Oblivion crashes at startup load! Again! : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:13 am

Alright so my Oblivion install went for a nosedive again. I reinstalled, fcom works. Then I installed some texture replacers, weather mods and a water mod.

Now it crashes at first load. Again.

Ugh.

Once again, my load order:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]0A  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0B  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0D  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp11  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]14  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]15  Streamline 3.1.esp16  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]17  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1]18  DLCHorseArmor.esp19  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1A  DLCOrrery.esp1B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1C  DLCVileLair.esp1D  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1E  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1F  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]20  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]21  Thieves Arsenal.esp++  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp22  DLCThievesDen.esp23  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]24  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]25  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]26  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp27  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]28  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]2A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]2B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]2C  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]2D  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]2E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]30  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]36  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]37  Scribe Supplies.esp38  thievery.esp39  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]3A  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp3B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp3C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3D  DLCFrostcrag.esp3E  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp3F  Knights.esp40  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]41  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]42  Blood&Mud.esp43  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]44  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp47  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]48  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]49  xulTheHeath.esp4A  XulEntiusGorge.esp4B  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4C  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]4D  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4E  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]4F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]50  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]51  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]52  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]53  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]54  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]55  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]56  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]57  xulPantherRiver.esp58  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]59  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]5A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]5B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]5C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]60  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp61  bartholm.esp62  bartholm - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]63  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]64  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]65  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]66  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]67  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]68  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]69  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.5]6A  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]6B  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5]6C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]6D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]6E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]6F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.9.1]70  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]71  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]72  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]++  Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp  [Version 4.9.5]73  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]74  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

While I'm here, I should mention that I disabled the mods I DID install before it all went for a crap. Those mods were AN, Nautral Enviroments, Enhanced Water and Immersive Interiors. Still no joy. Also, I switched from DarnUI to Darnified DarkUI and the loading screens look all corrupt.

So maybe we can fix that too while we are here!

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:35 am

Alright so my Oblivion install went for a nosedive again. I reinstalled, fcom works. Then I installed some texture replacers, weather mods and a water mod.

Now it crashes at first load. Again.

While I'm here, I should mention that I disabled the mods I DID install before it all went for a crap. Those mods were AN, Nautral Enviroments, Enhanced Water and Immersive Interiors. Still no joy. Also, I switched from DarnUI to Darnified DarkUI and the loading screens look all corrupt.

So maybe we can fix that too while we are here!

Hi,..have you edited the INI for Oblivion? The one in your "MY Documents" folder?
For DarkDarnUI you need to edit in the New Fonts. Try generating a new INI and then Edit the Fonts. See if that helps.
The game will generate a new INI if you rename your existing one. I just Change .INI to .BAC

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:58 pm

Install DarkDarnUI in the end through OBMM. Well, almost at the end. Some mods like Morrowind lockpicking/Enhanced Economy etc. need to be installed over to replace DarkDarn's menus.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:16 am

Hah, well DarkUI is the least of my problems right now but once everything is well, working, I will try those!

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:22 pm

Hah, well DarkUI is the least of my problems right now but once everything is well, working, I will try those!

There were direct questions in the first post for a reason...as you say you have a corrupt UI (User Interface). Guessing you don't need the interface to Load a Save..

* OK..You said you re installed FCOM..at what point in the Install of all those Mods did it refuse to Load?

The only way I can have FCOM+++ (228 mods loading) Is because I installed ONE mod at a time, Loaded game, played and then saved. My install took over 6 months to build. And has been rock solid for 2 years. Gaming sessions last from 3 - 8 hours straight.

Just tryin to help. without the edits for DARN in my INI I crash straight away also.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:10 pm

Hah, well DarkUI is the least of my problems right now but once everything is well, working, I will try those!

I remember a corrupt UI installation leading to a crash on the loading screen. So that may be your source of troubles...

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:14 am

I remember a corrupt UI installation leading to a crash on the loading screen. So that may be your source of troubles...

Hm...I'll give it a shot.

There were direct questions in the first post for a reason...as you say you have a corrupt UI (User Interface). Guessing you don't need the interface to Load a Save..

* OK..You said you re installed FCOM..at what point in the Install of all those Mods did it refuse to Load?

The only way I can have FCOM+++ (228 mods loading) Is because I installed ONE mod at a time, Loaded game, played and then saved. My install took over 6 months to build. And has been rock solid for 2 years. Gaming sessions last from 3 - 8 hours straight.

Just tryin to help. without the edits for DARN in my INI I crash straight away also.

Sorry! I meant no offense! I'm just tired of dealing with Oblivion installs. Thanks for the help.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:47 am

Hm...I'll give it a shot.

Sorry! I meant no offense! I'm just tired of dealing with Oblivion installs. Thanks for the help.

No prob....

65 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]<<< Update to Version 3.0.1 Some crash issue with the 3.0.0 version
63 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]<<

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:24 am

Hm. Reinstalling Darnified DarkUI didn't fix it. It looks like it's something else.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:58 am

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1179736-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/page__view__findpost__p__17526082

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:23 pm

Yeah, regenerating the INI didn't fix it.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:53 am

Have you tried rebuilding your bashed patch?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:21 pm

Yeah. Didn't work. Maybe I should just reinstall again.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:41 am

I used to constantly have this problem on my reinstalls by the time I'd installed a general number of mods - usually about 30. It drove me up the wall. I finally figured out that a combination of BOSS ordering and rebuilding my bashed patch after every single new mod fixed the problem. Sounds kind of simple, but I'd never needed it for my game to work before so I hadn't really done it. If you've done both these things, though, I'm not sure what to suggest.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 am

Yeah. Didn't work. Maybe I should just reinstall again.

Do you use BOSS? If not download that and run it and see if it helps.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:32 am

Yeah, I bash after every mod and run BOSS. I just have bad luck

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:51 am

Have you checked the option for auto-ghosting in Wrye Bash? If not, turn it on. When the # of esp+esm+bsa files exceeds 400, crashes occur.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:57 am

Yeah, Auto-Ghost is turned on. Still crashing. I tested it out with just a FCOM install. It worked. After that I installed Bartholm, EE, RAEVWD, BBC, B&M, Welkynd Sword, Thieves Arsenal, Theivery In The Imperial City, Vaults Of Cyrodil, Clocks Of Cyrodil and some FCOM BSA's to improve performance (after deleteing the meshes and textures from the first install). It was at this point it stopped working.

Bash shows no problems, neither does TES4EDIT or anything like that.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:23 pm

Bump.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:45 am

Bump.

Your really not reading some replies (re post #10), are we?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:14 am

I did. This is a fresh install, with each mod installed not all at once and with testing periods. But it just keeps breaking down. If I disable the mods that I installed prior to the crashing, it still crashes. I'm bashing as much as possible and running BOSS as well.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:46 am

So the Oblivion master file fires up with no mods active?
In that instance if you add a couple at a time it shouldn't take long to isolate the problem mod.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:14 am

Yeah, it launches fine with oblivon vanilla and FCOM. It's something else that is causing the crashing but even disabling each mod that I installed after FCOM dosen't cure it.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:31 am

Yeah, it launches fine with oblivon vanilla and FCOM. It's something else that is causing the crashing but even disabling each mod that I installed after FCOM dosen't cure it.

So start with FCOM which you know appears crash free.
Add a couple at a time and play test those....

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:32 am

Ok, so I tested each mod one at a time and it worked fine.

It's when I use a bashed patch it screws up. Any ideas?