I now hate the Resident Evil fanbase

Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:34 pm

Before I begin this topic I just want to apologize and say I hope I'm not offending members here who actually are fans of the Resident Evil series. This rant isn't really aimed at the individual fans themselves, but rather the fanbase as a whole who I have recently become annoyed with and no longer wish to associate myself with despite the fact that I still enjoy these games.

I have played these games since the very beginning when the first title was released in the good ol' 1990's. Even though there were other games before this one that counted as horror, this was considered by many gamers one of the first successful survival horror titles that inspired many other games that followed its formula such as the Silent Hill and Fatal Frame series. The games revolved around the evil Umbrella Corporation that conducted illegal and inhumane experiments on animals and human test subjects using the T-virus, which turned them into zombies and mutants. Occassionaly there would be an accident and this virus would leak from one of their many labs, turning nearby people into terrifying monsters. You would play as a characters who find themselves trapped in an zombie outbreak and using guns with limited ammo and medicinal items they would have to fight there way out and survive. Though the first few games had some notable flaws such as the horrid voice acting and inconsistent plot holes, they did pretty well for themselves and earned a dedicated fanbase. However the popularity of the series started declining shortly after Resident Evil 0 and Capcom decided to take the series into a new direction with Resident Evil 4.

Resident Evil 4 became the first truely successful Resident Evil game and sold millions of copies. This game was different from the others because the survival-based gameplay was removed and replaced with a more action shoot-em-up style. Ammunition for guns and health items were no longer rare and often found on enemy corpses or hidden in wooden crates that were scattered all over the place, and instead of finding weapons you could now purchase them by using gold currency found in the game. The aiming system was improved and you had a laser point to show where your character aims instead of auto-aiming. However I think the biggest change that fans remember was how the classic zombies were taken out and replaced with melee-weilding villagers who had giant parasites popping out their heads. Because this new style of gameplay for the series was so well-recieved by critics it eventually made its way to the sequel Resident Evil 5.

Now I just want to say that I'm not one of those fan rhymes-with-toys who has an unwavering hatred for the new games despite how fond I was of the classic games. While the new games are different, I still find them to be highly enjoyable. But I digress. My problem with the Resident Evil fanbase now is how split they are due to the new direction the series has taken. You now have the Old School fans who are always whining about how they miss the old games and want Capcom to make every new sequel a remake of Resident Evil 1-3 with nothing but improved graphics, and you have the New School fans who make fun of the old games for being supposedly boring just because of the dated graphics and the gameplay that they themselves didn't understand. I feel kind of torn on this because I enjoy both the old and new games, yet every time I browse a Resident Evil forum I feel like I'm forced to pick a side, and I can't choose both sides without risking both sides insulting me and accusing me of not being a "true fan".

I know people here who are familiar with the Fallout series will see it as kind of similar to the split between Bethesda Fallout 3's fans and the fans of the original Fallout games. However for me it's different because I only played Fallout 3 and never played the old games so it was pretty easy for me to choose a side. With Resident Evil I like both sides yet it feels as if though I'm not allowed to have it both ways, so I choose neither and even though I still love the games I refuse to have anything to do with the rude and immature fanbase. They can fight over their precious games all they want now, but I'll just buy and play the games for as long as Capcom keeps making them. :yes:
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:10 pm

It's called a "Fan Dumb." Everything (and I do mean everything) that has a large fanbase also has at least one inevitable division amongst it. Get used to it.

Oh, and Resident Evil was selling millions right from the beginning, not from part 4. Just so you know.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:42 am

It's called a "Fan Dumb." Everything (and I do mean everything) that has a large fanbase also has at least one inevitable division amongst it. Get used to it.

Oh, and Resident Evil was selling millions right from the beginning, not from part 4. Just so you know.


True, but Resident Evil 4 was the first to be a major hit and the only one to be ported on every system except for the original Xbox. That can be good or sad depending on how you want to look at it.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:11 pm

RE4 was very successful, sure, but the series was always popular. Popular enough to reach a fourth installment in the first place, and the first game was on more systems than 4.

That particular conflict, though, you'll find everywhere. Games change through artistic vision and attempts to improve and advance them, and they change through attempts to keep them relevant for new audiences. It always starts fights when they change. The older players are angry because the games they like aren't made anymore, and throw the blame at their "shallow, half-assed" replacements. Newer players are unsympathetic because they prefer the changed games, and patronize the older ones with claims that their games are inferior and only liked through nostalgia. I've seen those arguments start with a single game, not even a series, and before it's released.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:42 am

RE4 was very successful, sure, but the series was always popular. Popular enough to reach a fourth installment in the first place, and the first game was on more systems than 4.

That particular conflict, though, you'll find everywhere. Games change through artistic vision and attempts to improve and advance them, and they change through attempts to keep them relevant for new audiences. It always starts fights when they change. The older players are angry because the games they like aren't made anymore, and throw the blame at their "shallow, half-assed" replacements. Newer players are unsympathetic because they prefer the changed games, and patronize the older ones with claims that their games are inferior and only liked through nostalgia. I've seen those arguments start with a single game, not even a series, and before it's released.


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Actually once Resident Evil 4 gets ported to the Playstation Network and Xbox Live, it will officially be released on more systems than the first game, though it will only be one system more. Anyways I think I'm splitting hairs here so I'm just going to drop it.

