ok i dont know what is causing it but any elves such as dark elves and high elves now dont have any voice, also they cower before me, (scared animation) when i talk to them, this is irritating because i cannot read the subtitles fast enough

Please, http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo.

Oblivion.esm
Ayleid Ruins V2.3SA Ceano+AXR.esm
Natural Interiors.esm
All Natural Base.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Natural Interiors - NE Compatibility.esp
Natural Interiors - Cities.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
All Natural - Natural Weather.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
personality_idles3b_nc.esp
Walk to Oblivion - OBSE.esp
Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp
Hemingweys NPC Capes.esp
tda_Armoury.esp
300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Let The People Drink Compatible Version - Arboretum.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Let The People Drink Compatible Version - Arena.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Green Emperor Way.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Market.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Prison.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Let The People Drink Compatible Version - Talos Plaza.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - The Arcane University.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - Waterfront.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
vendorchest-fix Shivering Isles.esp
RealisticForceLow.esp
Soolie'sBetterEnchantmentEffects.esp
MidasSpells.esp
CombatFPSOptimizer.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
AMD.esp
Hemingweys Capes.esp
MiniMap.esp
xivileus.esp
TJBDwarvenRuins.esp
Regard_HONDA_NR500.esp
OrcLightArmor.esp
banhammer.esp
Killtastic! Chance.esp
Clintmichs Beautiful Temple District.esp
OBForcePush.esp
inferno.esp
superspeedrings100.esp
BetterMagic.esp
DaCheataWeapoN.esp
Sword of lol.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp
V1ncUniqueICElvenGarden.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Brighter_Torches.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

this is my load order, i have tried rearanging it

Use BOSS to sort that mess out. You can find a link to the download and installation instructions here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep.

Remove:
Natural Interiors - NE Compatibility.esp <-- You are using AN, and this is not finished or optimized fully
Natural Interiors - Cities.esp <-- You are using AN, and this is not finished or optimized fully
Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp <-- You are using AN, and this is buggy
CombatFPSOptimizer.esp <-- This is made obsolete by http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/fpssmoothing, very outdated

ihave used boss and it didnt solve it, those files arent causing the voices to disappear since they were installed after i encountered my voice problem

It is still important to have a working load order. The recommendations in my previous post should help the overall stability of the game. I do not even recognize a third of the mods in that list, so unless someone else can pick out the culprit, I suggest deactivating mods until you find the problem.


These are the mods I do not recognize, by the way. Maybe you should start by disabling those.

MiniMap.esp
xivileus.esp
TJBDwarvenRuins.esp
Regard_HONDA_NR500.esp
OrcLightArmor.esp
banhammer.esp
Killtastic! Chance.esp
Clintmichs Beautiful Temple District.esp
OBForcePush.esp
inferno.esp
superspeedrings100.esp
BetterMagic.esp
DaCheataWeapoN.esp
Sword of lol.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp
V1ncUniqueICElvenGarden.esp


Edit: Try deactivating personality idles as well.

MiniMap.esp <--- recently found and will be deleting since it conflicts with oblivion xp system but its a minimap for the hud
xivileus.esp <---------- my own mod, completey different worldspace and doesnt modify dialogue
TJBDwarvenRuins.esp <------ resources for xivelius
Regard_HONDA_NR500.esp <---- lol stupid mod thtat adds super fast horses in the shape of bikes
OrcLightArmor.esp <-------another resource for xivelius
banhammer.esp <-----adds a godlike weapon that is floating in the ic market
Killtastic! Chance.esp <----- inserts a cinematic when firing an arrow
Clintmichs Beautiful Temple District.esp <-------- temple district addon, quite new and very beatiful mod
OBForcePush.esp <------------- just a spell
inferno.esp <---------- an experiment of mien to create dantes hell
superspeedrings100.esp <---------again another mod that adds a fun item
BetterMagic.esp <--------- overhauls the magic system to make it more powerful
DaCheataWeapoN.esp <------- another item
Sword of lol.esp <---------- and another
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp <------------- this is part of imperREAL city mod which allows you to see the districts inside the wall from anywhere in cyrodil
V1ncUniqueICElvenGarden.esp <---------- another beatification mod for the elven district

i will see if disabling the last mod you said about though it may be the source of my problem

If that turns out to be your problem (in order of decreasing recency):
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30829
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24999
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14280

Report unknown plugins in the BOSS thread with links to their upload pages if you want them added to the BOSS masterlist.

ok personality idles removed the cowering of people when i talk to the elves but i still have my no elf voices problem nad i did try disabling those other mods but it didnt help
i also failed to mention a hidden cosmetic mod that enhances the facial textures of all races, im currently trying to find the name of the mod

Improved Facial Textures or Natural Faces? Those should not be a problem. Do you have OBSE and any OBSE plugins installed? A random mod could be affecting the voices...I will check your load order over again.

Install the http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/unofficial-official-patches while you are doctoring this thing.


Edit: If you have OBSE, installing http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16622 should make the game bearable while you try to get their voices back.

ah yes its ift that i have, now looking at my obse plugins

None of the mods I recognize affect NPCs voices.

obse plugins:
oblivion stutter remover
change console key <------need this since i cannot access the console with the ? key

Those OBSE plugins are fine too...

hmm =( could it be OOO im currently having a problem with wolves being invisible with a purple floating head and no wolf sounds, i googled it and found it was an OOO problem and that i should reinstall OOO but that hasnt solved my invisible wolf problem,could my voiice problem relate?

I have I this problem too, but not all npcs or dialogues are affected, my install is pretty much a basic FCOM install, I'm leaning towards a wrye bash problem, since pre 283 did mess up AI packages, maybe they touch something that handles dialogues.

@xemnes: Are you using ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated! to make sure all resources are being loaded?

i have just instlled it and has made no difference

ok i just diabled OOO that didnt solve the problem either =(

You do not need to use ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated if you use OBMM. That utility simply does BSA redirection, and OBMM already supports that. There is no reason to toss an extra, unnecessary utility into the mix. Just make sure BSA redirection is selected in OBMM (Utilities>archive invalidation.) Yes, OOO might be your problem. What version are you using? If you are using full, download OOO 1.33 Complete and install OOO 1.34b5 on top of it.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/mmmooo/requireddownloads
http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/mmmooo/createomods
http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/downloadmods

i have full but not complete, currently downloading complete, do i need to unindtall the full version, if so how?

OOO comes in two flavors, FULL and LITE. "Complete" just refers to the complete 1.33 archive, as opposed to the 1.33 update uploads. You should uninstall the OOO setup you have now, since it is incomplete. Install 1.34b5 on top of 1.33 complete. You can find all of the necessary information in the links I posted.

the one i installed was a self extracting archive and didnt come with an uninstallation file

Yeah...do not use EXEs in the future. Stick with OBMM. I think, but I am not sure, that if you install OOO 1.33 complete on top of your current setup with OBMM and then deactivate it. That should clean it up for you. Reactivate the OOO 1.33 complete OMOD after installing. There are some things you should be aware of when installing OOO, so please reference the OOO section of this page: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/mmmooo/obmminstall. You can ignore the MMMforOOO warnings. The more pertinent information is about what the various options are and whatnot.

ok i have installed ooo and i cannot load up my saves, loading screen freezes and doesnt do anything, but i can start a new game, when i did i noticed this on the 2 elf reaces im having my voice problem with

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r375/xemnes1/ScreenShot71.jpg

Yeah, one of your mods changed your race information to a different language.

You'll need TES4Edit to determine which one, or disable each mod in turn till you find the culprit.