So now that we experienced Skyrim what's your favorite Elder

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:45 pm

Skyrim, the only other TES game i played was Oblivion, but they have improved so much compared too that game.
User avatar
Tamika Jett
 
Posts: 3301
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:44 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:53 am

I heavily modded Oblivion but still love Skyrim the most. There are some things I would definitely fix about it but it's a truly addicting great game. Morrowind I spent about 10 minutes in.
User avatar
Sabrina garzotto
 
Posts: 3384
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:58 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:10 am

I've played them all, but I'm not just another nostalgia struck fan-boy for Morrowind like the other old-schoolers. The game had tons of problems, and I'm glad that most of them are gone. Skyrim eats all of the rest of the TES games.
User avatar
Amy Melissa
 
Posts: 3390
Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:35 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:44 pm

Morrowind. I like having multiple locations for each faction (several mage guild locations etc) and many quests within each location usually involving most of the people.

In Skyrim each faction pretty much has one location (the stormcloaks/imperials have outposts but you only take quests from solitude/windhelm predominantly) and only 8 -10 quests before you become guild leader. Also the Main quest in Skyrim forces you into the college (you actually join it as a mage, not as dragonborn, no matter your method for joining) and forces you to talk to the thieves guild guy (putting it in your quest log permanently) which I find unacceptable.

I still really like Skyrim but it really feels like Oblivion 2. Morrowind is better.

/opinion
User avatar
naomi
 
Posts: 3400
Joined: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:58 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:28 pm

I've played them all, but I'm not just another nostalgia struck fan-boy for Morrowind like the other old-schoolers. The game had tons of problems, and I'm glad that most of them are gone. Skyrim eats all of the rest of the TES games.


Nostalgia? No. I did a full play through of Oblivion & Morrowind in preparation of Skyrim. 96 Hrs into Skyrim and Morrowind by far is still my favorite game.
User avatar
Darrell Fawcett
 
Posts: 3336
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 12:16 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:13 pm

Morrowind. I dislike Skyrim's lack of depth and uniqueness, shallow plot and characters, overly simplified mechanics, lack of meaningful choices and rpg content.

Most of this I do not get... What meaningful choices are presented to you in Morrowind? What "deep" characters? How can a character be "deep" and "unique" when it has no voice or actions, it just stands there spewing text? How can a plot be deep when it is essentially just the "common person given powers who rises and defeats an ancient evil" that we see everday?

Seriously, I like Morrowind but you guys overhype it waaaaaay too much.
User avatar
Katie Pollard
 
Posts: 3460
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:23 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:46 pm

1) Skyrim
2) Oblivion
3) Morrowind
4) Daggerfall/Arena (basically the same game anyways)
User avatar
Maeva
 
Posts: 3349
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:27 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:48 pm

Fallout : New Vegas is my favorite Tess. I think I was just meant to play the one that comes after the first one where it is more fun so the next one.


I see...
User avatar
Glu Glu
 
Posts: 3352
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:39 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:43 am

Daggerfall

I spent more time playing that than all other TES games combined. I dislike the forced guild quests in Skyrim, but otherwise it's a great game.
User avatar
Marnesia Steele
 
Posts: 3398
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:11 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:31 pm

Most of this I do not get... What meaningful choices are presented to you in Morrowind? What "deep" characters? How can a character be "deep" and "unique" when it has no voice or actions, it just stands there spewing text? How can a plot be deep when it is essentially just the "common person given powers who rises and defeats an ancient evil" that we see everday?

Seriously, I like Morrowind but you guys overhype Morrowind waaaaaay too much.

I am not understanding how you are associating text as being incapable as being "deep" or "unique", no books can be deep or unique? I see it as a detriment that they forced the entire game of skyrim into voice acting. It seems to have limited the content by a large amount since they have to pay voice actors. You also get less content anyway because reading something is faster than listening to someone talk. In morrowind they didn't hesitate to give you paragraphs of lore and interesting topics but in skyrim they try to make everything short and sweet which is rather bothersome since it makes the game more hack/slash since all you do is skip convos and run to your next bandit raid imo.

