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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:34 am

Actually that is exactly what they've done. Instead of shoving slavery right in your face they merely hint at it until a certain sidequest where you partake. I've heard some people say they have heard hints of prostitution as well but I cant confirm.

As someone who played Fallout 3 and New Vegas, nothing in those games was as dark as Vault 75 in FO4. If you don't think the game is dark I suggest you go there and you'll change your mind very quick.

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Mistress trades Melissa
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:32 am

I can use nudity in my games, I like it but don't always use it given the options.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:04 am

1000 things to worry about or change..

...And nudity somehow even makes it on the list?

There are games for that sort of thing. I'm glad the programmers didn't bother wasting a single hour on such nonsense.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:04 am

I don't care much either way but it seems so strange that the game is very...prudish(?) when it comes to nudity and sixuality. Nobody even kisses or anything like that but then it's so extremely violent that you see people constantly getting their limbs and heads hacked off, blood spraying everywhere, people exploding into a bloody paste with eyeballs, etc...like it's nothing.

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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:20 pm

65% yes.. xD

i said no, for this reason:

i dont care if there's nudity or not, but i dont feel that this should be considered high on the priority list when developing the game

this is something i feel should be handled by the mod community, however i do disagree if they put restrictions on it tho

people should be able to mod their game however they want, and Bethesda shouldn't be responsible for opinions on mods like that

and i pretty much feel the same way about six; straight, gay, bi, whatever....this should be something the mod community does and not part of the main game

Bethesda is not the government, they should not have to steer away from their whole purpose to appease minority impulses xD

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:24 am

I fell in love with the Fallout series because it was "dark", and "advlt" in nature...when SO many other games are just blah.

I hear Fallout 5 will have Nerf Weapons, Milk will be the only "drug", and Barney the Dinosaur will be your only companion.

Way to go Beth! :snoring:

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:43 am

Say what? It was really cheesy and corny. Don't understand the obsession with Witcher 3 altogether to be honest.

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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuL6cJPz3Nk

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:43 am

As much as I'd like to say otherwise, I really don't think more intimate themes fit easily within the Fallout setting. Sure, they can crop up now and again to provide a contrast to the black comedy of the rest of the setting (the intro to Fallout 4 would have been a perfect opportunity for exactly that, "I don't want my character to have had a happy heterosixual past!" crowd be damned), but overall I think they'd be a bit jarring.

Personally I thought Fallout 3 went way overboard (or, rather, way this-is-so-over-the-top-that-it-doesn't-make-any-damn-sense) with the gore. OK, raiders are bad people. I get that. But "bad people" still have to put up with the smell of living in a house strewn with dismembered corpses. Cooking dinner? Corpse-stink. Pinching a loaf? Corpse-stink. Watching Saturday morning cartoons in your whitey-tighties? Corpse-stink. Eventually even the most blown-out junkie is going to get sick of it and move elsewhere. And maybe - just maybe - not decorate their next house like a set from a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_1000_Corpses.

Point is: "Mature" content needs to make sense in context. If intimacy makes sense, then it should be included. If violence does, same. In my opinion, the context of Fallout lends itself a lot more readily to violence than it does intimacy. Nudity can be used to good effect for either of those reasons, but again, it needs to make sense in context.

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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:04 pm

so humans being intimate with each other, in a post-apocalyptic world where they only have each other against the raiders and monsters, doesn't make sense? if the game lends itself to more violence, then what's the point of a city like diamond city then? everything else had gone to whack, why don't the inhabitants attack each other as well?

i still don't understand how some nudity is worse than over the top violence

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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:41 pm

This very much, however 99% of those asking for nudity are thinking of hot wominz with glistening perfect beach bodies. The mods are proof of that.

Since the argument for these people is "realism", then in a Post-Apocalyptic world you would see bodies more akin to those laying in a hospital. Scars, deformities, wrinkles, mutations, all sorts of imperfections that would not make you have a boner at all watching them. THAT would be the norm for nudity in games like Fallout.

That's why using the Witcher is wuch a weak argument. First we have Geralt who is a six animal himself, and second all the nudity you see comes from young pretty women with perfect bodies. I get it, that's the Witcher fantasy but it doesn't apply to Fallout.

