So now that we experienced Skyrim what's your favorite Elder

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:37 am

I'm not talking about numbers. I"m talking about content. If you give me the choice between a game that has 5 quests that are essentially fetch quests, and 2 that have much more lore and rich interactions, I will go with the latter.

You didn't exactly explain how Skyrim's quests are all lore and rich interaction and how Morrowinds are all fetch. I fail to see how Skyrim "Raid dungeon get item at end" or "Raid dungeon kill boss at end" quests are different from Morrowind quests.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:07 pm

Why does there need to be anything like that in Skyrim? If you are talking about the 36 lessons of Vivec, yes, they were very interesting, but they were unique to the world and aesthetic of Morrowind. The history of the Thalmor and the Dragonborne, as well as many other things replace that now, because those things are relevant to whats going on in the current age. Besides, you are only talking about lore. The lore of Morrowind is simply built into the rest of the series as it continues.

You miss the point.
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Harry Leon
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:46 pm

Skyrim is my favourite.

That doesn't mean more features from Morrowind shouldn't be added, though.
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Jonathan Montero
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:37 am

So you go with Morrowind then?


Nope. Skyrim.
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Steven Nicholson
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:10 pm

Morrowind modified is better than vanilla skyrim. If Skyrim has great mods like morrowind then skyrim wins hands down.

But I would rather play an unmodified oblivion, YUCK, than an unmodified morrowind.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:01 pm

Oblivion? *throws up*


Long time ago now tho isn't it. Back @ the millenium it was pretty stunning.

I voted Oblivion anyway. I'm not a huge fan of it nowdays, but something about the art direction and the music just blew me away. It was also by far and away the most beautiful game I had ever seen/played at that time.

The music in Skyrim is amazing, but Oblivion just remains timeless. Shame about the rest of it. :obliviongate:
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:47 am

Oblivion? *throws up*


I threw up this morning right after waking up abrubtly...

And right before waking up I was dreaming about Oblivion...

:bowdown:
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:14 am

I never really got into Morrowind, I feel people love it so much mostly for nostalgia and that it wasn't THAT awesome. Please don't murder me, that it just my opinion
EDIT: For example, I feel that if Skyrim was released when Morrowind was and Morrowind released today (with graphcis swapped obviously) everyone would be saying 'Yeah, Morrowind is good, but it sure isn't a Skyrim!!!".
Skyrim is my favorite of course that is hard to say without bias since I'm still playing a lot of it. Maybe once I start getting bored of it in a year I will be able to judge it more fairly but I imagine my opinion won't change.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:08 pm

I never really got into Morrowind, I feel people love it so much mostly for nostalgia and that it wasn't THAT awesome. Please don't murder me, that it just my opinion.
Skyrim is my favorite of course that is hard to say without bias since I'm still playing a lot of it. Maybe once I start getting bored of it in a year I will be able to judge it more fairly but I imagine my opinion won't change.



Given that a lot of us are still playing morrowind I don't really think it is nostalgia. I could just as easily say those who voted for skyrim just like new and shiny things and mistake graphics and a shallow radiant AI for depth and content. Why don't we just go with some people like different things?
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:27 pm

You didn't exactly explain how Skyrim's quests are all lore and rich interaction and how Morrowinds are all fetch. I fail to see how Skyrim "Raid dungeon get item at end" or "Raid dungeon kill boss at end" quests are different from Morrowind quests.


Well, because Skyrim takes something that started with Oblivion and expands upon that. While there could be a quest that has you exploring a dungeon to find an item, there are many dungeons that have stories behind them, and as you explore them, you find out more things about that location. Kinda like that first dungeon you explore in Oblivion when you first leave the sewers. That's one example.

I'm trying not to give any spoilers, though.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:01 am

I chose morrowind, but skyrim is really good too.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:24 pm

Given that a lot of us are still playing morrowind I don't really think it is nostalgia. I could just as easily say those who voted for skyrim just like new and shiny things and mistake graphics and a shallow radiant AI for depth and content. Why don't we just go with some people like different things?


Good point, but I have played Morrowind and I never quite saw the "depth" of it. But to deny that Skyrim does indeed have lots of content is a flimsy argument.

Also I stand by my edit which you missed.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:00 pm

I'm personally tied with three #1 games

1. Daggerfall/Oblivion and Skyrim (and thats Skyrim out of the box!)
2. Morrowind

I have to say though, just hanging out in Skyrim is AMAZING.. give it some time, with the right mods.. more magic (levitation etc) more DLC

I have no doubt, Skyrim WILL be the GOAT and wont even be in question.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:53 pm

Daggerfall
Skyrim
Oblivion/Morrowind
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:38 am

EDIT: For example, I feel that if Skyrim was released when Morrowind was and Morrowind released today (with graphcis swapped obviously) everyone would be saying 'Yeah, Morrowind is good, but it sure isn't a Skyrim!!!".

