Not really an Empire anymore is it?

Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:36 pm

Do you seriously think the Thalmor had any more chance of fighting a great war again, do you? They weren't in a better position to force those demands, and the Empire had an idea of that too.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1453352-taking-sides-between-imperials-or-stormcloaks-but-what-about-the-orcs-and-forsworn/?p=22489750

Either they just got scared and doubted their sources or something else convinced the council to get Mede to sign that treaty.
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Jeff Tingler
 
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Post » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:46 am

Are you denying that the Empire pulled their armies from Hammerfell, even though it was being invaded, to take back the Imperial City? If so, too bad. He risked losing an entire province to Dominion control to take back the city that housed the Empire's government before the sacking.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:43 pm

Hey Killabee, that is one pimpin Nord in your avatar.

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Ashley Hill
 
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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:28 pm

They have the Advantage at night which is when they do all their raids. People seem be missing the fact that they do NOT have to fight the Nords in a stand up battle on the surface to cripple their ability to effectively fight the Thalmor in the next war let alone their ability to fight any of their neighbouring provinces. An army can't survive without it's supply lines. Having caravans attacked all over the place and scurrying back into the caves and ruins before they can respond would be absolutely devastating well they're busy fending off an invasion or worse yet their forces are away trying to invade cyrodil or Highrock. When they aren't out on the surface raiding during the night they are practically untouchable by the Nords or Imperials without draining Massive amounts of forces stopping them from coming out and running amok or going in to deal with them.

The Falmers intelligence may be higher then it seems, They're blind so obviously a written language would be pointless for them. But they can cast magic all it takes is a flame spell to burn down Wooden buildings and damage farms. They also seem to have started capturing a lot of slaves of all races (Hm although I don't think I've yet to see an Orc captured or killed by them for some reason yet I'll have to keep an eye out for one now) within the last few decades in skyrim for a race that is barely smarter then goblins. I doubt they would start doing that solely to torture them and eat or feed them to the Chaurus, They where clearly capable of feeding themselves and their Chaurus via other means for the last several thousand years.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:41 pm





:D He appreciates the compliment.

To do all that you just said, they'd most certainly need to attack the armies this way. Supply lines aren't unprotected, and also they'd need vision to be able to target supply lines. Their attacks would be completely random. They wouldn't even understand what supply lines are or what armies are. They wouldn't be able to counter tactics of them either. They know one way to fight and one way only. They'd be annoyances at best in their current state.

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Post » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:23 am

Looks like this went off topic.

Went from is the Empire an Empire (Yes, even if its declining), to the Great War, to Falmer invasions.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:22 pm

You're really down-playing the heightened sense of a blind people.

They'd understand exactly what a supply caravan is. They've also got flying cockroaches as scouts and poisonous centipedes as watch-dogs.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:08 pm

They'd understand it based on what? One would need to study or at least have fought a war before to do so. And their heightened senses aren't THAT good. Outside of Kung-fu movies. But then again, this is TES. Still, there are just some things one absolutely needs sight for.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:43 pm

The Falmer are said to be carrying out a remembered sense of vengeance, however. I agree they're a potential threat to the surface- a lot of hints point in that direction. Whether they're going to pour forth en masse like Hevnoraak hopes they will, can't say.

Now now, princess, those of us who engage in these debates often are all students of politics and history. The emperor felt he had no choice, just as the legion felt it had no choice to abandon Morrowind, but if you expect the residents to be all charitable and understanding then you're dreaming. The redguard didn't want to be ruled in the first place, and neither did the Dunmer. It was forced on them. And in their darkest hour, the empire proved a fickle friend, let alone protector. So things take their course from there.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:39 pm

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120612155206/elderscrolls/images/c/c3/Chaurus_3D.png

http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/images/26994-1-1353107847.jpg

And they also have the bonus of being far, far more deadlier than cuddly little Irish Hounds and Huskies.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:42 pm

Yup. Pretty good example of why having the Imperials in charge doesn't seem appealing to me. They are fair weather friends, using the resources of the provinces to rule them in times where they are unchallenged, but when the chips are down, the provinces got nothing to show for it, other than being left to their own merits.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:13 pm

Your constant underestimation of their ability's is exactly why they're such a threat, Ulfric and most of the Jarls and other Nords and Tulius and the Imperials would underestimate the "stupid goblins" as well and it would come back and bite them. It also very likely it will.

