In parts of America its considered illegal to stand naked in your own damn house if people can see through your windows. So yea we have problems here.

this topic remindes me of that south park episode good times with weapons i think its called

I don't want nudity because nudity means I won't get Skyrim. Seriously, if you want naked people running around, there will be mods for it in like the first week.

I think we can pretty well call this topic with this:

1) Bethesda will do what they did in Morrowind - they will have painted on undies. They won't do do nvde models because idiot conservatives will slap the AO (otherwise known as the kiss of death) rating on the game, and the game would flop.
2) Modders will port, or red, fully nvde models that are better in nearly every way compared the originals, and we will all pick our favorites and move on - well, the PC players will. Console users will be stuck with painted on undies.
3) People will pose these third-party models in absurd, possibly pormographic ways, making Bethesda realize the wisdom of their choice.

4) Americans are hypocrits.

Woah, woah, woah .... America rocks! In our own ... unique ... way. Hahaha.

"Naked people running around"

huh. i don't see that suggested anywhere in this topic. God of War has nudity and a six mini-game and isn't rated AO. same with GTA IV: The Lost and Damned. it had full frontal nudity but it still wasn't rated AO. And Fable 2 and 3 had nvde statues but they neither of them were rated AO. That would mean that you cant get Mature games either and I don't think it is getting a rating lower than M.

LLLLOOOOOLLLLLL....

I said I couldn't get games with nudity in it. And so I don't have any of the games you pointed out. So your point kinda fails. :shrug: Sorry.

And, by nudity, I assume that people meant people ... naked ... somewhere in the game. Maybe not "running around", but somewhere.

Please don't misunderstand, I wasn't mocking you.

Oh here we go. I had to put it under Star Wars because Xfire didnt support Amnesia at the time. Here we go.

http://www.xfire.com/profile/damuncha/screenshots/swtfu2/

But of course the picture of the man with the [censored] has mysteriously vanished.

Enh, we live in a very prudent society. Not like we would be making a family on here. The Sims 3 only got a teen rating, but you get it on and there is plenty of nudity, it just uses a mosaic.
One rating up and they can remove the mosaic, and obviously, the game is going to be M rated already.

I don't really care, in real life I would of course say something like make love not war but in Skyrim I couldn't care less if there was nudity or not.

Ah... Sims... those were good days. having kids, killing my wife, killing the police when they come to take my children away... wait it was rated T? huh.

Yep, it was rather fun on Sims 3... turning to god mode, catching people on fire, creating a nice deep walled in hole and leaving the unwanted there... But ya, it was rated T.

Just so you know, there was nothing under that mosiac.. theres no genetalia in that game so theres not even a reason to put the mosiac there in the first place.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xlwgzn.png
duke nukem got an M rating.... somehow

Or, maybe even if they could do nvde models, they still wouldn't because they have no reason to want to put nvde models into their game. You are acting like nudity should be a default in every game ever made. I honestly don't know why you guys want nudity so very very much. It's just so... creepy. It's like when people want urinating and defecation in the game. Why on earth would you ever want that? So very very creepy.

hah thats crazy. reminds me of a funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXME2pm83c i saw a while ago...

*everybody gets in pool*

"where did the ladder go?!"

*drowns*

-shrugs- its just implied nudity. No difference in the rating if there was detail there, as long as the mosaic couldn't be removed without the use of mods. six was also implied, though all you saw was shaking covers. It snuck its way into god of war with detail, and to keep it from being A rated, all they had to do was pan the camera away when the deed was being done.

Wow! I just wanted to thank everyone before the poll closes a page from now and I miss the opportunity to do so. I posted for serious thought to be given to an issue made more serious than it should be. My best case scenario was a few replies (some snippy and unpleasant) and a posible though likely unmerited shut down by the mods. My thanks for making this a really constructive thread, with some really well thought comments, and a heap of votes. Cheers! May your Elder Scrolls character one day run free in a world where running free, by which I mean Au Natural, is an option. Lol.

Also, nice to see so many logical minds.

I do have to say though, when speaking of how indoctrinated we are to strange and upside down thinking. . . has anyone noticed that of the people who took the poll, the most overwhelming majority of all is the group of people who think that nudity would be more inappropriate than scenes of torture and graphic violence. . . . . . .. . . . . WTF?????????????? :ahhh:

I take that last part back :celebration: It was the case earlier in the voting, but now it is no longer so. Faith restored, at least somewhat. :bowdown: :angel:

In response to you and the poster you were responding to, some games with nudity are Teen rated. Dead or Alive 3 comes to mind. Just a ratings related observation.

maybe you should continue with a new thread while you can still post the link to it. I'm personally interested in hearing the opinion of a larger group.

A rated M title is not a game for all age ranges, and any parent that gives one to a child is being negligent or they must know about it and be fine with it. :shrug:

Is it any different for a parent giving an M rated game title, and giving access to rated R movies, or Explicit music? 'Cause it shouldn't be, they rate those things for a reason.
Nudity and language (and anything else) should be in art/games/film/music/ and any other media, if for no other reason than the artist/designer wants it there.... Freedom of expression; and it should be rated appropriately if they wish to sell it in certain markets.

*More importantly... Those ratings should be heeded by consumers, and they should have no recourse but refund, if they willingly disregard the label; Anything else is an opening for folks to sue companies for their own personal mistakes... Like suing a chemical company because they bought a 'Grass & Weedkiller' formula and used it all over their yard ~instead of their driveway.

) "Bethesda will do what they did in Morrowind - they will have painted on undies. They won't do do nvde models because idiot conservatives will slap the AO (otherwise known as the kiss of death) rating on the game, and the game would flop."

Idiots? I am a conservative teen, and I do not consider myself a idiot. Maybe you should look at the facts? Germany, which is in Europe, is MUCH worse at censoring video games.