outlast(game)...that is all

I can think of some things that is mature, but doesn't belong in the game just because they are mature. Gotta draw the line somewhere, and take what fits the game, and discard what doesn't.

Really? Then post them. Right now. Because I doubt you do.

Only males play video games, and no self-respecting male could survive seeing another man's wang (digital or not) with his unquestioned sixuality intact. Therefore, only female nudity is acceptable in video games. Duh.

Well the first page or so was talking about six scenes so....

I dont really think it would make a difference. nvde or not you can get an idea of how the raiders are by looking at the heads atop polls, people strung up etc.

I can't really see where nudity would add anything to the game other than people wanting to actually see six scenes.

Metro: Last light has a first person six scene, but it is part of the story, which i don't mind.

Nudity for the sake of nudity though, i do not like.

Although i do have a genuine issue with man-parts, like, the sight of them makes me physically ill.

But the animations look even more weird if the man has glued-on underwear, like in Dragon Age Origins.

...Then again, they do tend to involve two women most of the time, for some reason


That's not the whole truth. There's also us who aren't getting any

I guess I look at these games differently than some, if not most. I don't see them as a video game as much as I view them as an entertainment avenue not unlike a novel or movie. I'm an old man and when people find out I play, they don't see an elderly gentleman sitting there reading and listening to dialogue of an advancing storyline. They see a little kid, belly down in front of the TV.

That is the very reason I utterly oppose any notion that censorship should be implemented for the sake of being a gaming genre.

How many of the same that say, no because it's a game, will sit down tonight, if not within the hr, and watch a violent film or raunchy college coed feature?

My gaming experiences should not differ from any of the other outlets at my disposal.

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Keep it constructive and on topic.

Nudity is fine if it's done right, has the right tone and isn't there just to be there. In a post apocalyptic setting it absolutely can work and would have to include all body types and not be in every scene of course but in the right circumstances would be realistic. But unfortunately here in the States a lot of people are very prudish because we were founded by Puritans lol. But that aside Nudity for the sake of Nudity doesn't belong. They do it in movies, TV ads hell even Jewelry ads here in the States. If it makes sense story wise and is realistic then by all means.

Do you mean Jericho? That was a good series, great fun. Too bad it got cancelled. You can watch it on Netflix though I think, worth a watch for everyone who enjoys post-apocalyptic fiction.

On topic: It doesn't bother me much either way to be honest but it would be good in an appropriate setting. Kind of like how GTA V and Far Cry 4 did it. Nudity is a part of life, especially around areas like Gomorrah in FNV. I can't really think of a similar area in FO4 though, maybe I just haven't seen it yet.

Nope, I mean Jeremiah It was originally on Showtime. I've heard about Jericho, I just never watched it.


That's the key, and that's how it was used in Jeremiah. It's appropriate in certain places. I can imagine it happening in a Raider stronghold, for example. It's really just a matter of how mature/advlt of an approach Bethesda are taking to a realistic post-apocalyptic setting.

I have nothing against nudity; in fact I like it. However, not once in this game have I said to myself, "wow this scene would have been so much more complete if only that person was nekked." Gratuitous nudity is a little juvenile. Is there a reason to be nvde in the wasteland? I imagine not. Wouldn't want to get any radiation or other filth up in my bits. Consequently, I find it perfectly normal that people keep their clothes on.

Should the PC be able to wander around totally nvde? When role playing an escaped mental patient, of course. I would be ok with that, but only if they included unique dialogue from NPCs making note of your condition and that hardly seems worth the effort.

Nudity is done comically bad in nearly every video game ..and usually never adds anything of merit....mods will add all the nudity you can imagine tho...cheers

Of course, nudity for sake of having nudity would be a terrible implementation. Cringe worthy even.

Nudity In Fallout fits well in a city like New Reno that is rife with slavery, prostitution, drugs, and corruption. Nudity fits well in the clubs at New Vegas and possibly at raider camps, especially given how twisted many of the raider gangs are.

But my argument extends beyond just nudity - Fallout 4 lacks the darker and morally grey aspects that made the previous Fallout titles believable within that world's lore.

Fallout 4 is a tame and dull setting when compared with previous titles, even Fallout 3. No slavery and prostitution are the two aspects you first notice but it goes beyond that too.

I would almost argue Beth went with a more "politicaly correct" atmosphere to avoid any disturbance.

It's a Bethesda game, no they have no need to do it yourself when modders will do the job for them, which ends up a win-win for everyone. By Azura, does the lack of nudity in the vanilla game really rustle people's jimmies, or is it just an excuse to complain about the moral worldview of others?

Except the latter is a long-standing staple of the series. True, sixuality has also been around the Fallout games since the early days, but as far as I know, it's graphical depiction has not.

Yes. Don't even try to tell me the wasteland would be devoid of strippers or the world's oldest profession.

^ Sick and tired of all this censorship bullcrap that has been going on for years. If mommies and daddies don't want their precious 10 year old playing the damn game then don't buy it.

I can be online at 3am on a school night playing M-rated video games and run into just as many 8-12 year olds as I do advlts. What's worse is their language is worse than anything you find in these games.

A game made for and rated for advlts should not need to censor its content, period.

Also, I find it laughable how little corruption there is in the towns. "Good Neighbor" was supposed to be a rough town full of crime and scum, yet all I see is a ghoul leader who uses Jet and some guards dressed as 40s styled mafia goons.....

The towns and cities in Fallout 1 and 2 were great. Seriously, check out NCR, New Reno, or my personal favorite, Vault City. That was an interesting take on slavery in Vault City.

The Witcher 3 came under some heavy heat from those silly groups over certain aspects in the game, yet CDPR did NOT cave in, but responded with a "Get over it" type response.

I want more of that.

Aww, awesome. Wangs of the Wasteland next.

I agree completely.

Lemme preface by saying that on their (CDPR) forums I saw a lot of bad things like insulting customers from their moderators and developers. I also thought the way they handled the graphics and some other things was pretty shady; however, they also showed a lot of things I'd like to see more of in developers.

On the CDPR forums I saw developers actively engaging their fanbase. I saw CDPR taking advice, listening to suggestions and complaints, etc. They also didn't cave into a lot of pressures like you stated. The same can be said about Obsidian when they were developing New Vegas as well.

My absolute favorite developer is Hideo Kojima and I have always respected him. I wish we could have more developers like CPDR, Obsidian and Kojima. I saw at one point during an interview with Kojima where he actually admitted that some of the edgier content (torturing and what not) might lose him sales, but he didn't want to compromise his message or quality.

Well, it's a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Slavery, prostitution, [censored], etc.. should all be fairly commonplace.

As for the people voting "No", well, there's just as much reason to have nudity as there is gratuitous gore. I find it very odd that being able to blow someone's head apart is perfectly acceptable, but seeing a naturally naked body is not.

To be fair, in most of the Commonwealth, if you don't pick up a rifle or a shovel and actually do something useful, you go hungry. Making someone "feel good" is secondary to tending crops or guarding against raiders, ghouls, and super mutants.

Except Fallout has had gratuitous gore from the start, it's a longstanding staple of the series, unlike graphic nudity.

Obviously you're not going to be a prosttute if you're living out in the wastes somewhere. Diamond City and Goodneighbor provide protection against all the enemies you listed and selling yourself to the people who farm and guard would work out fairly well in those two areas.