page you would have seen I called him out on it.

I love everything I've seen of the weapons/armor.

I don't think the swords look too big, keep in mind they're barbarian swords. Think of Conan the Barbarian and the swords in that. And I think the armour looks fine. I'm sure there will be more mundane looking armours like chainmail and leather.

I really dislike that kind of over-stylised and big look of armour and weapons in some fantasy games (Dragon Age 2 comes to mind) but so far I'm liking the look of Skyrim. I would like to see some short blades because that is what I'll be using. But I particularly like the bow in the shot of the khajiit. It looks very plain and functional which I like.

The title alone of this thread is kind of funny. I mean, all in all I don't mind the actual content of wanting the weapons to look more realistic, it's sensible even if I don't agree. But the title is a head-scratcher considering this is a high fantasy series.

I believe all of the armors and weapons seens so far are nice and fitting for the TES-universe, though if I have to point out somethings I'm not overly fan of it's the sword and armor the orc wears. It just seems kinda, I'm not sure... The sword is too jagged and cartoonish, and the armor is a little too massive. Or maybe they're not and it's just me being bad at judging things by screenshots only.

I think it is high fantasy with a low fantasy feel to it, because we dont use ridiculous over sized swords, and we dont jump 50 feet in the air on an attack, or wear crazy armor designed by some Goth [censored] with a penchant for [censored] art, JMO but I think an efficient one.

See, this whole "high fantasy = fruity-flaky-overstylized JRPG" thing - I just don't get it. High & Low Fantasy, as concepts, have existed alot longer than JRPGs. The whole stylized Amano/Squeenix thing? Has nothing to do with it. Yes, a good number of JRPGs may be High Fantasy settings. But that doesn't mean that they define the concept.



(Disclaimer - I play & like JRPGs, as well as TES games, and Bioware games, and pen-and-paper RPGs, etc, etc, etc. So don't take my comments as criticism, if you're one of the apparently few people on this forum who doesn't automatically hate every game that isn't TES.)

I would rather wear a little too massive armor on my hulking brute of a character, then more reasonable armor on my character, that looks like he would be more at home in a library then out sword fighting and exploring.

By the way, if body sizes scale now how are they doing the armor? I thought they said it was too much to scale all the armor sizes in Oblivion, so that's why all characters were the same build.

Probably (and it aplies to other things, too, imo) ! :yes:

This is a good question.

I haven't really seen anything that says you can scale your character's body, but I have seen things saying that every race/gender will have a unique body mesh, and that all the armor types will have variations made to fit all 20 race/gender combinations.

So all male Nords will look like 350 pound, roided up monsters?

I would imagine the new physics engine makes it possible, they are no longer using the same physics engine that ran the last 2 TES or the Fallouts. Other games have no problem so I imagine the new stuff makes it possible,... make sense to me anyway.

ZOMG YOU WANT TO SWERD FIGHT AND EXPLORE TINGS?

All I want to do is chop wood and go home to well-prepared pixelated meals from my pixelated wife and raise pixelated kids and maybe get a pixelated dog after a few years, you know, once the pixelated kids are old enough to be responsible enough to have one.

Basically I want to do things in Skyrim that I could do in real life. I can't believe they make me some kind of hero that can incinerate dragons and make the whole word defecate themselves at the mere sight of me, I want to be bob the builder.

I think it's pretty apparent, that Skyrim is Supposed to be more "Low Fantasy" type. But remember, especially when pulling up Equipment design. Skyrim is part of Nirn, right next door you have Morrowind, Cyrodiil, High Rock, ect. Some of these items are obviously imported, and contrast with the native style of Skyrim.

Look at the Leather, Iron and Scale armors we've seen. They're decidedly Low Fantasy, and we can assume those are Skyrim Native, given their "Rugged and practical" kind of style

On the other hand, the Elven armors, such as Glass, chitins and the Namesake Elven armor, are not Skyrim-made, so why should they look like they are?

The Nord pc in the trailer is smaller than the one in the screen where he is shirtless in the dungeon and all you see is his back. Looks like more than one body model per gender race to me.

OMG this goes back to every1s favorite reply,... If you actually read all the info released and listen to podcasts and video interviews you will Know that they most certainly have said we will be able to scale our characters body,,,..... not to be rude people but it isnt like their is tons of info to sift thru to know everything up to this point go to web sites that will break down the info for you if thats what you need they are not hard to find.

Only thing I don't like that much is the armour the Orc wears. Everything else looks great. Love the way they're doing it.

Skyrim is a low fantasy game btw.

Well, somewhere i read that the setting would be significantly inspired in Conan stories (I think t′was in an early GameInformer interview but Im not sure) and I always regarded Robert E. Howard′s work as low-pulp fantasy

Nothing wrong with it IMO, TES is high fantasy, by both definitions (older and newer). It always will be.

Anything is better than that, it looks fine, besides the lack of...