simply which do you predict to run crysis 2 better something like the 560 ti or the 6950 and why

6950 raqes 560 -.-
no such thing as ati anymore
and crytek+nvidia are bff

ati is better and more cheap than nvidia

ati is better and more cheap than nvidia

Other than the $ are you willing to prove the other with some recent Benchmarks ?

I have two GTX580's by MSI, let me know when your ready or anybody for that matter.

Pick your choice, 3DMark06, Vantage or Mark 11

6950 raqes 560 -.-
no such thing as ati anymore
and crytek+nvidia are bff
enough so that nvidia cards will do much better than ati (technically amd now i know)

6950 raqes 560 -.-
no such thing as ati anymore
and crytek+nvidia are bff
enough so that nvidia cards will do much better than ati (technically amd now i know)

The real question is whether AMD bought them to learn how to make chips that don't catch fire, or should we expect all Radeon cards to need liquid cooling soon?

Crysis 1 performed better with Nvidia cards so, Crysis 2 might too

im not a fanboy i've owned a geforce 7400 (first time i got into PC gaming), a HD 4850, a GTX 275 i got for $150 from my uncle, a 5770 and soon i'll get a 560ti

If you ask me to choose form nvidia or ATI then i would say both, Nvidia cards are more expensive than Ati's, but their quality is better, Ati's are cheaper and faster, but i've got some drivers issues in the past, Nvidia's Drivers are excellent

i would recommend the 560ti or the 6950, the 6950 is a little bit faster, but again, if Cryengine 3 runs better on Nvidia, then get the 560, another factor is Tesselation, If Crysis 2 supports it and makes it good, not just a big framedrop for little detail, then I believe that you will be better with the 560 since Fermi works amazing with tesselation

How long do you think it will be before we know? the release date the demo date? a lil longer?

NVIDIA has AMD beat out by a long shot with the latest generation.

GTX 580 > Uncontested
GTX 570 > Radeon HD 6970

Yeah when the GTX 580 doesn't even have competition and their cut down GTX 570 beats out AMD's flagship card, you know whats better. ^-^

Well, talon, it's not about pure performance, it's about price/performance

No way in hell should any sane person buy a gtx580 when 2 gtx560's stomp all over it.

Anyways, this generation i am erring towards nvidia. But both companies are pretty much on par.

I ordered a gtx 560 ti from amazon yesterday mainly for Crysis 2
Should be a good upgrade from this old gts 250 I'm using right now

My opinion:
nvidia 400 series < ati 5000 series (only gtx 460 was good)
nvidia 500 series > amd 6000 series

6950 raqes 560 -.-
no such thing as ati anymore
and crytek+nvidia are bff

You got you're info mixed up.

The 560 ti is one hell of a performance card, it sits performance wise with the 6980 actually.

Benchmarks show that the 500 series take the over all lead over the 6000 series.

Personally, i dont care which brand i use, as long as i am happy with a product.

With that said, there are applications where ati is better than nvidia, and vice versa.

Do you're homework, check the stats, buy what you feel happy with.....it is YOU'RE money you are spending, who cares if someone else says this brand is better than another, just because one user is happy doesn't mean that you will be happy as well.

It's a matter of opinion. I used to play with nvidia but then I found that ati was cheaper and did better on benchmarks so I decided to buy the XFX Radeon HD 5970 which I belive is still the fastest graphics card on the market.

It's a matter of opinion. I used to play with nvidia but then I found that ati was cheaper and did better on benchmarks so I decided to buy the XFX Radeon HD 5970 which I belive is still the fastest graphics card on the market.

naah, GTX 580 is the fastest:)

It's a matter of opinion. I used to play with nvidia but then I found that ati was cheaper and did better on benchmarks so I decided to buy the XFX Radeon HD 5970 which I belive is still the fastest graphics card on the market.

naah, GTX 580 is the fastest:)
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/14/geforce_gtx_580_vs_radeon_hd_5970_2gb_performance/ As you can see the 5970 still seems to hold the place as the fastest graphics card. Maybe you ment the fastest single gpu card? Both cards are great whatsoever

Ive used GPUs from both companies over the years and ive had little problems with either.

Ive used GPUs from both companies over the years and ive had little problems with either.

This used to be the case for me until my xps m1330 had that defective nvidia card that broke every 2-3 months. Now i just steer clear of their products.

Depends on your Resolution, and other things!
On smaller nvidia is better the higher you go the better AMD gets. Also the massive use of Shaders is suitable for AMD with there 4D shaders.
Crysis 1 and warhead are some of the games that really utilize them.
But if we talk DX11 you will tend to use nvidia they perform better at Tessellation.
Then there is 3D here rocks nvidia.
Then there is the possibility of Multimonitorsystems. Here its even. In my case cuz with AMD you can go with 3 Monitors and 1 CArd, while with nvidia you need 2 Cards in SLI cuz they only got 2 outputs per card. Further i think the nvidia surround scales better with the vids while AMD Eyefinity seems to cut here, but ingame is fine.
Then there is Multicards(SLI Crossfire), here nvidia is better in form of less noticeable micro bucking in fps. But the new HD6xxx series of AMD scales better up to an unbelievable 215% oO. though HD5XXX isnt as good as nvidia.
If you go for price/power i would go for a 2 x HD6950 Crossfire nearly the same as 1 GTX580 in price but 30% more gfx-power.

But as rumors say the gtx590 may be presented in two weeks also the HD6990 is still to come.

Nevertheless i think i depends on so much more: what your actual system is (not many boards feature both sli and crossfire), how many Monitors you got, do you want to play 3D - what type of( for me Anaglyph dosent work while Polarisationfilters as in Cinemas work, 3D Vision too)
And what resolution you want to play.

Last time I checked AMD had the fastest production card out there, but that was several months ago. Personally I like ATi/AMD better, ever since I made the switch I never looked back at Nvid.

Oh and then there is physx....

Imho, both graphics vendors manufacture awesome GPU's. NVIDIA has better supported Stereoscopic 3D from what i hear others say about it, it just works out of the box. Some games run better/faster on nvidia and vice versa, depending on the actual game there is not a lot in it where framerate counts, sometimes the opposite is found and the framerate can be marginally faster for GeForce or Radeon.

I remember when Ageia Physx first came out and sold those over priced pci cards, then people found out you didnt need the card for the software. sad..

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-review/11

570 gtx sli (its wut i have)

4 frames behind 580 gtx sli in warhead. for about 60% of the cost.

I'm thinking to get 2 GTX 460 1GB.

Thats the system they tested on, and so far as I know it will be able to run everything on the highest settings with 1920 X 1200 res (+- 50 fps). While you do not spend any "this is the latest generation" money. You just pay what it's should cost while it has the same possibilities as the 5 series. (not as fast, but fast enouf).

Then again. I'm waiting for the demo to see benchmarks before I make my final decision.

I'm thinking to get 2 GTX 460 1GB.

Thats the system they tested on, and so far as I know it will be able to run everything on the highest settings with 1920 X 1200 res (+- 50 fps). While you do not spend any "this is the latest generation" money. You just pay what it's should cost while it has the same possibilities as the 5 series. (not as fast, but fast enouf).

Then again. I'm waiting for the demo to see benchmarks before I make my final decision.

1 570 gtx is almost as good as sli 460... 460s win by a hair. plus its future proof, it gives you the option to put in another 570 down the road. one 570 gtx would run crysis fine id imagine.