Oblivion? Cyrodill devastated within decades following events of the game

Morrowind? Morrowind devastated within decades following the events of the game

Skyrim? I'm sure you can guess where this is going if they continue the trend established with the last two games.

Lets see the possible events that could befall Skyrim in the future

Falmer attacks.

Thalmor Invasion.

Prolonged civil war between internal nordic factions if they successfully drive Cyrodill out.

Great war & it's consequences.

Unforeseen consequences of defeating Alduin.

Future events set by Arcanos messing with they Eye of Magnus.

Whatever they decide to do with the Dragonborn.

Further prolonged conflicts with Neighbouring provinces.

If Paarthurnax survives the events of the game, perhaps the blades where right and him and the remaining dragons manage to reform the Dragon cult or do something else to cause chaos.

Unlikely but still plausible Akavir invades Tamriel again.

Whatever caused Atmora to freeze over and drive the Atmorans out in the first place starts to effect Skyrim and northern Tamriel.

Something Relating to Snow-throat tower, whether the tower is the Throat of the world or something else.

Hermaeus Mora gets bored

Though some of those are less likely than others, Id rank the Falmer causing trouble as the most likely and the one with the most in game evidence to back it up. But it could be something entirely different that Bethesda comes up with. But I'm certain enough that skyrim is not going to come out of following events Unscathed that I would bet money on it.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:50 pm

And to meet the lions share of the Domiinion's deployed forces in battle in hopes of destroying them. But to you and other Ulfric fans, that doesn't matter, because since the Empire did it, it was obviously shortsighted and wrong.

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Post » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:25 am

I don't see how this helps them develop advanced strategies of war or even function as a basic army unit.

Unlikely is putting it very nicely. And as I said to Hev on the topic of provinces going to hell after the game, thats two out of 5. A lot of people underestimated that guy with the skeever army too... Enough said. The most I could see is increased attacks around Markarth. Maybe groups coming forth the way they do in the hidden vale. But not an army. They won't be storming Markarth. They have falmer below Markarth now and they haven't made a move.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:04 pm

An Empire is a monarchy ruled by a person holding the title of Emperor. The Empire of Cyrodiil is ruled by an Emperor that is universally recognized as such.

Japan doesn't control anything else but its home islands, yet it has all the legitimacy to call itself an Empire.

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_African_Empire :P

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Post » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:46 am

Are you seriously comparing the Skeever nut-case to the Falmer? lol.

Ok then. Back to the Empire.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:33 pm

It was a joke. Should've added a smiley face I suppose.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:12 pm

Let me make myself clear on the Falmer bit. Is what you two are suggesting possible? Sure. I just don't think its a big enough possibility to bring up in conversation. A lot of things in doomsday scenarios for Tamriel and individual provinces are "possible". But how likely are they? And is the worst case scenario likely enough to consider for the great war? I don't think so. Something bigger than increased falmer activities past what we are aware of currently would be in the more distant future I believe when the Falmer evolve more.

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:04 pm

It still is, just like anyone can call anywhere home although it's not a house.

The Empire is all well and good, but as Galmar said:
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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:22 pm

Nope not an Empire anymore. Now it's officially called

"The Aldmeri Dominion of Cyrodill, High Rock and Western Skyrim."

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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:40 pm

Now that's what I call "fixed"
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Post » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:19 am

Germans call themselves The Holy Roman Empire, they are not even Romans and not a Roman Empire

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Post » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:52 am

The White Humans Empire.

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Alycia Leann grace
 
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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:45 pm

Well, Bretons are half elves. So maybe White Humans with half elves on top?
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Post » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Wouldn't matter much if we were to start throwing the white word around. Although the redguards did in the sword meeting of Vivec and Cyrus. I doubt they'd pay much attention to technicalities. Not that this is relevant at all really or anything.

edit: Oh dur, you meant the human bit. Fail. Its late, so forgive me. Still, bretons I think would still be considered human, although they are called "Manmer". But they aren't the ones ruling the Empire.

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