I disagree completely.

For me, there's very little Skyrim does better than Morrowind besides graphics and combat. In your scenario, that would no longer be the case and Morrowind would be superior in every possible way.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:01 am

Good point, but I have played Morrowind and I never quite saw the "depth" of it. But to deny that Skyrim does indeed have lots of content is a flimsy argument.

Also I stand by my edit which you missed.



Both games have a lot of content in the open world sense. I think morrowind was heavier in story content where Skyrim is heavier in one off side quest content. Skyrim has a lot less content on the how you interact with the world side though. What is better 11 things to do and only 2 ways to do it, or 8 things to do and 6 ways to do it?

As for your edit, I stand by the point that a lot of people who voted for morrowind are still playing it so it is not just nostalgia like you are suggesting. I suspect if morrowind was released right now with the same graphics engine as skyrim and the more action oriented non-die roll combat system no one would even consider skyrim to be in the same league, as morrowind curb stomped skyrim in the polls.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:28 am

You miss the point.


It wasn't your point. I wasn't responding to you.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:58 pm

Morrowind. I'll reserve judgement on Skyrim until it's a bit more worn in. So far though, it's feeling a bit too stripped down for my liking, and for that reason I don't see it claiming top spot. I want more spreadsheets, dammit.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:17 pm

Morrowind. If it had Skyrim's visuals and combat, nobody would even ask this question.


Agreed. I've played Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. Morrowind in terms of story, lore, and atmosphere is amazingly better than just about any game around. There have been definite gameplay improvements (though not entirely- I'm in the 'less hand-holding, please' camp), but although Skyrim is a big improvement over Oblivion in terms of story and atmosphere, Morrowind is still tops and for an immersive RPG world that's what decides the question, IMO.

1.Morrowind
2.Skyrim
3.Tough call... Daggerfall in its time was pretty amazing and overall I'd rather play Oblivion I guess, but that has mostly to do with gameplay advances since Daggerfall's time.
-Oblivion, I guess
4.Daggerfall
5.Arena
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:22 pm

Daggerfall will always be my favorite, but there's a lot of nostalgia involved in that opinion. As someone who's been with the series for fifteen years now, I really do feel like Skyrim is the first real sequel to Daggerfall, and it's easily my second favorite. They nailed the tone of the world, and unlike Morrowind it's actually fun to play as a video game. Playing MW and to a lesser extent Oblivion always just felt like doing chores to me. Then again, after years of reading people's opinions on Morrowind on this forum, I'm pretty sure the only explanation is that I bought some other game with the Morrowind label on it.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:05 am

It wasn't your point. I wasn't responding to you.

So?

This IS a forum, after all.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:16 pm

1) Skyrim
2) Morrowind
3) Oblivion
4) Daggerfall

never played the rest...

Despite the criticism (which happens everytime a new TES game comes out, (Morrowind got the same treatment when it came out, people have short memories), Skyrim is an awesome, epic game. It is full of incredible, non-scripted events that really make the game shine. Examples:

I'm fighting some bandits outside of town, one of the nearby townspeople comes to "help" me take them out with a dagger. This farmer gets slaughtered, but I finish off the bandits. Due to the battle, the town guard comes running over (a little too late), and start asking what happened, and I get friggin' questioned about the dead farmer!! Framed!! Being a rogue character, I just take off running, hoping everything works itself out.

Another example, I get attacked by a dragon in the middle of a town. The guards, and some citizens, come to my aid. Other town residents go running for their lives. The dragon makes short work of a few guards, throwing them around like ragdolls while I pump it full of arrows. The dragon finally dies, and I absorb its soul. The remaining townspeople crowd around the bones of the dragon, talking amongst themselves "what is that?" "the rumors are true, dragons have returned!" etc.

I've never had moments like this in any game before, let alone any TES game.

Oblivion was, and still is beautiful, but I didn't care for the way the story was implemented. There was no sense of "urgency" or "doom" that should have accompanied a full-on daedric invasion. The oblivion gate mechanic was neat at first, but got boring really quick.

Morrowind was a lot of fun, but the combat was really wonky, and the game ended up being way too easy after your character was past a certain level. The best part of Morrowind was the exploration and the lore.

Daggerfall had a lot of character customization, but the game got repetitive really quick, for me at least. A lot of the dungeons and towns just ended up looking the same after a while.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:16 pm

  • Skyrim
  • Oblivion
  • Daggerfall
  • Arena
  • Morrowind

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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:08 pm

Skyrim
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:09 pm

1. Skyrim
2. Daggerfall
3. Oblivion - Morrowind
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