Want to use "realistic" and "gritty" argument for nudity? Better prepare to see some really ugly stuff then.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:28 am

Before nudity really makes sense, I would want the game engine to be updated so that character profiles are b-spline rather than polygons. People should have rounded profiles, not pointy edges.
And to make *that* work, you would have to drastically alter the rendering pipeline and possibly the storage format of the art assets. (I think you need to push the rendering of that geometry into the pixel shaders, leaving the vertex shaders to just render a "frame" which holds the character's image.)
And that kind of radical change? It comes with a fair amount of technological debt and business risk (though possibly also with improved visuals or improved rendering performance or similar payouts). So I would not expect to see it any time soon. This use of shaders might also reduce their availability to produce other kinds of effects (which, of course, would be used by some people to complain about how incompetent the designers are), and possibly also limit the use of low-end hardware.
For example... if the engine rendered characters like I described you could mostly rely on depth mapping to deal with overlapping models (like weapons), but the actual "frame" that you would be looking "through" (to hold those depth mapped pixels) would probably need to be nearer to the "camera" than the character itself. And that might introduce problems when the character is really close to the camera (like you sometimes get in kill-cam shots).
And, of course, if you also are adding nudity, I expect that you would have to put up with an audience which contains people who hate whatever you do (but you always get that, anyways).
Besides, nudity is one of the first thing the modding community adds, so it's not like anyone is really missing out. Well, other than the clunkiness of how that looks in or current low-poly environment. And maybe some nudity-related character development?
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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:57 pm

This. This is a game for advlts, not 12-year old boys.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:17 am

I dunno, they put romances in the game. To me it would make sense for those people at least to be intimate with each other, but nope. They don't kiss even, hold hands, put a comforting hand on a shoulder, nothing. I think they just don't have the ability to animate to character models interacting with each other precisely (rather than like hitting someone with a bat) but it makes the romances seem awkward. You know, the only time I can remember a character model touching another character model at all outside of combat is people holding baby Shaun. O_o

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:57 am

I dont play the game to look at babes....the interwebs already have more than I need.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:05 am


I think you're right. This was the most awkward animation ever, I'll describe it in as spoiler-free way as I can:

Spoiler
The doctor touching Nick's head in the Memory Den.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:32 am

As much as I hate to admit it the lack of physical interaction between characters is more of an animation vs control problem then anything.

If you want our characters to be able to kiss, hug, or touch another NPC character, you have to be willing to loose control of your character's movements for an animation sequence to occur. This is difficult when you consider your asking for a player driven character to interface with an NPC AI. Having two 'NPC's animate together is fine, because they will both behave, and the animation can be done as a single cycle, rather then trying to put two animation cycles next to each other, and hope they match up.

I wouldn't mind giving up a small bit of control for the moment to initiate one of these animations. It would be like putting the pip-boy on, or getting out of the vault for the first time, or falling out of the cryo pod. Brief, we had no control over it, but it helped enhance the story and feel of our character.

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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:21 pm


Where does it show users ages? This is a mature rated game. I'm a father of two and seen my fair share of naked flesh in my life. Yet not once have I seen people tortured, exploded in to a million pieces of gore from a single. 45 round. The fact is the naked body is nothing to be ashamed of or stop people looking at it. Gore and violence should be what we shy away from.
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Post » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:34 pm

Before Bethesda implements nudity, I′d rather see them implement a handshake or a hug first.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:34 am

There is a reason kisses and six-scenes are handled as cinematics in most games, because they're cringe-worthy as hell if you don't depend on massive camera manipulation. Because isn't six-scenes the practical application of why some people are wanting nudity for right?

But heavy use of static cinematics just doesn't work in a Fallout game. It works in games like Dragon Age and Witcher because they were meant to be cinematic experiences at their core. Fallout and other BGS are all about the freedom they give you.

Now imagine a six-scene without all the clever camera angles, and you'll be so turned off by what is essentially two dolls emotionlessly bumping each other. Go download any of the myriad of nvde mods for Skyrim or FO if you want proof.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:23 am

If its a game for grown ups I can't see the harm

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:57 am


We already have six in fallout 4 but it's that hidden you would not even know. He'll the six in the mobile app is better than the main game! six and nudity are not the same thing. Ask a nudist if you want proof. I think people want kids running around their settlement. Pregnant settlers to protect. Boosts for achieving a relationship. That sort of thing when it comes to six.

Nudity can be used to create better clothing choices, strip bars and brothels that you expect to see in a collapse of the world. Yes unsupported mods can be made on the PC but will not be allowed on consoles.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:40 am

No I wasn't, and she quoted me. I specifically stated that is not what I wanted.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:33 am

Well then, I wasn't referring to you. I was quoting that person more to make a point. If you want the REAL post-apocalyptic nudity, instead of the one that only makes you get a boner, then congratulations! But you are still a minority. B)

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:56 am

Why does this question get asked on the forums of every rpg that doesn't contain nudity? Really, I don't see that nudity would increase my enjoyment of the game and they chose not to include it anyway, so that's why I vote no.
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