Nuclear Proliferation in the Fallout Universe

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:49 pm

1945: The United States sets of the world's first nuclear weapon, and thereby becomes the world's first "Nuclear Power".

1949: The Soviet Union explodes its own nuclear weapon, thereby becoming the world's second "Nuclear Power"

1950: Fearing the possibility of being a first strike target for Soviet aggression during a nuclear war, the Dominion of Canada explodes its own nuclear weapon, becoming a nuclear power.

1952: With a potential for war with the Soviet Union on the rise, the British Empire tests its own nuclear device, bringing the Britain into the nuclear age. In light of this new development, the British Empire offers a nuclear "shield" for all its interested commonwealths and dominions.

1955: The British Empire deploys forward nuclear weapons in the Union of South Africa, and the Dominion of the Indian Empire.

1960: France wishing to build its own nuclear deterrent independent of NATO, tests its first nuclear weapon.

1960: NATO and the Warsaw Pact deploy nuclear weapons in their spheres of influence.

1961: The British Empire withdraws its nuclear weapons from South Africa, after it proclaims itself as a Republic. During the withdrawal several nuclear weapons went unaccounted for, and though at the time the South African government vigorously denied possessing the weapons, in 1965 Prime Minister Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd admitted that South Africa possessed its own nuclear weapons, and tested their first bomb in 1970.

1963: Francisco Franco looks on as Spain tests its first nuclear weapon in Spanish Morocco.

1964: Feeling threatened by increased tensions with the Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the British Empire in India and the United States, the People's Republic of China tests their first nuclear weapon.

1970: Britain and France being to deploy forward nuclear weapons in their colonies.

1971: The British Empire forward deploy nuclear weapons in Australia. New Zealand is also offered a nuclear deterrent, but maintains a strong anti-nuclear stance.

1973: Following the return to power of Juan Per?n, Argentina tests its first nuclear weapon. Rumors of the construction of a nuclear device during his exile, were later confirmed by the Spanish government, who had leant technical assistance to the project.

1976: President Augusto Pinochet oversees the detonation of Chile's first atomic weapon. Rumors run rampant across the nation, that Chilean spies stole schematics from Argentina, though little comes of the rumors.

1979: Israel, feeling the pressure of being surrounded by hostile nations, and with the assistance of the British Empire, the Dominion of Canada, and the United States tests its first nuclear weapon.

1980: The Republic of South Africa, forces an end to the Rhodesian Bush War, by threatening to use nuclear weapons against the African's Rebels. Robert Mugabe, and other terrorists are brought to justice, by the Rhodesian Government. With the end of hostilities, the Rhodesian Air Force buys a small quantity of freefall nuclear weapons to use as a continued deterrent against Marxist terrorism. In 1985 Rhodesia tests its first nuclear weapon.

1982: Libya with the aid of the Soviet Union develops its own nuclear weapons. Shortly thereafter members of Sinn Fein and the IRA approach Muammar Gaddafi for technical assistance in their own nuclear ambitions.

1984: Following the assassination of Marget Thatcher, the government of the Republic of Ireland, officially announces that it has in its possession a nuclear deterrent *(supplied by Libya)*. Though much posturing occurs on both sides, a crisis is nearly averted through US mediation.

1985: Australia detonates its first atomic bomb. Up until that point, the Commonwealth of Australia was forced to rely on the British Empire for nuclear defense, but due budgetary strains on the "Imperial Nuclear Shield", and increased aggression from Communist China, Australia develops her own nuclear deterrent.

1989: With increased tensions between the USSR and NATO, and the fears of a Soviet Invasion West Germany tests its first atomic weapon

1990: In response to what was viewed as West German aggression, East Germany Tests its own atomic weapon.

1991: Nations of the Warsaw Pact and NATO establish their own nuclear deterrents.

1992: To maintain their neutrality in an extremely polarized and nuclear armed Europe, Sweden and Switzerland, develop their own defensive nuclear deterrents.

1995: Additional US nuclear weapons are deployed on Japanese and Korean (Republic of) soil.

1997: North Korea, with Soviet assistance tests its first nuclear weapon.

1999: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia tests its first nuclear weapon.

2000: Brazil tests its first nuclear weapon

2001: Venezuela, with Soviet assistance tests their first nuclear weapons.

2002: In response to Venezuelan aggression, the United States assists Colombia in testing its first nuclear device

2004: Ecuador tests its first nuclear device.

2006: Iran tests their first nuclear weapon.

2009: Peru Tests its first nuclear device

2010: The International Anti-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty is signed in Mexico City, thereby ending the nuclear ambitions of non-nuclear nations.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:47 pm

Did the fallout world have pure fusion weapons?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:46 am

The one problem with this is mentioning NATO, i dont think it would have existed, because america became isolationist. so europe made there own alliance. (european commonwealth),

Edit: well done you assainated thatcher :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:02 pm

Did the fallout world have pure fusion weapons?