Also you get clone characters that say the same thing everywhere. In morrowind many characters had topics only they had and you could hear tidbits of their lives. Much fewer in skyrim, though it is there.
User avatar
Luis Longoria
 
Posts: 3323
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:21 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:27 pm

Was it necessary for Morrowind to have a big red hand icon over items that were going to count as stolen? It's pretty much the same thing, but a much clearer indication.


Thank you. Morrowind had the same thing. It seems that a lot of people are just determined to find reasons to still like Morrowind better than Skyrim, regardless of whether its better or not. And the dude who said that Morrowind had more content that Skyrim makes me want to laugh. Skyrim has ten times more quests and content than Morrowind did, and that doesn't even include the random events.

Believe me, I had a ball playing Morrowind, but I"m not so blind to use such over-exaggerated words when describing it like, "Masterpiece" or "perfection". Give me a break. Its called nostalgia. Learn the meaning of the word. Its when you over-mystify a past experience to the point where you can only remember the positives, and not the negatives. This keeps you from liking anything new, or (gasp!) different.

Just FYI, when Morrowind came out, there were JUST AS MANY COMPLAINTS about the game's design decisions as there were for Oblivion and Skyrim. I was there. You know who complained the most? Daggerfall fans. Its always that way.
User avatar
Naughty not Nice
 
Posts: 3527
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:14 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:31 pm

Most of this I do not get... What meaningful choices are presented to you in Morrowind? What "deep" characters? How can a character be "deep" and "unique" when it has no voice or actions, it just stands there spewing text? How can a plot be deep when it is essentially just the "common person given powers who rises and defeats an ancient evil" that we see everday?

Seriously, I like Morrowind but you guys overhype it waaaaaay too much.

Clearly you don't like reading too much.
User avatar
SUck MYdIck
 
Posts: 3378
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:43 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:37 pm

Morrowind > Skyrim > Daggerfall > Oblivion.

I havent played Arena.
User avatar
carla
 
Posts: 3345
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:36 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:50 am

Clearly you don't like reading too much.


I read everything in Morrowind, and I still feel Skyrim has more depth.
User avatar
+++CAZZY
 
Posts: 3403
Joined: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:04 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:35 pm

1-Skyrim - builds on the others. Will need lots of DLC and mods
2-Morrowind - endless things to do. Characters stiff though.
3-Oblivion - Fantastic to look at and nice things to do. However empty in many places.
4-Daggerfall - My first. Loved it at the time but very tedious.
User avatar
Leah
 
Posts: 3358
Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:11 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:17 pm

I read everything in Morrowind, and I still feel Skyrim has more depth.


Sorry, then you just have not read everything in Morrowind.
Most of the depth Skyrim has is in its books anyway.
User avatar
Sammi Jones
 
Posts: 3407
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:59 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:55 pm

I am not understanding how you are associating text as being incapable as being "deep" or "unique", no books can be deep or unique? I see it as a detriment that they forced the entire game of skyrim into voice acting. It seems to have limited the content by a large amount since they have to pay voice actors. You also get less content anyway because reading something is faster than listening to someone talk. In morrowind they didn't hesitate to give you paragraphs of lore and interesting topics but in skyrim they try to make everything short and sweet which is rather bothersome since it makes the game more hack/slash since all you do is skip convos and run to your next bandit raid imo.

In regards to a person being "unique", a person is not supposed to be a book. Completely irrelevant.

There was no uniqueness in Morrowind's characters because whatever text option you chose there was still just the standard cookie-cutter reply. Think of it this way... Max Von Sydow saying a dialogue line vs. the dialogue line itself. Having it voiced can bring personality and "uniqueness" to the dialogue line which would otherwise be dull, bland, and lifeless.

Clearly you don't like reading too much.

