I've been having problems with creatures/NPC's suddenly spawning right next to me in the wasteland; usually after loading a save. There's been several times when I'm exploring/traveling where I'll load a save and all of the sudden there's a Super Mutant or a pack of raiders (among others) that suddenly spawn right next to me. Of course I only save when I'm pretty damn sure it's safe and there's no enemies in sight; but about 50% of the time I get random enemies that spawn with my save. I'm guessing it's a conflict with my mods (which I have a lot); but searching the www I didn't find anything that stuck out in my load order. It could also be a side effect of using a heavily modded game, I just don't know
Here's my load order:
[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
[X] StreetLights.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] DUIF3Extras.esp
[X] Expanded Megaton House V3.esp
[X] Feng Shui.esp
[X] Feng Shui - Keymap Template.esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp
[X] Fellout-Full.esp
[X] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
[X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp
[X] Fellout-Zeta.esp
[X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
[X] StreetLights - Wasteland.esp
[X] Burnification.esp
[X] DAV_nowads.esp
[X] Existence2.0.esp
[X] Moshman's Wasteland Ambiance.esp
[X] dD-Less Blood Time, Larger Blood.esp
[X] dD-Reduced Ragdoll Force.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] EVE.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - No Ghoul Raise.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp
[X] PB MMM HD.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp
[X] Centered 3P Cam.esp
[X] MrSlackPants-Explosions.esp
[X] reduced karma loss for Stealing.esp
[X] GeneratorSound.esp
[X] SniperZooming.esp
[X] Choose your own hairstyle (load this last on FOMM).esp
[X] Mark and recall.esp
[X] MergedPatch.esp

Thanks for any help!

No, it's perfectly normal. With many spawn points, another set of characters won't spawn in until you've entered a cell a second time. I see this all over the place in Fallout, it's the way the game was designed. You just have to be careful where you reload a saved game from.

I sometimes get the creature spawn right next to me issue. (sometimes right after loading a save and sometimes just randomly)


However i think the original poster may have a different problem. I remember reading that a earlier version of marts mutant mod was causing large spawn mobs right at the feet of the player after loading a save. It was something to do with the diverse spawn location feature of MMM. I think mart modified his script so the spawn issue was much less present.

So you may want to check what version of MMM you are running. If it is not the latest then i would upgrade.

I would also experiment with disabling MTC Wasteland Travellers to see if it has any impact on your issue.

This happens often with MMM. I've saved right after a fight with an low-level enemy or two then been killed moments later. When my save reloads, I'm suddenly in the middle of five very different and very much alive enemies.

Thanks for the info! I thought it might have been a "side-effect" of using mods that change spawn points. I'll check out the latest ver. of MMM and see if that helps.

edit: Just checked the MMM thread and it looks like I am using the latest ver.; so I guess I'll just have to pick my save spots better