First I'd stock up on food, antibiotics/medicine, bottled/jugged water, guns, amunition, flashlights, batteries, and a book or two. I'd find a suitable place to baracade. Wait out the radiation. Since I live in wisconsin I would try head as far north into Canada as I could

Well if I didn't die from the initial explosions, shockwaves and mass of radiation I'd probably get a lot of buckets and crap and put them on top of a big apartment building so that when it rains I have clean water.
If that doesn't work I'd figure out a way to get moist air to collect itself, like a very moist room, then when enough is collected it turns into water, would take a longer time but I'd be self reliant with water.
Then I'd make sure I have other supplies, train myself, scan the area and avoid anyone and everyone for the first couple of months.

When I'm ready I'll start to round up people and force them to work together or kill them.
Either they join up in rebuilding the lost society or they die, simple as that.

This is of course in a timespan of a year to several years.
The first part is what I'd do first and the second part takes place over a loooong time.

Now that I think about it, if I survived through a number of miracles, I would kill myself because that type of world is horrible.

i got the simplest solution although it might cost me a lot but ill use a credit card and by the time i have to pay back the banks will be destroyed.
step 1 acquire a bigass boat that could hold a lot of fuel,food,guns,etc
step 2 move/sail to the most southern tip of South America.
step 3 whenever you happen to hear news about several commie planes coming your way sail towards Antarctica.
step 4 by the times the world ends i have no plan, hopefully there will be an uncontaminated island. and i'll only bring people whom i can trust

Well i think i would try to survive as long as i can and if i know im gonna die im not gonna let it be slow. I'll put out a revolver and stick it under my chin and...you know the rest.

I'd go outside, and spend my last day doing whatever before the bombs dropped. I really don't want to be alive in the hell hole after the bombs drop.

I don't see why people think other survivors are going to just pick up arms and kill everything they see, so they feel they must outrageously arm themselves and barricade in a building. I highly doubt that.

Whatever the goverment istruct me to. Failing that help form a local goverment.
PostWW3 I would still believe in the State. Actually I would think it more important then ever.

Lol you really dont believe that do you??

Realistically, I'm toast. Downwind (by prevailing weather patterns) of a nearby Army depot with a large stockpile of '50s-era nerve gas rockets. Something, if not "somethings," coming on the wind will be the end of everything in its path. Assuming the guidance system on the nukes themselves doesn't save me the worry about whether it's the radiation or the nerve gas. :shrug:

Although come to think...maybe old as those rockets are they've mutated, and with a little radiation action added in I'll end up one of the first Super Mutants. Y'never know, right? :rofl:

You dont want to try my idea?? :cold: :cold:

Whats wrong with what he said? One of the worst things we could do in the event of a catastrophe (as a society and as indviduals) is just say "well screw you authority! THE MAN'S NOT GOING TO GET ME DOWN!" Contrary to what some people think, you should follow government instructions in the case of such an event, becuase guess what? They tend to know what they're talking about. They are not going to try to get you purposefully killed.

Guess what happens when people in a crisis don't follow authority and try to do their own thing?

1. Looting
2. Killing (or violence in general)
3. Panic
4. Chaos and a more difficult time of distributing supplies/medical aid
5. Longer crisis-recovery periods

The aftermath of a nuclear was is not the time to shrug off government instructions by looting a gunstore and making off with some ordinance. We would need all the order and mutual cooperation we could get.

Beings that I live only about 40 miles from two first-salvo priority targets (Offut AFB and STRATCOM in Omaha) I'd either die in the first hours of the exchange, or perish from radiation poisoning in the first few days of the aftermath.

If I somehow survived...I'm actually pretty confident in my ability to stay alive and maybe even prosper a bit. Sure, no more telecommunications would well and truly svck, but I know how to build and operate a crude HAM radio. I also have a very firm grasp on short and long term survival on scant resources (thank you Boy Scouts.) Weaponry, dried goods and other supplies are on hand or quickly available, and I know that I'd need to get the hell out of urban areas really dammed quick to escape the ensuing chaos.***

So, I'd snag my brother (family and all that, and he's got the combat/Army skills I don't) grab as much supply as we could, and make a break for wooded terrain. Hunker down for as long as we can and/or need to, while making occasional forays back to civilization (bombo, bombo, bombo) to gauge if it's save to come back or not.

Work readily and willingly with any and all official forces (Emergency crews, Police, National Guard, Military) as they arrive. If need be, I'd even help in re-establishing order (in such a crisis, I'd bet Official Authority would start building up militia volunteers to help out).

This is all hypothetical, of course. The first rule of survival is to keep a level and and pay attention. I like to believe I'm one of those that can do that, but I've hardly had my stress resistance, skills and endurance tested to much of any extreme.


***Out of morbid curiosity, I went and checked the "Oh **** Kit" we keep in the basemant. A first aid kit one could perform minor field surgery with, solid-state radio, about a months worth of MRE's and other such things. It was put together as a basic disaster kit when I was in the full grip of BE PREPARED. Wonder of wonders, we actually have Potassium Iodide tablets in there, along with a holy ****ton of water purification tablets. Bottled water being a staple here, that kit is pretty comprehensive.

I live in a democracy. We are the State, the State is us.
What govermental system do you live under?

Ok that was rather rude. And perhaps a bit simplyfied (?), But we do elect them, the parlament that is, so what is the point if we dont trust them?

I could vaporize, choke, suffer a long and painful death from radiation burns... Nuclear armageddon is versatile like that.
I don't think survival is a possibility.

