Oblivion Crash for at at random, mostly in combat : IV

» Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:56 am

ho everyone,

i have ben installing a new oblivion,, modding it With Fcom and alot of other stuff.

i installed FCOM using the Torturial movies, and added alot of stuff myself afterwards.

i have allways ben using BOSS and rebuilding my bashed patch everytime i add a new mod.

now oblivion is crashing at random,, but mostly when in combat, but allso just when i am running in the wilds.
i allso have this strange effekt that the landscape and trees seams to "pop in" not too far from me,,, i cannot figure out hot to make oblivion "draw" the land more precise at longer range.

would you guys please loo at my load order "taken from BAIN".
Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

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All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5] [CRC: C850522C]B4  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 4.9.8] [CRC: CC324F46]B5  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1] [CRC: 489B15CF]++  BetterExplosions.esp [CRC: 9FBD2539]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV] [CRC: 4887705A]B6  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp [CRC: B8B3BF6E]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82]B7  Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.esp [CRC: 638B7878]B8  NAVM GREETING fix.esp [CRC: F647B089]++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: 78C403D1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8565EC88]B9  The Well of Lost Souls.esp [CRC: 8D05999E]BA  MidasCloth.esp [CRC: A9920131]BB  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 65CBA05F]

i have allso alot of texture mods intalled like the full QTP3 and all the vibrant textures.

my rig is a
2600 3.4 gig processor.
2x 580 GTX with 1.5 gig ram.
16 gig ram

every advice would be apriciate,, ben modding this game for 14 days now,, and i am pretty sad i cannot play more then 10 mins without crashes,

cheers
Canadus

» Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:39 am

Are you running Oblivion Stutter Remover? If not, get it, and make sure heap replacement is enabled.
Also, I don't usually recommend running Streamline and OSR together (it doesn't hurt anything if set up right), but based on this:

now oblivion is crashing at random,, but mostly when in combat, but allso just when i am running in the wilds.

it would definitely be worth trying. Get Streamline, but turn off the streamsmooth feature in the ini, let OSR handle the framerates.
Good luck.

» Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:43 am

HI there

yes i am running OSR but heap replacement was not enabled,, just enabled it.. hope it works.
installing streamline now, thanks for your advice apriciate it

any more ideas ??? is my load order Fubar or something ?

cheers
Canadus

Are you running Oblivion Stutter Remover? If not, get it, and make sure heap replacement is enabled.
Also, I don't usually recommend running Streamline and OSR together (it doesn't hurt anything if set up right), but based on this:

it would definitely be worth trying. Get Streamline, but turn off the streamsmooth feature in the ini, let OSR handle the framerates.
Good luck.

» Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:48 am

Oh, actually, now that I look:
1B Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 0B58010B]
1C Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 6B332824]
You shouldn't be running these with All Natural, they're already included in All Natural, and running more than one weather mod can seriously mess up your game.
Other than that, it looks like you've run BOSS on your list? Go through the report and look closely at the notes, it's really good at flagging things like this.

» Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:22 am

HI again

thaks you,, i have removed those mods,, i just thought they would make the weather look better,,, didnt think it was a weater mod itself.. my mistake.

enabling heap replacement is OSR seams to have helped some,, and removing autosave seams to have helped even more,

i had to remove Deadly combat V6, bcos i think this was what made oblivion crash when i was in combat,, "not sure though".

thanks soo much so far for your help...

soo my load order is Tip top now or ??

cheers
Canadus

Oh, actually, now that I look:
1B Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 0B58010B]
1C Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 6B332824]
You shouldn't be running these with All Natural, they're already included in All Natural, and running more than one weather mod can seriously mess up your game.
Other than that, it looks like you've run BOSS on your list? Go through the report and look closely at the notes, it's really good at flagging things like this.

» Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:48 pm

** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82]

Would recommend Duke Patrick Combat Archery...

++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: 78C403D1]

don't forget to remove this one...