If this is the way all fanbases are then maybe I should stop taking part in the gaming community and learn to enjoy all games as a casual form of entertainment instead of becoming an aficionado. I mean what with my new job and college coming up I won't have as much time to dedicate to these things as I used to, so I guess I'll just have to make a choice in the end.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:58 am

Yeah, this is true of a lot of fan bases, and including two of the ones located here on this forum. Personally, I think most of the actual arguing is done by a rather loud minority rather than the majority of the fan base.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:02 pm

Yeah, this is true of a lot of fan bases, and including two of the ones located here on this forum. Personally, I think most of the actual arguing is done by a rather loud minority rather than the majority of the fan base.

This is highly true. I would say that if we put a poll of what "TES game is your favorite" there would be a large amount of votes for each one. I played Morrowind first, then Oblivion and I tried to go back to Arena and Daggerfell and I couldn't do it because I couldn't get used to the graphics and the controls were awkward, yet just because I didn't have a "good" experience with the first two doesn't mean I'm not a TES fan.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:40 am

im split as well on the RE games. i really loved the old games but i have a hard time playing them these days since now i prefer the first person view. im still waiting for the perfect RE game. it would be an FPS with slow moving zombies and some fast moving monsters as well, like those green guys in RE1. there should be very limited ammo and very few weapons. medical supplies should be rare as well. basically an old RE game with first person view.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:14 am

This rant isn't really aimed at the individual fans themselves, but rather the fanbase as a whole

Did you know a whole of anything is made up of individual somethings?
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:48 am

Substitute Resident Evil for Heavy Metal, and I feel you 100percent.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:27 am

OP I don't get why you must pick a side. Enjoy games for your own reason. It's a game, not a "I'm a better RE fan" e-peen contest.

I will disagree with RE4 being the "first" successful game in the series. RE4 was a great game and I liked the different style it had. RE1 got the series started on a good note, but it was RE2 that got the series the notoriety and units sold to allow RE4 to be successful.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:12 am

Yeah, this is true of a lot of fan bases, and including two of the ones located here on this forum. Personally, I think most of the actual arguing is done by a rather loud minority rather than the majority of the fan base.

That is almost always the case. Everywhere. Heck, even the bloody Enlightenment was like that.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:10 am

I find the idea of a fanbase as a collective entity rather stupid, to be honest. Why can't we just say that half of the individual fans like it one way and half like it the other way? Why do we have to assume they're some sort of organised military force?
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:43 pm

I find the idea of a fanbase as a collective entity rather stupid, to be honest. Why can't we just say that half of the individual fans like it one way and half like it the other way? Why do we have to assume they're some sort of organised military force?

Because people like to put pigeons in holes, or however they say.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:15 am

Same thing just happened with Dragon Age :lmao:

I for one can enjoy bot pre- and post- RE4 resident Evils, however i think the RE1 Gamecube remake is the best in the series. A shame they didn't remake RE2 that way :(
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:49 pm

Resident Evil 4 the most successful? i disagree, If it wasnt for the past games, it wouldnt have even made it to number four, Resident Evil 2 Imho, gave the series the fame, and the success.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:30 am

I can't wait for the release of Code Veronica and 4 on the 360. I hope it comes on a disk that I can install without it running the disk. Anyone know when the release is?

Resident Evil 5 was okay. I'm glad I diddnt drop $60 for that game.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:21 pm

Resident Evil 4 became the first truely successful Resident Evil game and sold millions of copies.

Actually, RE2 on the PS1 sold more than 3 times as many copies as the GC release of RE4 (http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html vs 1.6 million), as well as selling almost a million more copies than the PS2 and Wii versions of RE4 combined. It's pretty fair to say that RE2 was the first huge success for the series.
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:26 am

With Resident Evil I like both sides yet it feels as if though I'm not allowed to have it both ways, so I choose neither and even though I still love the games I refuse to have anything to do with the rude and immature fanbase.

I really don't see how this is special for the Resident Evil fanbase, though. Just because it's easier for you to pick a side of the immature fanbase here regarding Fallout, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I would say the Resident Evil fanbase is better because of this, because there you didn't pick a side, while you said you picked a side in the very similiar "Fallout war". Anything that makes you do less immature stuff is good.
RE4 was very successful, sure, but the series was always popular. Popular enough to reach a fourth installment in the first place, and the first game was on more systems than 4.

Indeed, I know of several people who bought a Playstation to be able to play the first Resident Evil. It was a rather huge success that turned several acquaintances of mine to gamers from non-gamers.

I never cared much about the game myself though, always prefered the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f17RCVsdlSg :P
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Post » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:49 am

Cool Story Bro :tops:



Really, I hate fan bases like that. The dinosaurs and the newbies. A war that goes on in so many franchises. I'm stuck in your same position but in Fallout games, I love the old and new games. But it seems I have to either hate the new Bethesda games and wish everything was a turn based RPG or I need to love Fallout 3 and NV and not have even played Fallout 1 + 2. Ughhh

BTW Resident Evil didn't suddenly become popular at RE4, most of my friends and I knew about Resident Evil during the 1-3 years.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:14 pm

RE4 is one of my favorite games of all times, Probably my favorite on the gamecube, RE5 was fun, the co-op was really fun, sitting with my buddy on the couch. But i think RE5 wasn't even sorta scary, RE4 was a little more scary cause you were by yourself for most of it, and when you weren't you were escorting a useless girl around whos skill set involved ducking and getting grabbed by creepy villagers.

I didn't enjoy the games b4 Re4, i tried but i couldn't get into them. That said i don't make fun of the old ones, in their day they were really popular, and apparently still are. Capcom also still makes or remakes games in that style so i guess all fans can enjoy what they like
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