There are weapons that run off fusion cells. Power Armour was the pioneering effort into this advancement. As for pure fusion? Not sure what you mean. The energy goes through a process and is converted into Plasma, for example, but doesn't fire 'fusion energy'.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:24 am

Pure fusion weapons don't require a fission first stage.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:54 am

why would they weaponise pure fusion, the only way to do that would be super colliders (a bit difficult to minituarise, but not impossible) and if fission-fussion bombs work fine then dont change it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:36 am

Impossible for us, but in the Fallout world they have comonplace portable fusion.

And pure fusion weapons are preferable mainly because they would be a lot lighter (higher yield for less mass is what you want from a nuclear weapon). Also, you wouldn't have to obtain and mess around with uranium to produce them.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:42 pm

The one problem with this is mentioning NATO, i dont think it would have existed, because america became isolationist. so europe made there own alliance. (european commonwealth),

Edit: well done you assainated thatcher :P


My understanding is that NATO did also exist in the Fallout timeline, though due to some unknown event, the alliance split up. Also, as far as the European Commonwealth goes, I believe that it is descended from the European Economic Community(and not in any way related to NATO).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:25 pm

The one problem with this is mentioning NATO, i dont think it would have existed, because america became isolationist. so europe made there own alliance. (european commonwealth),

Edit: well done you assainated thatcher :P

If only she really was dead.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 am

You know she would come back as a ghoul :(
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Tom
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:34 am

You know she would come back as a ghoul :(

She'd still look the same. But way to burst my bubble i was in a happy place imagining no iron lady.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:38 am

Is there a DaedraDec ?

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Amy Masters
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:11 pm

Is there a DaedraDec ?

:poke:

If the lore fits. :whisper:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:20 am

If thatcher was assainated in 1984 would that mean the north would still have a coal mines?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:06 pm

If thatcher was assainated in 1984 would that mean the north would still have a coal mines?


Also, Britain would still have a lot more of publicy owned utilities.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:02 pm

Probably a good thing.

France exports power, the US has blackouts*


*I'm not saying that in an ideal world a market in power generation can't work.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:36 pm

So for the Brits, or the Anglophiles out there, what would a Britain in the Fallout World, be like without old "Maggie"? Would that be a nation that would still be friendly with the USA?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:41 pm

So for the Brits, or the Anglophiles out there, what would a Britain in the Fallout World, be like without old "Maggie"? Would that be a nation that would still be friendly with the USA?

Honestly, I don't know. I take a fleeting interest in politics and its impact.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:18 am

Perhaps the death of Thatcher, would lead to a more liberal Britain, and perhaps because of that, British and American friendship waver, leading Britain to the forge the way for the "European Commonwealth".
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:26 pm

The rest of the developed world and the US really diverged from the 1980s on.

Europe (and the rest) became gradually more liberal (by both definitions, free market liberalism and social progressive 'liberalism').

Whereas the US became... I don't know?

You have social 'conservatism' in the US... but that manifests itself in (since the 80's) putting an ever higher % of it's population in prisons of various kinds (5-10x any other developed country... higher than any other country, period).

On the other you have the worlds largest pormography industry... which could be conisdered a manifestation of liberalism... but is it?

And economically you have a middle class who's incomes have actually declined since the 1970s.

By one anolyis what we've seen is the flowering of the 'military industiral complex' and exploitation in all it's forms.

So, oddly the 'conservative' america of the fallout world might be a less unpleasant place. It's stronger goverment might have been better able to hold other power bases in check.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:18 pm

On second thoughts maybe not. Bearing in mind the goverment of the fallout US became the enclave :nuts:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:29 pm

Perhaps the death of Thatcher, would lead to a more liberal Britain, and perhaps because of that, British and American friendship waver, leading Britain to the forge the way for the "European Commonwealth".

I imagine the European Commonwealth being similar to the European Union.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:18 pm

I imagine the European Commonwealth being similar to the European Union.


I just don't understand how any sort of EU styled body, could have come about in the Fallout Universe, since I don't believe the Cold War ever officially ended, leading to a more polarized and European Economic Community styled Europe.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:19 pm

I just don't understand how any sort of EU styled body, could have come about in the Fallout Universe, since I don't believe the Cold War ever officially ended, leading to a more polarized and European Economic Community styled Europe.

In Fallout's Cold War, I had the impression the USSR as the 'Enemy' seemed to be replaced by China.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:32 am

I just don't understand how any sort of EU styled body, could have come about in the Fallout Universe, since I don't believe the Cold War ever officially ended, leading to a more polarized and European Economic Community styled Europe.


probably with no help from america, so no NATO the europeans were forced to create their own alliance
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