No, I was fine with Morrowind's "text", but I still think having it voiced brings more "uniqueness" and personality to it.
User avatar
Josh Lozier
 
Posts: 3490
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:20 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:45 am

Skyrim is tied with Morrowind for me right now. I have WELL over 1000 hours with Morrowind, Skyrim a bit over 100. I know Morrowind like the back of my hand, but Im still finding new things constantly in Skyrim.
User avatar
Britta Gronkowski
 
Posts: 3475
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:14 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:08 am

For all of the things that I wish had not been done (removal of attributes + others), Skyrim, when taken as a whole,

is far and away the best TES game ever. For me it boils down to the AI and radiant story. They are a huge improvement on what came before. Whatever their imperfections, the game feels great to play, and IMHO NPC AI (next time I'll go for a whole sentence of acronyms) is the biggest single factor. The characters are just so much more believable.
User avatar
MatthewJontully
 
Posts: 3517
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:33 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:56 pm

Skyrim has ten times more quests and content than Morrowind did, and that doesn't even include the random events.

spoilers

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Mages_Guild
3-9 at each location, 5 main locations + general quests
40+members

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/College_of_Winterhold this is missing a few
8 total main quests
17 members including the augur, one ex member is in winterhold
User avatar
dell
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:58 am

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:47 am

Sorry, then you just have not read everything in Morrowind.
Most of the depth Skyrim has is in its books anyway.


Wrong, yes I have. I've completed every quest, heard every line, and read every book in Morrowind. Skyrim is deeper in every way.
User avatar
Amy Smith
 
Posts: 3339
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:04 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:37 am

In regards to a person being "unique", a person is not supposed to be a book. Completely irrelevant.

There was no uniqueness in Morrowind's characters because whatever text option you chose there was still just the standard cookie-cutter reply. Think of it this way... Max Von Sydow saying a dialogue line vs. the dialogue line itself. Having it voiced can bring personality and "uniqueness" to the dialogue line with would otherwise be dull, bland, and lifeless.

I wholeheartedly disagree.
User avatar
^~LIL B0NE5~^
 
Posts: 3449
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:38 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:03 pm

Daggerfall. Unparalleled freedom, few limitations on the character you can create, and an actually good main storyline (gasp!).


All that, plus tons of actual cities (More than one vendor? How can that be??!?) with more homes you can buy in each one than all of Skyrim combined! Whatever happened to cart travel, anyway!

Biggest downside, other than the glitches, is the Khajiit vampires. Have to be the ugliest characters, ever!
User avatar
Janine Rose
 
Posts: 3428
Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:59 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:10 pm

Wrong, yes I have. I've completed every quest, heard every line, and read every book in Morrowind. Skyrim is deeper in every way.


Then please tell me what is Skyrim's equivalent of the Sermons of Vivec?
The mysteries and riddles in there foretold Oblivion and Skyrim, among other things.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:36_Lessons_of_Vivec,_Sermon_29
User avatar
Multi Multi
 
Posts: 3382
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:07 pm

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:38 pm

In regards to a person being "unique", a person is not supposed to be a book. Completely irrelevant.

There was no uniqueness in Morrowind's characters because whatever text option you chose there was still just the standard cookie-cutter reply. Think of it this way... Max Von Sydow saying a dialogue line vs. the dialogue line itself. Having it voiced can bring personality and "uniqueness" to the dialogue line with would otherwise be dull, bland, and lifeless.

You may have read it that way but when reading a book or reading text in a game, you aren't supposed to read it in dictionary blandness. Just because it is text doesn't mean people have no character. Try talking to the dremora lord in the shrine quest (the one you have to attack, attacks you) again and just because there is only one option (taunt the daedra) doesn't mean you cant imagine your insults. Also you cannot tell me the dremora didn't have character.

In an ideal world all the text in morrowind would be voiced. But it wasn't. You should still be able to compare the content of what is read vs the content of what is voiced and compare them without comparing mediums.
User avatar
Add Meeh
 
Posts: 3326
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:09 am

PreviousNext

Return to V - Skyrim

cron