Uh, I'd probably eat a bullet if I didn't die from radiation. Not sticking around to get munched on/watch my family get munched by roving gangs of cannibals. (And yeah, the movie "The Road" heavily influenced my answer. Realistic or not that's [censored] freaky.)

I live in The U.S.A and i would not really trust them. whats it gonna be worth even if they tell you where to go or what to do? People are gonna take that chance to rebel. If they die then whats the use of listening to there orders? When all the aftermath is done what is there left to listen to?

Whats it going to be worth? Its going to be worth the re-establishment of order and the lessening of the crisis's effect on people and the nation as a whole.

People are going to take that chance to rebel? Huh? Does that mean you should? Does that mean that you now have the right to disobey authority and do whatever you want? Just to reiterate what happens when that kind of thinking comes into play (from my previous post):






The govenment is not going to be gone when a nuclear war occurs. They have specially crafted protocols to ensure that the United States government continues through the aftermath (see Continuity of Government).

1. Yes and thats the question is if it will succeeded now isnt it?
2. I wont take the chance to rebel. I would put the revolver under the chin and...lol. Anyone could rebel its just the question of how many will? When will they? and what will they do?
3. Of course its not gonna be gone. But how are they gonna talk to the people of America? when theres radiation outside there front door?

1. So you're assuming it won't and you won't even try? Thats not a good attitude to take.
2. And those people would be doing the wrong thing, and be making the crisis worse. Just becuase there are people rebelling and disregarding instructions doesn't mean authority should be now disregarded, it means you should rally around the government all the more.
3. Some communication would presumably still be available, government bunkers are designed with a Press room in order to get the word out. The question of whether they could get commands out is not the issue really, its whether you would listen to what they are telling you to do (assuming they were in contact/communication)

1. would i try to help the cause or try to stop the rebellion? No i wouldnt do anything. I would let other people sort it out. No need for me to get involved and get killed for something like that.
2. who knows maybe there doing the right thing. Yes you should rebel against authority but thats not gonna stop the people that dont like the government. It could be into the millions.
3. Yes but lets say there is not communication left. The Lines are down and everything. The government would be useless and the citizens would be in mass chaos and would probably try to survive at any means possible...which may result to killing...

I'd be long gone. Living in range of the US' capitol I don't think my years on a burned Earth would be well lived, if at all.

1. Not saying you should try to stop looters, but I am saying if the government or a contingency of the government tells you to go somewhere or do something, you should do it.
2.What? No, looting and killing is not the right thing, Disobeying the law is not the "right thing".



hmm...no, the aftermath of a nuclear war is not the time to "be a rebel".



I bet those people who "don't like the government" are going to change their minds when they find they have no source of medical care or supplies.

I honestly don't really understand what you are trying to argue here, if there are many people looting and generally disobeying civic laws, that doesn't mean you shouldn't follow government instructions, because the government is going to be the only group capable of restoring order in that kind of situation.



Ok if your argument here is that you shouldn't follow the government because communications are down and you can't get instructions, then by all means, you're on your own if you can't get in contact (doesn't give you the right to engage in acts of criminal activity though).

Thats not what the original point was, you said "Lol you don't really believe that do you?" when somebody said that they would follow government instructions. My point is, IF you have communication with the government, and IF they are giving out instructions, THEN you should follow those instructions.

If and end game" solution came to pass. I would most certainly not listen to the government.

sure, they have contingencies..
but those contingencies are suited to preserve the governent and not the nations people.
I am thnking more along the lines of immediate survival for my loved ones and myself.
Iw ill not be herded into an area that is bound to have mass chaos and have my fate sealed by growing fears of a frenzied mob and a governemnt that might just use any means necessary to keep an uprising from occouring.

Seclusion with vital supplies and those that i can trust and that trust me.
thats my reaction.

food for thought.
if the US government allowed for nuclear weapons to destroy US cities- doesnt that count as a failure of their most essential role?

They are designed to maintain some sense of order, what kind of contingency plan can be designed to save the people? Public shelters and pre-war infomation, the best way to attempt to ensure anykind of structure is to have the government survive. The government will not "herd" you into cities, cities will be radioactive and eventually hives of disease from decaying bodies. Who do you think will maintain the government's order, just regular soldiers who have survived, people like you. There isn't some die-hard, totalitarian, post-nuclear police force just waiting in statis to come out and oppress you into mining camps for after a war.



It is not possible to intercept a nuclear war head with any ground based missile system, the window of opertuinty is less than a minute once they re-enter the Earth's atmosphere over your country and the warhead is ejected, released whatever; that's why the Stars Wars programme was finished I assume. Have they failed by allowing a war to happen? Perhaps, depends entirely on the circumstances, rouge military leaders, accidents, failure of communication or build up of international tensions.

i am not thinking along the lines of being oppressed outright in the least. I cant imagine at the notice of nukes being launecd, a state of martial law wouldnt be enected, thoguh., where people would essentially be hearded up for instruction, evacuation or whatever..
Its not hat i think it will be highly organized either. I am a veteran, so i definately realize that soldiers are just people and would behave as such and would try to save them and thiers.
at the same ttime, i dont think that excludes the possibility of pockets of military personell attempting to hold martial law and dictate where people should go. Its also not that i distrust whatever semblance of government would be left left.. people are just stupid in large panicked numbers- Its just not something i am subscribing to either way.



I was speaking more about the latter, failure of prevention could come in many forms.
Its not as if citizens themselves are what is under attack.. the intent of nuclear war would be to stop a government or change the game.. through decimation of it's citizens, to be sure. but it think its priparily the government that that the opposing side would be directing hostility towards.